Anthony Albanese - How long?

How long for Albo?


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JackOutback

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Watching Insiders this morning provided a little bit more info on staffing of for backbenchers.

Independents get at least one staff which was the norm until Turnbull gave Cathy McGowan 3, then Morrison gave Craig Kelly 4;).
Mark butler when in opposition had 2. Staffers weren't the same for everyone.

They are increasing resources in government library so they can do research there.

Not sure 4 is need maybe two? Across all backbenchers.

I don't have an issue with making it fairer.
Correct, crossbenchers had more staffers than government, which doesn’t seem right. Still not a great move politically, given he needs them, but a smaller cut would seem appropriate.
 

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Maggie5

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Correct, crossbenchers had more staffers than government, which doesn’t seem right. Still not a great move politically, given he needs them, but a smaller cut would seem appropriate.
Agree, also thank for typing 'crossbenchers' that is who I meant instead of my typing 'backbenchers'.

That is why I thought maybe 2, one for general office management and one other for research.
 

Gough

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If the cross benchers want to tell us they need the same sort of help Craig Kelly had then that's up to them.
 

Donakebab

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Watching Insiders this morning provided a little bit more info on staffing of for backbenchers.

Independents get at least one staff which was the norm until Turnbull gave Cathy McGowan 3, then Morrison gave Craig Kelly 4;).
Mark butler when in opposition had 2. Staffers weren't the same for everyone.

They are increasing resources in government library so they can do research there.

Not sure 4 is need maybe two? Across all backbenchers.

I don't have an issue with making it fairer.

I would be happy with crossbenchers who take on additional work, such as sitting on Parliamentary committee's or senate estimates, no issue with them getting an extra staffer, but they should not be getting more than members on the outer ministry or the shadow cabinet.

I should add it needs to be proper work, not like Hansen showing up late to a hearing, asking one useless question and then leaving.
 

Johnny Bananas

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Not sure 4 is need maybe two? Across all backbenchers.

I don't have an issue with making it fairer.
One of the findings of the Jenkins review was that the lack of staff had contributed to poor workplace culture and burnout in parliamentary offices. So I'm not sure drastic cuts would have good effects.

What people are also ignoring is that major parties have armies of staffers to carry out research into the potential consequences of legislation, but the smaller players don't have that luxury. They need full-time staff.
 

Chief

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We are not America, there’s no appetite for those kinds of laws here in Australia. No point telling America they are a shitshow for no good reason.
Oh there SOOOOO is. And if there isn't enough interest to drive voting, they will agitate until they whip up hysteria*. This is the objective of the conservative media.



Yes, I know :)
 

Home Alone

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Watching Insiders this morning provided a little bit more info on staffing of for backbenchers.

Independents get at least one staff which was the norm until Turnbull gave Cathy McGowan 3, then Morrison gave Craig Kelly 4;).
Mark butler when in opposition had 2. Staffers weren't the same for everyone.

They are increasing resources in government library so they can do research there.

Not sure 4 is need maybe two? Across all backbenchers.

I don't have an issue with making it fairer.
Lets see how it works out. While I am all in favour of a larger and diversified cross bench, I am not sure that multiple staffers reviewing the same legislation is the best use of resources. I realise that they are Independents and as such shouldn't be pooling the resources.
 

Maggie5

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Lets see how it works out. While I am all in favour of a larger and diversified cross bench, I am not sure that multiple staffers reviewing the same legislation is the best use of resources. I realise that they are Independents and as such shouldn't be pooling the resources.
On the other hand a Shadow Minister (Mark Butler) having 2 and someone like Craig Kelly 4 is not right either.
 

SBD Gonzalez

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Kidding, right?
We are not America, there’s no appetite for those kinds of laws here in Australia. No point telling America they are a shitshow for no good reason.
We are not America but there is no denying that anything big that happens there has a ripple effect here, and there is also no denying that plenty of hard-right wing Christians here are doing their darndest to make Australia more like their vision of America. And with some success, sadly.
 

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Gralin

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Why the feck does he need to comment on domestic US politics? Place is a shitshow and none our business.
Two reasons
If you actually uphold those values and stay silent on this your values aren't worth s**t
We need commitment that he would stand against it here too

We are not America, there’s no appetite for those kinds of laws here in Australia. No point telling America they are a shitshow for no good reason.
We only reached national decriminalisation of abortion last year when South Australia finally joined the party.

And that doesn't mean that people can access it, just that they might be able to
 

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If you actually uphold those values and stay silent on this your values aren't worth s**t
We need commitment that he would stand against it here too


We only reached national decriminalisation of abortion last year when South Australia finally joined the party.

And that doesn't mean that people can access it, just that they might be able to
Australians commenting on US politics have NO effect in the US.

Australians seeking to USE US politics for their own purposes are transparent.