Yep, the carni folk. Seems to offend them somehow.Anti-vegans are more vocal than vegans
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Yep, the carni folk. Seems to offend them somehow.Anti-vegans are more vocal than vegans
I've always loved that moment at restaurants when you have that 1 clown that pipes up with "well, I'm a vegetarian"
It usually hard not to bring up veganism as it really affects meal choice. Vegetarian is pretty simple to cater for.
Sorry (not sorry) to get preachy, but processed meats (Bacon, salami etc) are on the same list of carcinogens as Plutonium, Asbestos and Tobacco. Red meat is listed a probable or likely carcinogen.Rubbish.
If vegans want to partake in their particular lifestyle good for them, but they need to stop sprouting this absolute bullshit.
seriously if you want to eat nothing but mcdonalds and bacon then that's your prerogative, I just don't see why 95% of the non-vegan population has to act like they're on some kind of crusade
Sorry (not sorry) to get preachy, but processed meats (Bacon, salami etc) are on the same list of carcinogens as Plutonium, Asbestos and Tobacco. Red meat is listed a probable or likely carcinogen.
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&...CxAF&usg=AOvVaw3lRD_QWFF9FkjF21WqumrL&cf=1
The leading killer of men world wide is heart disease with the main cause being high cholesterol consumption. Cholesterol is only consumed by eating animal based proteins. An exclusively plant based diet contains no cholesterol. I'll let you join the dots.
http://www.idph.state.il.us/menshealth/healththreats.htm
For a bit of fun, the world's strongest man eats only a plant based diet.
http://www.greatveganathletes.com/patrik-baboumian-vegan-strongman
These links aren't 'bullshit' leftwing vegan websites sprouting crazy ideas. They're cold hard facts. Eating meat in the quantities that the western world does extraordinarily bad for you. Any amount of meat/animal protein is completely unnecessary for a healthy diet.
Very small amounts of meat have been consumed by humans for 1000's of years. But nothing in volume compared to what the Western world consumes meat today. Why? Refrigeration. That steps into the impact that meat consumption has on the environment.
The plant based food industry is booming and meat consumption will likely go the way of tobacco consumption.
If you're interested in the effects of dairy on osteoporosis (hint: dairy causes osteoporosis ) Im happy to share the info with you.
And yes, I am.
Ive posted once. Twice now in this thread. Shall I count yours and see who has been the most preachy? And can your private school education enlighten me on what statistics have got to do with my statement on meat consumption being far less in the future? And perhaps your superior education can explain why processed meat is on the same list of known carcinogens as asbestos as written by the American Cancer society if it is indeed not a known carcinogen? Is the ACS wrong or are you?for ****s sake, this is what happens when our public education system doesn't properly teach statistics, you get deluded guys like this who think that "meat consumption will go the way of tobacco consumption".
No Bicco, red meat is not as carcinogenic as Asbestos . Eating meat in large quantities is bad for you, but that wasn't the point of the post, was it? the point was how preachy you guys get, and all you've done in your long winded rant is prove him correct.
Imagine going to restaurant with this campaigner lolSorry (not sorry) to get preachy, but processed meats (Bacon, salami etc) are on the same list of carcinogens as Plutonium, Asbestos and Tobacco. Red meat is listed a probable or likely carcinogen.
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&...CxAF&usg=AOvVaw3lRD_QWFF9FkjF21WqumrL&cf=1
The leading killer of men world wide is heart disease with the main cause being high cholesterol consumption. Cholesterol is only consumed by eating animal based proteins. An exclusively plant based diet contains no cholesterol. I'll let you join the dots.
http://www.idph.state.il.us/menshealth/healththreats.htm
For a bit of fun, the world's strongest man eats only a plant based diet.
http://www.greatveganathletes.com/patrik-baboumian-vegan-strongman
These links aren't 'bullshit' leftwing vegan websites sprouting crazy ideas. They're cold hard facts. Eating meat in the quantities that the western world does extraordinarily bad for you. Any amount of meat/animal protein is completely unnecessary for a healthy diet.
Very small amounts of meat have been consumed by humans for 1000's of years. But nothing in volume compared to what the Western world consumes meat today. Why? Refrigeration. That steps into the impact that meat consumption has on the environment.
The plant based food industry is booming and meat consumption will likely go the way of tobacco consumption.
If you're interested in the effects of dairy on osteoporosis (hint: dairy causes osteoporosis ) Im happy to share the info with you.
And yes, I am.
Ive posted once. Twice now in this thread. Shall I count yours and see who has been the most preachy? And can your private school education enlighten me on what statistics have got to do with my statement on meat consumption being far less in the future? And perhaps your superior education can explain why processed meat is on the same list of known carcinogens as asbestos as written by the American Cancer society if it is indeed not a known carcinogen? Is the ACS wrong or are you?
I go to restaurants all the time with colleagues including steak houses. I live in Hobart and Rockwall is brilliant if you're interested. I'll order a curry or whatever, we have a chat about why I eat a plant based diet (Its mainly health, but environmental and animal welfare are also very good reasons) and then we eat, talk footy etc. The reason I posted is because there's a lot of opinions out there so I thought Id throw in some facts. Im neither a campaigner nor a dickhead, so maybe you could save the abuse for the Bay?Imagine going to restaurant with this campaigner lol
"Think I'll have the rib eye with wedges, a side of onion rings with diane sauce on my steak"
"Here are some links dude, you do realise you are eating the equivalent of asbestos, plutonium and tobacco?"
"Mate, I'm here to enjoy a meal out"
"But you are killing yourself and tbh I dont like sitting at the table as I feel I'm passively meat eating"
"**** off dickhead. One more word and I'll tip you over"
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Not really abuse is it? It was a comedic attempt at a possible reality.I go to restaurants all the time with colleagues including steak houses. I live in Hobart and Rockwall is brilliant if you're interested. I'll order a curry or whatever, we have a chat about why I eat a plant based diet (Its mainly health, but environmental and animal welfare are also very good reasons) and then we eat, talk footy etc. The reason I posted is because there's a lot of opinions out there so I thought Id throw in some facts. Im neither a campaigner nor a dickhead, so maybe you could save the abuse for the Bay?
My tone? I just posted some links. I quoted a post of yours that used the word 'bullshit'. My tone is fine.Number of posts isn't preaching mate, its your tone and overall content. You feel the need to scream at people who dare to have a different lifestyle than you.
Do you honestly believe red meat is as statistically likely to cause cancer as asbestos? I struggle to believe you genuinely believe that, if you were engaging in hyperbole it's fine. The reason is because you can't simply group everything into 5 categories of probability, that's just not how math works..... I don't really have time to teach you basic statistics, but I've looked at the reports on the carcinogenic effects of red meat and processed meat when they were released, and I can assure you that they are not as carcinogenic as asbestos or a heavy smoking habit. That is just patently false. The report showed that extremely high intake of those particular meats, well above the recommended amount, showed a moderate increase in the probability of cancer in participants compared to those with lower levels of red meat/processed meat intake. The report did not compare red meat/processed meat intake to asbestos or cancer.
This only adds to the assumption that you are preachy, you are talking far more from ideology than you are from facts or genuine knowledge.
What an amazing story, thanks for sharing!I've always loved that moment at restaurants when you have that 1 clown that pipes up with "well, I'm a vegetarian
Yeah I know mate, that's why I don't go into threads about eating meat and tell people about how great tofu is.we don't though, most people don't really give a s**t if you want to go plant-based
They often (always) ask why.Not really abuse is it? It was a comedic attempt at a possible reality.
What makes you think the omnivore is interested in why you're a vegan?
He isnt. He just wants a feed.
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What an amazing story, thanks for sharing!
So glad you're in this thread
Almost certain they are expecting "just dont like to eat meat"They often (always) ask why.
Be honest, you don't actually have anyone to share a meal with do you.It's so you right?
I'm certain you dont. Your previous reply was maniacal.Be honest, you don't actually have anyone to share a meal with do you.
For a sport where weight and inflammation are the two worst things to do to your body it makes sense,Not AFL, but read the other day Aussie Ryan Broekhoff, who got signed by the Dallas Mavericks recently, has been vegan for a year or two. Reckons being vegan is partly was lead to his great form and earning an NBA contract.
Tbh was pretty surprised to hear of an elite athlete like that being vegan.