Science/Environment Anti-vacc Crazies at it again. Post appropriate outrage ITT

[Clubs are trumps]

It might be news to you that there is a world wide shortage of IC Nurses. Guess why?

Mate i work at the hospital i mentioned in my post above. Im giving an insight into whats happening. I watched my ex struggle to get employment as a nurse after graduating here during the outbreak of the pandemic, simply because she was born in Nepal. If you're going to ask a condescending sarcastic question you can cram it.

 

[Frank Bunn]

No, just got over it - 2 weeks of horror.

Doctors showed us projections of previous years compared to this one, and this one looked like a blood sugar reading after a bag of fairy floss.

Did you have the vaccine?

 

[Nickos66]

Did you have the vaccine?

No - I got caught procrastinating as i've been so busy at work, only for my kids to bring it home to me.

 

[Frank Bunn]

No - I got caught procrastinating as i've been so busy at work, only for my kids to bring it home to me.

Have a look at the research around flu vaccine efficacy. it's not very effective and there's evidence that it has a negative effect.

There's too many simplistic arguments. Don't be pro-vacc or anti-vacc. Try to evaluate the evidence.

 

[quotemokc]

No - I got caught procrastinating as i've been so busy at work, only for my kids to bring it home to me.

Did your kids have the vaccine?

Have a look at the research around flu vaccine efficacy. it's not very effective and there's evidence that it has a negative effect.

There's too many simplistic arguments. Don't be pro-vacc or anti-vacc. Try to evaluate the evidence.

Its just, I have never had a flu vacc and my mum is a GP and never told me to get one.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Is this years flu season being over reported?

Never seen so much flu vacc propaganda

Had my shot. Haven't had the flu. Science wins again.

 

[Nickos66]

Something like 14 deaths in the last week due to the Flu in WA. 29 total for WA alone this year now. Compared to this time last year which was 4 deaths.

 

[Dry Rot]

Is this years flu season being over reported?

Never seen so much flu vacc propaganda

Well done. Not many pick up on this mass propaganda in the MSM.

Particularly bad in the Fairfax err Nine papers and the ABC.

Saw a corker last winter. Long and pretty good article about bird flu and what would happen if it completes its final mutations to be more human friendly. Painted a bleak picture which is fair enough and then suddenly there at the end was "Make sure you get your flu shot"

A seasonal flu vax is about as useful and relevant to bird flu as it is to ebola.

 

[Dry Rot]

Really interesting article from the SMH about the cultural problem in addressing antivax sentiment in northern NSW.

https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/he...xer-capital-of-australia-20190603-p51txe.html

Another view of the author of that piece

Big bosoms, big bums, no integrity | Australian Vaccination-risks Network Inc.

My experience with the media has, in general, been one of trying to convince an amoral pathological liar of the benefits of telling the truth – it’s deeply frustrating and incredibly horrifying at the same time. So when in mid-March this year, I was contacted by Timothy Elliott, a writer who was...

avn.org.au

EDIT: Interesting censorship - who gets to put the "FAKE NEWS" labels on things?

 

[CheapCharlie]

Another view of the author of that piece

Big bosoms, big bums, no integrity | Australian Vaccination-risks Network Inc.

My experience with the media has, in general, been one of trying to convince an amoral pathological liar of the benefits of telling the truth – it’s deeply frustrating and incredibly horrifying at the same time. So when in mid-March this year, I was contacted by Timothy Elliott, a writer who was...

avn.org.au

EDIT: Interesting censorship - who gets to put the "FAKE NEWS" labels on things?

Those people didn't come across well in that article.

Why would they expect or should they expect their opinions to be fully represented in a 1500 word article?

 

[Snake_Baker]

I am actually a staunch supporter of anti-vaxxers NOT getting vaccines.

 

[Rusty Brookes]

Let me guess... the Division of Cooper (formerly Batman)

Nope. Inner city areas with high socio-economic profiles tend to be the worst.

Suburbs with the worst anti-vaccination rates in Melbourne revealed

New data shows parents who live in this area are still shunning vaccines in alarming numbers.

www.kidspot.com.au

There was an issue in Brunswick which lead to an outbreak of measles - the rate was 91% at the time, now up to 97% on the latest info I can find.

Melbourne vaccination data: immunisation rates not improving in wealthy inner-city suburbs

Some inner-city areas have lower immunisation rates than they did five years ago.

www.theage.com.au

Victoria overall above the Australia average.

 

[Dry Rot]

Special showing of the excellent vax movie The Greater Good available until Tuesday afternoon

Special Screening of The Greater Good Movie

FREE STREAMING of THE GREATER GOOD – the vaccine movie big pharma and the CDC don’t want you to see. Have you heard about the latest trend plaguing the U.S.? It’s censorship. Censorship is now th…

greatergoodmovie.org

 

[demondavey]

Have had flu vaccinations all my life. Been in contact with people who have had it. Never once had the flu. Am also fit and healthy. Makes complete sense to get it done.

 

[demondavey]

unfortunately we don't have a vaccine for stupidity.

We do, it’s called a rifle

 

[demondavey]

Yep agreed, not vaccinating your kids is incredibly stupid. But you guys act as hysterical as the anti vacc lobby. Dismissing parents as stupid, crazy and looking for something to blame because they claim their child developed autism as a result of vaccinations is flippant and ignorant given the amount of cases that exist.

Well considering that my child might get a serious illness from an unvaccinated child, I think it’s well within my rights to accuse them of such.

 

[demondavey]

Great way to completely ignore potential beneficial and relevant findings. This attitude is disturbing. Robust debate, analysis and study must be taken on both sides of any issue to determine truth especially in science and medicine.

Robust debate? You’re kidding me. That’s just giving conspiracy theorists more of a voice. I’ve been vaccinated my whole life as have my kids and we have absolutely no underlying issues whatsoever. And no serious illnesses.

 

[demondavey]

Discussion of this topic is not about defeat at all.

But you’re not coming to the discussion with any relevant facts, you’re simply regurgitating the same content but in a different way.

 

[SwampCreature]

Jeez, returning to this thread 6 years later, a few posters in here I would not have picked as anti-vax, but there you go.

I can’t be stuffed reading but am morbidly curious at to who exactly they are?

 

[Frank Bunn]

Have had flu vaccinations all my life. Been in contact with people who have had it. Never once had the flu. Am also fit and healthy. Makes complete sense to get it done.

I've never had a flu vaccine. Never once had the flu. Am also fit and healthy. But we should not rely on anecdotal evidence. Have you looked into the research on flu vaccine efficacy?

 

[Snake_Baker]

 

[SwampCreature]

Alright, yeah, time to shut the thread down

 

[theyellowsash]

If only they had onion juice at the time of the Spanish flu

 

[kickazz]

Homeopathy is just witchcraft.

Burn them at the stake.

 

[kickazz]

"you're better off boosting their immune system and not giving them boosters"

wut?

 

[kickazz]

"it's about taking the strain off the NHS"

Well yeah, by ensuring we have less illness?