Training Apples' & Jen's Training Thread 2021 (Latest report #3590)

[The Royal Sampler]

What does Ruscoe ever offer?

The aqueduct?

 

[MagicGnome97]

So if T.Brown-McCreery is the only change then it kind of begs the question, what KPI’s are the likes of WHE, C.Brown, Mayne & Madgen actually satisfying to remain in the team?

It’s a mystery to me because to my untrained eye, that quartet is presently contributing very, very little to team performance. “Witches’ Hats” is a adjective that springs to mind.


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WHE I have no idea. Maybe they're giving him a final chance before dropping him for good. C.Brown hasn't been great either but he's younger and just by the sheer nature of being ahead of WHE he stays in for me. I thought Mayne looked pretty good on the weekend before that knock to the face. Was contributing pretty well and didn't look out of place at all imo. After that he was quiet. Madgen is because he is the 7th defender with either Noble or Crisp usually on the wing. Unless you play someone like Greenwood there in the backline.

WHE is the one who really needs to be dropped.

 

[MagicGnome97]

If Tyler is actually dropped ahead of Callum, WHE and Thomas then I’m officially done with this coaching group.

Thomas has been good lately imo dont group him in with those other 2 duds.

 

[MagicGnome97]

I’d have to agree.

I don’t mind Tyler being sent back but not before those you mentioned.

I still think we’re playing him out of position and it’s him or Sier for one inside mid role.


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i'm still not convinced that sier will ever make it, never have been.

 

[MagicGnome97]

I expect McCreery in for Tyler of course but also would like to see Ruscoe ahead of WHE, 2 changes.

 

[manicpie]

i'm still not convinced that sier will ever make it, never have

 

[Robroy22]

It's gonna be interesting to see where the new coaching panel starts playing some of these blokes next season.

 

[Gone Critical]

So if T.Brown-McCreery is the only change then it kind of begs the question, what KPI’s are the likes of WHE, C.Brown, Mayne & Madgen actually satisfying to remain in the team?

It’s a mystery to me because to my untrained eye, that quartet is presently contributing very, very little to team performance. “Witches’ Hats” is a adjective that springs to mind.


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Mayne and Madgen were good. C Brown improved, pity the missed goal but put on good pressure and id some nice things. WHE should be dropped ahead of Tyler though. Thats who I would have out.

 

[hellfire]

So if T.Brown-McCreery is the only change then it kind of begs the question, what KPI’s are the likes of WHE, C.Brown, Mayne & Madgen actually satisfying to remain in the team?

I felt Mayne and Madgen have done enough to hold their spots (albeit the latter was certainly down last week), but I seriously think that for our forwards, the coaches look at pressure acts and nothing else. It’s such a nothing indicator.

 

[Jen2310]

Mayne and Madgen were good. C Brown improved, pity the missed goal but put on good pressure and id some nice things. WHE should be dropped ahead of Tyler though. Thats who I would have out.

I agree. I don't think Cal did as bad as some make it out. A whole lot better than WHE.

 

[LuckyLee]

I felt Mayne and Madgen have done enough to hold their spots (albeit the latter was certainly down last week), but I seriously think that for our forwards, the coaches look at pressure acts and nothing else. It’s such a nothing indicator.

Yep, agreed. My favourite metrics for forwards are goals and marks but I guess that makes me a dinosaur. Ive always thought that kicking a bag of goals is the greatest pressure act any forward can apply to the opposition.


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[Jen2310]

Yep, agreed. My favourite metrics for forwards are goals and marks but I guess that makes me a dinosaur. Ive always thought that kicking a bag of goals is the greatest pressure act any forward can apply to the opposition.


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Probably the case in the past, but the role has expanded than kicking goals these days. Its about how much you work within your limits, about the pressure you apply within the F50, about your input to helping the scoreboard, even if it means not doing it yourself.

 

[TradeDraft]

Ridiculous change if that’s the case. I’m fine with Daicos moving to the wing, but Tyler is part of our future and needs investment, surely we can’t accept the perpetual underperformance from WHE at the expense of getting games into Tyler?

Bucks wants to save his Job so he will play the Old and Vanilla Players instead of Trying the Young Kids

 

[Linda_Lovelace]

I felt Mayne and Madgen have done enough to hold their spots (albeit the latter was certainly down last week), but I seriously think that for our forwards, the coaches look at pressure acts and nothing else. It’s such a nothing indicator.

Sigh, does anyone look at the team balance down back? Magden and Roughead offer no rebound. We cannot have two bricks down there who play such a limited role.

 

[Linda_Lovelace]

Bucks wants to save his Job so he will play the Old and Vanilla Players instead of Trying the Young Kids

I want change but some of these kids played no footy last year and need development before they are thrown to the wolves. Its got to be done in a controlled way.

 

[well left]

i'm still not convinced that sier will ever make it, never have been.

Me either but there were signs last week with his intensity early.


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[Linda_Lovelace]

I agree. I don't think Cal did as bad as some make it out. A whole lot better than WHE.

He is no good as a creative type but he could be a small lock down defender or a run with mid and do roles for the team. He does have speed, agility and goes in hard but he is being played in roles he is not yet capable of and may never be. Our coach lacks imagination re developing players.

 

[Linda_Lovelace]

i'm still not convinced that sier will ever make it, never have been.

I was positive on him but with the rule changes which have sped the game up and reduced stoppages I am not so sure anymore.

 

[Jen2310]

He is no good as a creative type but he could be a small lock down defender or a run with mid and do roles for the team. He does have speed, agility and goes in hard but he is being played in roles he is not yet capable of and may never be. Our coach lacks imagination re developing players.

He was drafted as a midfielder, that's where his best position I think is. He has been training a bit there, doing some centre clearances recently.

 

[Doc1763]

The aqueduct?

OK, besides the aqueduct.

 

[stormskye]

Yep, agreed. My favourite metrics for forwards are goals and marks but I guess that makes me a dinosaur. Ive always thought that kicking a bag of goals is the greatest pressure act any forward can apply to the opposition.


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We play 3 forwards who are incapable of scoring, which leaves us relying on 3 to kick bags. Any wonder we can’t score. Insanity

 

[Jasper84]

Bucks wants to save his Job so he will play the Old and Vanilla Players instead of Trying the Young Kids

Imagine the nerve of a senior coach trying to win games and develop kids in the development league.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

I reckon WHE might end up as medical sub this week.


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I would rather it be C Brown medical sub, and WHE omitted completely, for his own sake. Surely another poor game, and his confidence is down to its lowest ebb....

 

[LarryKinn]

Nope. The senior group. So did Cameron and Ruscoe.

In what world will Ruscoe ever be a better player than Tyler, *ing done with Buckley

 

[LarryKinn]

What does Ruscoe ever offer?

fun celebrations when scores after the ball falls into his lap