Another version of Libba-Knights

[bulldogs1]

As I've said, don't read everything you believe, but....

Quote from the Sunshine Advertiser's Sean Callender, who witnessed the L-K incident from the Great Southern Stand, reprinted in article in Sunday Age 22 April:

"As a lifelong Richmond supporter.....
and goes on,
'Tony Liberatore has perpetrated several acts and tactics on the football field for which he should be ashamed. Saturday's clash with Tiger Matthew Knights should not be one of them. I wholeheartedly agree with Libba's testimony that the contact with Knights' head came from his left arm, not the right as claimed by Richmond skipper Wayne Campbell. As Knights ran towards the pack, the players appeared to cross paths. They seemed to have eyes only for the ball, and only at the last moment did Libba seem to throw ihis arm to defend himself agaist the contact....I admire Campbell for standing in the tribunal and delivering an unwavering version of events. But Libba should feel aggrieved.'
Unquote.

 

[CJH]

And yet Western Bulldogs saw fit to apologise and withdraw their remarks about Campbell being a liar..

AND...

Did not receive an apology or retraction - and were happy with this - from Clinton Casey's comments that Libba king hit Knights and that he was a 'serial offender' and had 'split another players head open', etc, etc.

It turns out that the only bone of contention between the two clubs is Casey suggesting that the Western Bulldogs 'condone' this action, something (the only thing) that Casey retracted and apologised for.

The absence of any mention whatsoever to Libba from the official statement of both clubs tend's to suggest that they both believe that Libba did intentionally strike Knights.

Otherwise Libba would have strong grounds for a defamation case, or at least requesting an apology.

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[magpie_joffa]

For gods sake give it a rest 2 men have a tiff and all you pussies wanna do is argue about who is in the right an who is in the wrong.Havnt any of yous copped a smack in the face before well it sort of hurts but you dont spend the rest of your life worrying about it.

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good ole collingwood for ever,we know how to play the game,side by side we stick together to uphold the REAL magpies name,see the barrackers are shouting,as all barrackers should,YES the premiership's a cakewalk for the good ole collingwood.
'YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE'http://www.mp3.com/joffa

 

[CJH]

Originally posted by collingwood_joffa:
For gods sake give it a rest 2 men have a tiff and all you pussies wanna do is argue about who is in the right an who is in the wrong.Havnt any of yous copped a smack in the face before well it sort of hurts but you dont spend the rest of your life worrying about it.

True enough Joffa - but you better believe I will be in there sticking up for my club at every opportunity!

As no doubt you would do with Collingwood!



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I See Sunshine On a Cloudy Day The joys of knocking off Collingwood!
Long Range Support - Following the Tigers from interstate.

 

[bulldogs1]

It may be a strange time to bring it up after the dust seemingly having been settled, but you better believe that there are enough Doggies supporters out there who weren't entirely happy with the final outcome of all this.

Over a period of two or three weeks, I can't recall anyone from the media putting forth the media the thought that perhaps Libba was telling the truth.

(And yes, I can predict the retorts to the above statment)

All I am saying is that with only a handful of people saying they saw the incident, and most of those having affiliations with the Tigers, there should be some sort of balance. Most of the hysteria came from people who either didn't see it, or weren't there (and yes, I did see the blood).

I seem to remember the Tigers stating that they had received support from some with Bulldogs contacts. I would have thought by now that names would have been produced, like the mystery white board and video tape.

At least this (unbiased) source has a name.

Originally posted by collingwood_joffa:
For gods sake give it a rest 2 men have a tiff and all you pussies wanna do is argue about who is in the right an who is in the wrong.Havnt any of yous copped a smack in the face before well it sort of hurts but you dont spend the rest of your life worrying about it.

 

[Richmondfan#1]

Originally posted by CJH:
you better believe I will be in there sticking up for my club at every opportunity!

You are a great man CJH! I'll leave this post to you

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[CJH]

Originally posted by bulldogs1:
It may be a strange time to bring it up after the dust seemingly having been settled, but you better believe that there are enough Doggies supporters out there who weren't entirely happy with the final outcome of all this.

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Interesting you say this Bulldogs1!

After the tribunal and following media circus there were a lot of Tigers who weren't happy with the outcome at that point. Thought we were being painted in a light we didn’t deserve. Then out came our president with both guns blazing!

Now - after the dust has finally settled - I think I would have to agree with you – the Western Bulldogs have come out of this in far worse shape than the Tigers. This perception has only been compounded by the headlines in yesterday’s paper about the Bulldogs financial position.

You can't afford too much negative press, and that is all you have had for the past month!


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I See Sunshine On a Cloudy Day The joys of knocking off Collingwood!
Long Range Support - Following the Tigers from interstate.

 

[Ted's Robot]

When did the Bulldogs call Campbell a liar? Everyone heard him say on 3AW he didn't see it and then change his story. He didn't see it at all, he was embarrased by his on field performance and wanted pay back. Yes the Bulldogs did get the bad press. What's new? But Casey and Campbell came out looking like fools and liars. Even horror head Wilson with voice to match said Casey ended up looking like a fool on Talking tigers. At least Libba has a clear conscience, Campbell couldn't say the same.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

ted u are an A grade fool when u stick ya head out of the sand then comeback.if bulldogs didnt call campbell a liar then why would they have to apoligise u fool.
cheers!

 

[bulldogs1]

Repeat, when did anyone call Campbell a liar? I don't recall the words of the statement said anything about calling Campbell a liar. Perhaps painting him in a bad light. The Doggies statement reflects regret only that his credibility as a witness was affected. This remember, after the man himself admitted to lying. No bold type needed here.

As for the absence of a mention about Libba, then I cannot for the life of me see how you could conclude that as meaning that the Bulldogs thought he was a king-hit merchant. And if you're in the mood to mention priors, just remember who was convicted and suspended two years running for tripping. Don't tell Peter Foster that tripping isn't a serious offence.

The Doggies were obviously cutting their losses. I'm not happy about that, but to get any retraction from Casey was very satisfying after the tough talk about never going back on any of it.

The red herring about the Bulldogs financial situation - Jeez, think of something original. If its not that, its the class thing, or education or all the other stereotypes that are trotted out by people without a proper argument. What are you going to use next, the Premiership tally or the old "When was the last time...." God, do better than that.

To get back to the original post, the point of which seems to have been missed. Here is a version of events from a source friendly to the Tigers, and supporting Libba. Yet, again, we have had unsubstantiated hogwash from the Tigers re statements from 'ghosts' or people in changerooms, etc, all of which were not seriously questioned at the time, and still haven't been.

Originally posted by tiger of old:
ted u are an A grade fool when u stick ya head out of the sand then comeback.if bulldogs didnt call campbell a liar then why would they have to apoligise u fool.
cheers!

 

[HahnPremium8]

Originally posted by tiger of old:
ted u are an A grade fool when u stick ya head out of the sand then comeback.if bulldogs didnt call campbell a liar then why would they have to apoligise u fool.
cheers!

There is no need to call someone a fool merely because they have a different opinion than you.

Richmond supporters: you can't just ignore this quote from The Age. And i'm sick of BIASED Richmond ppl trying to take people's actions and saying this proves ___. Just because the Bulldogs didn't continue with the legal action it doesn't mean they don't still want an apology. And just because Libba didn't appeal it doesn't mean he's guilty of hitting Knights (not in self defence).

 

[Richmondfan#1]

My mum (yes i said my mum) brought up an interesting point. She said Campbell said he didn't say anything as it was only 'polite' to not mention anything unless he only really HAD to.

Go ahead and fire away ...

 

[Ted's Robot]

RichmondFan#1

Sorry to say your mum is wrong but Campbell didn't just say nothing, he actually said he didn't see the incident. He could have just said "no comment" if he didn't want to say anything until he HAD to.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

well hell his remarks reminded me of one but if i offened i apoligise

 

[Ted's Robot]

No offence taken Tiger Of Old. I really wasn't sure what you were going on about with the sand and the bucket and my head. I suppose you had to be there.