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I think using percentage as "the decider" in splitting the top two teams of each group is wrong. They only play 3 games and in all different circumstances and weather (which usually even's itself out over a whole year).
I know that scoring 30 goals to 20 is the same percentage as 3 goals to 2 but if you then look at what the club needs to do in the next week it goes amiss.
Example
say Port beat Essendon 30 goals (180) to 20(120) and Geelong beat Sydney 3 (18) goals to 2 (12). Both clubs would have a percentage of 150% (Geelong may have played in a cyclone for example). The next week if Geelong again plays in the wet and wins 4 goals to 2, then Port would need to win 40 goals to 20 to match them in percentage terms (175%). If Port's game was also in the wet in the second week that would be impossible, and even if they won 4 goals to 2 (like Geelong) then their percentage would be 154% compared to Geelong's 175%.
During the full season all teams play in the wet and the dry, but in the ansett cup it is too short for the percentages to be meaningful.
I propose a system like the last world cup cricket preliminary rounds. If I remember correctly, if 2 clubs were even on points then they look at the game played between those teams, and the winner of that game goes through. It is only when this gets circular (ie 3 teams each the same points where each have beaten each other once) where it might be a problem, and in that scenario percentage could be used to split the teams.
In essence if Geelong beat Port then I think they should go through regardless of the margin as the previous games have been played in entirely different conditions. It is also difficult to justify that Geelong is not the better side than Port if they play them and win.
my two cents....
ptw
I know that scoring 30 goals to 20 is the same percentage as 3 goals to 2 but if you then look at what the club needs to do in the next week it goes amiss.
Example
say Port beat Essendon 30 goals (180) to 20(120) and Geelong beat Sydney 3 (18) goals to 2 (12). Both clubs would have a percentage of 150% (Geelong may have played in a cyclone for example). The next week if Geelong again plays in the wet and wins 4 goals to 2, then Port would need to win 40 goals to 20 to match them in percentage terms (175%). If Port's game was also in the wet in the second week that would be impossible, and even if they won 4 goals to 2 (like Geelong) then their percentage would be 154% compared to Geelong's 175%.
During the full season all teams play in the wet and the dry, but in the ansett cup it is too short for the percentages to be meaningful.
I propose a system like the last world cup cricket preliminary rounds. If I remember correctly, if 2 clubs were even on points then they look at the game played between those teams, and the winner of that game goes through. It is only when this gets circular (ie 3 teams each the same points where each have beaten each other once) where it might be a problem, and in that scenario percentage could be used to split the teams.
In essence if Geelong beat Port then I think they should go through regardless of the margin as the previous games have been played in entirely different conditions. It is also difficult to justify that Geelong is not the better side than Port if they play them and win.
my two cents....
ptw

