Anzac Day..

[Rohan_]

Is there any difference between Anzac Day and Easter Monday? Could someone please tell me what crowd Melbourne and Hawthorn attracted this year.

 

[jacqui9]

Originally posted by Rohan_
Is there any difference between Anzac Day and Easter Monday? Could someone please tell me what crowd Melbourne and Hawthorn attracted this year.

Geez i would hate to see what would happen if Collingwood won the Grand Final

 

[robbieando]

Rohan I would just like to point out that Esssendon are also part of the ANZAC Day game and are as popular as Collingwood. Collingwood don't make this game so successful, both clubs did. In any case Essendon pushed thiss game more early on and Collingwood only started pushing it like they now do when Eddie got into power.

Get over it Rohan it wasn't just Collingwood that made ANZAC Day, Essendon had a bigger part in it.

 

[rumply]

Originally posted by Rohan_
Is there any difference between Anzac Day and Easter Monday?

umm, ones on monday, the other may be on a monday

 

[Docker_Brat]

Get a new routine.

 

[Captain Random]

Originally posted by Rohan_
Is there any difference between Anzac Day and Easter Monday?

You're not a religious man, are you?

 

[Dan26]

Any public holiday swells the crowd, but I would presume Eatser Monday doesn't swell the attendance by as much as Anzac Day, because a lot of people go on their Easter holidays. Anzac day often falls in the middle of the week, where no one is on holiday.

I for one don't really care about the Anzac Day match. We could play Collingwood on Easter Monday every year and the crowd would be roughly the same. I like the draw to be mixed up a bit each year. Nothing annoys me more than the same clubs playing against each other in round 1 every year.

 

[Lockyer24]

Originally posted by robbieando
Rohan I would just like to point out that Esssendon are also part of the ANZAC Day game and are as popular as Collingwood. Collingwood don't make this game so successful, both clubs did. In any case Essendon pushed thiss game more early on and Collingwood only started pushing it like they now do when Eddie got into power.

Get over it Rohan it wasn't just Collingwood that made ANZAC Day, Essendon had a bigger part in it.

I dont think that is his point. He just stating that the day is unique becaude of the particular clubs involved, not just Collingwood.

 

[robbieando]

Lockyer24 I agree with you, ANZAC Day is special because of both teams and if say Hawthorn and St Kilda were playing on it I don't think it would be as big.

I was just saying to Rohan that its not just Collingwood who make ANZAC Day so good. I have no problem with both club having this fixture to themselves and I also think that the other clubs who want to get involved a kidding themselves if they think they could do as well.

With Sydney vs Melbourne playing on ANZAC Day next year, it will prove how wrong the other clubs are. It won't get that good a crowd

 

[Rohan_]

Now I remember a few Easter Monday crowds that were massive. In 1994 Collingwood got over 80k against Carlton.

In 1993 Collingwood also drew over 80k against Essendon.

But Mocca, I want to know how much Melbourne and Hawthorn drew this year.

Your contention that a football match played on a day by itself should draw more than any other game should hold true shouldn't it?

 

[Dan26]

Originally posted by Rohan_
Now I remember a few Easter Monday crowds that were massive. In 1994 Collingwood got over 80k against Carlton.

In 1993 Collingwood also drew over 80k against Essendon.

But Mocca, I want to know how much Melbourne and Hawthorn drew this year.

Your contention that a football match played on a day by itself should draw more than any other game should hold true shouldn't it?

Melbourne and Hawthorn drew 44,000.

For what it's worth Rohan, if Essendon played Collingwood on Easter Monday this year and Melbourne played Hawthorn on Anzac day (i.e we swapped them around) I don't think it would have made the season any less special.

If Essendon played Collingwood on the Queens birthday back in '95 and drew 95,000, there would have been calls to make that a tradition too (they could still play twice.)

I think big matches should be played on the public holidays, but whether it continues to be Ess v Coll...well frankly I don't care. The day has always meant much more to Collingwood anyway, because it has been their Grand Final.

 

[Rohan_]

Originally posted by Dan26




For what it's worth Rohan, if Essendon played Collingwood on Easter Monday this year and Melbourne played Hawthorn on Anzac day (i.e we swapped them around) I don't think it would have made the season any less special.

44k would make Anzac Day more attractive wouldn't it Dan? With a massive crowd of 44k it would be very unfair on other clubs because that's a financial windfall to Hawthorn.

 

[Dan26]

Originally posted by Rohan_


44k would make Anzac more attractive wouldn't it Dan?

But by the same token, 85,000 on Easter Monday instead of 44K would make that more attractive.

Your point?

 

[Rohan_]

Originally posted by Dan26


But by the same token, 85,000 on Easter Monday instead of 44K would make that more attractive.

Your point?

But Dan,

Collingwood and Essendon could only draw 85k on Anzac Day..

 

[Dan26]

Originally posted by Rohan_


But Dan,

Collingwood and Essendon could only draw 85k on Anzac Day..

And they are probably the only two clubs could who could get that crowd on Easter Monday consistently too.

 

[Rohan_]

Originally posted by Dan26


And they are probably the only two clubs could who could get that crowd on Easter Monday consistently too.

Dan...

Mocca says that only Collingwood and Essendon can draw 84k on Anzac Day Dan.

Please tell me how much these two clubs drew on Easter Monday 1993.

 

[Dan26]

Originally posted by Rohan_


Dan...

Mocca says that only Collingwood and Essendon can draw 84k on Anzac Day Dan.

Please tell me how much these two clubs drew on Easter Monday 1993.

87,638

Therefore I don't care when we play each other.

 

[Rohan_]

Originally posted by Dan26


87,638

So on averages Dan, Collingwood are depriving themselves of 3k spectators on Anzac Day?

You're quiet Mocca

 

[The Phat Side]

Collingwood draw crowds. Theyre part of many of the years blockbusters. I really dont see why there is any debate around this. Nor around the ANZAC day game being advantageous to Ess or Coll. Its because its them that its a crowd puller. By the same token crowd arguements of ours are bigger than yours a really boring. Who cares?

 

[Lockyer24]

And thats the reason we record huge profits, something certain bitter Hawk fans cant come to grips with despite supposedly having more members than us

 

[Pessimistic]

So who wants to be squashed in the MCG with collingwood ansd essendon supporters ?

And how many attended the 'Millenium' game ?

 

[Rohan_]

Originally posted by The Phat Side
Collingwood draw crowds.

Exactly.

1 Collingwood/Essendon game will draw at least 84k and it can be played on a day other than Anzac Day and it will draw that crowd.

 

[PiesPremiers]

Originally posted by Dan26


87,638

Therefore I don't care when we play each other.

As long as its on a public holiday?

 

[Mcchawk]

Originally posted by Lockyer24
And thats the reason we record huge profits, something certain bitter Hawk fans cant come to grips with despite supposedly having more members than us

Very silly comment considering Hawthorn have less fans than Collingwood and you only made what 200k more?

 

[Mocca]

Do you remember those Warner Bros cartoons, with the big bulldog strolling arrogantly down the street, while a small, insignificant little dog danced around his feet, desperate for some attention and validation.

For some reason I'm reminded of those cartoons by this thread.

Against my better judgement, I shall regurgitate my theory from the other thread:

Originally posted by Mocca
Empiricial evidence suggests that Anzac Day crowds for other games are signficantly higher than a ten year average crowd for that fixture.

Average crowd for Hawthorn v Melbourne games for the last ten years: 32,027
Easter Monday crowd: 44,374

12,347 above average, or 38.6% up on the average.

Empirical evidence suggests that Easter Monday crowds for other games are significantly higher than a ten year average crowd for that fixture.

It's a financial bonus because it's a guaranteed home game against a high drawing club with no other games on at the same time.

Give the same situation to any Melbourne club, and they too would reap a financial bonus relative to their normal operations.

Relative to a normal Hawthorn v Melbourne crowd, Hawthorn reaped a financial bonus from having a game against a Melbourne club with no other games on at the same time.

In other words, the situation my little cyber-stalker describes matches exactly the profile I posted on Friday.

Thanks for proving my point, Rohan. You're doing a fine job.

Originally posted by Rohan_
Collingwood/Essendon game will draw at least 84k and it can be played on a day other than Anzac Day and it will draw that crowd.

Average Anzac Day crowd since 1995: 84,687.
Average August Essendon/Collingwood crowd since 1995: 63,475.

Oh, I just remembered something else about those cartoons. The big bulldog always thumped the little dog, and yet the little dog kept coming back for more.

Eerie.