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Tertiary and Continuing Are apprenticeships dead?
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- May 8, 2006
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It's a tough world too in the job market for blokes in that age group at the moment. I know one bloke who is 56 and has every ticket and certificate under the known sun with decades of experience in mining, building, construction and engineering.
Can't get a job.
At least in your early 20s you have a fighting chance if you make yourself stand out from the crowd.
I'm lucky I work for myself now so I don't have to worry about that stuff but I've had probably over 40 different jobs in my life and I regard myself as an expert in the art of applying for position
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- Jun 16, 2012
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Just got told by work that il be starting an adult apprenticeship as heavy diesel fitter on 2 and 1 roster and theyre not even docking my pay....a tad nervous about heading back to tafe after 11 years out of school
- May 24, 2011
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Hey guys, I’m a fourth year Glazier.
I’m keen to complete my trade, then maybe look to do something else. Im keeping my options open. Just wondering, for all the people who have a trade behind them, what opportunities did that open up when they completed the trade, in terms of a career?
Cheers!
I’m keen to complete my trade, then maybe look to do something else. Im keeping my options open. Just wondering, for all the people who have a trade behind them, what opportunities did that open up when they completed the trade, in terms of a career?
Cheers!
- May 5, 2006
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Trade qualifications open up doors that experience doesn't in that if you are a licensed plumber, electrician etc. then you can be considered for those roles. However good I think I might be at soldering copper pipes or terminating cables, no hat no play as far as getting work in those fields for me.
I know a guy who is a sole trader carpenter/cabinet maker and went through about a dozen apprentices within a year or so. Nice bloke and rarely works past 3pm so not a slave driver but reckons between work ethic, ability to learn and affinity for drugs it wasn't worth the hassle. And this is someone who had a full term apprentice a few years earlier.
I know a guy who is a sole trader carpenter/cabinet maker and went through about a dozen apprentices within a year or so. Nice bloke and rarely works past 3pm so not a slave driver but reckons between work ethic, ability to learn and affinity for drugs it wasn't worth the hassle. And this is someone who had a full term apprentice a few years earlier.
MKMatty
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I’m bumping this.
I’ve gotten to a point in my life where I believe a trade is something I can use to properly set my life up. I’m 24 and working more or less full time in the communications business. Is it too late for someone like me to head to tafe and do a pre-apprenticeship?
my goal in high school was always to do a trade but I got shoved into uni by being too smart for my own good. Dropped out in 2018 and haven’t looked back.
Am I crazy or is this a legitimate option for me?
I’ve gotten to a point in my life where I believe a trade is something I can use to properly set my life up. I’m 24 and working more or less full time in the communications business. Is it too late for someone like me to head to tafe and do a pre-apprenticeship?
my goal in high school was always to do a trade but I got shoved into uni by being too smart for my own good. Dropped out in 2018 and haven’t looked back.
Am I crazy or is this a legitimate option for me?
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I started an apprenticeship as a chippy at 17 finished that and continued on in the trade. At age 23 started one as a plumber so 24 is fine if you think you can live on a apprenticeship wages early on.
tangolikelama did you end up getting one?
- Jan 21, 2013
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Nah, tried but couldn't find someone keen to take me on. Stuck with uni and have scored a really good job in a field i'm passionate about.
Eaglespur
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I'm 27 and am a service technician (basically drive all day and do super simple service work) and thought I'd have a go at getting a mature age apprenticeship.
I was offered a civil landscaping app, a heating and cooling app and an electrical app within a month of looking all during Covid. I ended up doing a trial day with each and decided against the move for any of the three! (Would take a 15k pay cut and lose my company vehicle and have to work way harder). So it's super possible to get into a trade man
MKMatty
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This is super encouraging to hear.
Eaglespur
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Yeah man go hard, I have experience in an office environment which means I have pretty good skills via email. I emailed like every company that was looking to hire even fully qualified guys and just pumped all my local trade companies. A few dug my enthusiasm and emailed me back
MKMatty
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My plan was to do a pre-apprenticeship and go hard at anyone that’s interested.
Eaglespur
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Sure. I got offended the apprenticeships with no pre app. But it would Defs help
I'm not being handed the opportunities like yourself but you mention one of the big challenges.
You have to take a serious pay cut going into an apprenticeship, to the point you almost have to live at home. One of the real turn offs.
Eaglespur
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Yeah I have a mortgage and a fiancé, two dogs haha wasn't viable for me
Don’t be disheartened if you’re slightly older. My company pretty much hires exclusively mature age apprentices. I was 25 when I started, started just after a 39 year old and a 30 year old. The company (and many others) have been burnt by 18 year olds too often in the past. They know if a guy is there and he is 25+, he is there because he’s serious about it and will put in, not just there because his dad told him to get an apprenticeship.
I’m an electrician in the commercial air conditioning field, enjoyable work that is 50/50 computer programming/networking and electrical work.
Joined the Army straight out of school for about 7 years in the Infantry, gave me a great base and a lot of work skills that I just take for granted, are actually rarer than you think in the workplace.
I’m an electrician in the commercial air conditioning field, enjoyable work that is 50/50 computer programming/networking and electrical work.
Joined the Army straight out of school for about 7 years in the Infantry, gave me a great base and a lot of work skills that I just take for granted, are actually rarer than you think in the workplace.
Sonny Bonds
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The ADF is plain stupid with regards to trades. No one wants to hear about it unless you have civilian tickets.
15 years in submarines. Hydraulics, Electrical, Mechanical and Systems just to name a few. As you said, taken for granted. I'm doing ok, but would I have spent that time for the hours and shit pay in the end? No.
That’s not what I said/meant. I meant that I take for granted that rocking up to work on time, having good dress and bearing, respect of superiors etc is something that everyone in the workplace possesses. It definitely isn’t.
My trade involved learning how to shoot people in the face, walk a long way with heavy shit on my back and sleep on spiky rocks. Not that transferable to civilian roles but had no illusions that I’d have to start again. A lot of guys leaving Combat roles think that the world owes them something and they’re so special because they have done that. There’s literally thousands of people that discharge every year with the same skills they claim to have. You still have to work for it on the outside.
As for your specific trade, I believe they are getting a lot better and aligning their courses to civilian qualifications with trade roles in order to help people once they leave/attract people to join since their time won’t be for nothing.
