List Mgmt. Archer, Brady & The Board

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koshari

Brownlow Medallist
Mar 24, 2011
13,909
19,171
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North Melbourne
I think as more information comes out as to what has happened in 2020 there will be less attacks on journalists who have been harsh in their criticism and more anger directed at the club.

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The problems began a lot earlier than 2020. Its a bit like a skydiving fatality, sure they all end on the ground but the issues are generally present well before. How we can get to a point of having 11 list cloggers is a travesty itself. The rest of the issues have just snowballed. I at least respect the club for taking the harsh first step to addressing our list.
 
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blackshadow

Brownlow Medallist
Sep 24, 2007
25,246
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North Melbourne
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I think as more information comes out as to what has happened in 2020 there will be less attacks on journalists who have been harsh in their criticism and more anger directed at the club.

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With the benefit of 2020 hindsight I'm sure the club wasn't perfect when it comes to handling a totally unprecedented season but you're drawing a very long bow to direct anger at the club rather than vultures like Caro and Barrett - they are just muckraking.

I'm sure the club acted the best way they thought at the time.
 

the flying ham

Premiership Player
Dec 12, 2006
3,410
6,634
AFL Club
North Melbourne
With the benefit of 2020 hindsight I'm sure the club wasn't perfect when it comes to handling a totally unprecedented season but you're drawing a very long bow to direct anger at the club rather than vultures like Caro and Barrett - they are just muckraking.

I'm sure the club acted the best way they thought at the time.
Perhaps anger is too strong a word BS. Certainly a very tough year for the club, going to be more questions asked about decisions made this year that's all.

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Passmore

Brownlow Medallist
May 22, 2001
15,094
39,762
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North Melbourne
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I think as more information comes out as to what has happened in 2020 there will be less attacks on journalists who have been harsh in their criticism and more anger directed at the club.

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Ok. What exactly happened?

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SpiderBurton22

Brownlow Medallist
Mar 17, 2012
10,035
28,722
Caught in the web.
AFL Club
North Melbourne
With the benefit of 2020 hindsight I'm sure the club wasn't perfect when it comes to handling a totally unprecedented season but you're drawing a very long bow to direct anger at the club rather than vultures like Caro and Barrett - they are just muckraking.

I'm sure the club acted the best way they thought at the time.
No doubting the muckraking from Caro and Damo but we had a 7 game coach basically run the football dept through last years trade and off season. FFS. Just one of many football decisions that was questionable

Our football department has plenty of questions to answer
 

The Anvil

All Australian
Oct 5, 2004
861
1,793
AFL Club
North Melbourne
No doubting the muckraking from Caro and Damo but we had a 7 game coach basically run the football dept through last years trade and off season. FFS. Just one of many football decisions that was questionable

Our football department has plenty of questions to answer
Was he really running the football department on his own by necessity, or did he take on additional responsibilities that could have been delegated?

Many hardworking people give too much of themselves assuming responsibility that could have been delegated. This is where mentors are required to help these type of people from burning themselves out.


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Val Keating

Brownlow Medallist
Dec 27, 2017
13,191
28,134
AFL Club
North Melbourne
I think as more information comes out as to what has happened in 2020 there will be less attacks on journalists who have been harsh in their criticism and more anger directed at the club.

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I’ve noticed a theme in your posting around this topic that you seem to know a bit about what happened in Queensland. I’d love to know what you know. Do you think we’ll ever find out?
 

blackshadow

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Sep 24, 2007
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but we had a 7 game coach basically run the football dept through last years trade and off season.
Did we? Where's the evidence? I've seen nothing but speculation.

Seems to me from the times (which were quite frequent in the early pre season) I went down to Arden St that a certain "gardener" was spending a lot of time sitting under the trees talking to North people even though he wasn't "working" at the club.
 

shimaburnsgrieg

Premiership Player
Apr 1, 2017
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North Melbourne
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I don't think anyone is saying the FD did a good job in 2020 - there were failings everywhere on and off the field FD wise.

The extent of these errors will come to light no doubt. And we need to remember it was only 1 year ago the Board called for a full review of the FD by Peter Nash which in turn led to massive changes last year so in reality it has been 2-3 years of change.

The key though is that this has been recognised, action has been taken and new people are at the helm - we have a clear path forward.

Adding Roos as a consultant and, if needed, Vossy as coach will round the off field part of the FD nicely.

On the field we are rebuilding from the ground up as we should be.
 

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Uber Roo

Club Legend
Jun 20, 2018
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3,797
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North Melbourne
Someone who knows her should send her a Facebook PM and tell her to come back

Of course she’ll be limited in what she can say, being a board member, but it would be good for her to be in touch with the feelings and concerns of the members.


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blackshadow

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Sep 24, 2007
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Someone who knows her should send her a Facebook PM and tell her to come back

Of course she’ll be limited in what she can say, being a board member, but it would be good for her to be in touch with the feelings and concerns of the members.


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She'd be back if she wanted to be
 

Uber Roo

Club Legend
Jun 20, 2018
1,225
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North Melbourne
Yep, she can’t due to her position, and rightly so.
I don’t get it TT
Take for instance the Membership thread
Usually negative stuff/ experiences in there
Would she be so conflicted to read it and answer a question or two?
Or take some of the concerns/ feedback back to the board or membership department ?
Just a small example



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Luke72

Premium Platinum
Aug 21, 2012
4,906
10,653
AFL Club
North Melbourne
I think as more information comes out as to what has happened in 2020 there will be less attacks on journalists who have been harsh in their criticism and more anger directed at the club.

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Honestly if they factored in the incredibly trying circumstances of the season any self respecting journalist would put a bit of perspective in before spewing their vitriol out to the masses.
 

Roman Roy

I’m dumb, but I’m smart.
Oct 3, 2017
2,219
7,199
AFL Club
North Melbourne
I don’t get it TT
Take for instance the Membership thread
Usually negative stuff/ experiences in there
Would she be so conflicted to read it and answer a question or two?
Or take some of the concerns/ feedback back to the board or membership department ?
Just a small example



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She can read the posts and as I understand, she gets plenty of feedback from supporters that she takes to the board. No need to engage as a poster. Sometimes on Big Footy, we overestimate our relevance and influence relative to the rest of the membership. This is a small group of people.
 

Uber Roo

Club Legend
Jun 20, 2018
1,225
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North Melbourne
She can read the posts and as I understand, she gets plenty of feedback from supporters that she takes to the board. No need to engage as a poster. Sometimes on Big Footy, we overestimate our relevance and influence relative to the rest of the membership. This is a small group of people.
Fair enough
Point taken


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blackshadow

Brownlow Medallist
Sep 24, 2007
25,246
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North Melbourne
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Don't agree with "can't". She chooses not to.
Can totally understand why.

There would be so many questions asked that she's actually bound not to answer. Not answering would get the backs up of quite a few around here which isn't positive for anyone.
 

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