Training Are they really unfit?

[Doss]

Of course it doesn't. There's no substitute.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

man everyone jumping onto this with some steam huh.

Does everyone forget we played Adelaide IN Adelaide after a 6 day break in torrential rain??

 

[DapperJong]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest we're not going to win the flag this year.

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhat?!??!?!!??!??!!

 

[Pweter]

man everyone jumping onto this with some steam huh.

Does everyone forget we played Adelaide IN Adelaide after a 6 day break in torrential rain, and that after playing on a sponge like surface in warm humid conditions in Brisbane??

EFA

 

[HirdsTheWord]

EFA

what

 

[JayJ20]

Sorry to intrude, but as we've got two of the 34 on our list it's an interesting discussion to read about.

I reckon you can't truly judge if they're feeling it already until your game after you play us. You've got a 10 day break before ANZAC day so the players should be fine, the 5 day break before your game against us means you could excuse some tired bodies but your round 7 game will be the best indicator.

Hibberd has had a couple niggles and played his first game in the VFL last week and looked good, if there was going to be any bloke that'd struggle with a year off I think it'd be old thunder thighs piggy so we'll see if they bring him in straight away or let him get some real good form going at Casey. Melksham seems pretty fit but his problems are above the shoulders anyway

Anyone else sitting back extremely comfortable that it's not us that have to deal with this?

He'll also probably win you the game one day and put your hopes up, then crush it into pieces again

 

[Pweter]

what

EFA = Edited For Accuracy = I quoted your post and updated it a bit

 

[HirdsTheWord]

EFA = Edited For Accuracy = I quoted your post and updated it a bit

yeah i know.......... but we didn't have any issues against Brisbane with the pitch. We just sucked and let them back in into the game

 

[Doss]

yeah i know.......... but we didn't have any issues against Brisbane with the pitch. We just sucked and let them back in into the game

His point is that the surface probably made us more leg-weary than normal in the weeks after.

 

[freddy mercury]

No issue here at all, we were beaten up by who I think are the premier this year on their home deck, who are a four goal better side at home. They out played us, out ran us and purely outclassed us. Think we are making something outta nothing.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

His point is that the surface probably made us more leg-weary than normal in the weeks after.

Yeah i think that's stretching a bit. Was it harder? Yes but i don't think that's it whats contributing to the boys lack of pace. Most trips up to QLD have those conditions. Would think that most of the problems relating to the swamp game.

I also think getting smashed by the likely premier at their home ground the consecutive week makes things look worse than they probably are. If the game against Carlton was dry weather we would be odds on for 3-1 going into Anzac Day as heavy favourites.

 

[Pweter]

His point is that the surface probably made us more leg-weary than normal in the weeks after.

Yep.

Round 1 - No issue
Round 2 - Soft surface and tropical weather, ran the game out better than our opponents
Round 3 - 100% of the game played in the rain, often torrential rain
Round 4 - Play who are currently the best team in the comp on their home deck off a short break

Our legs would've been heavy late in the game on Saturday night for sure based on our preceding fortnight, but we lost the game in the 1st half trying to take Adelaide on at their own game while playing bruise free footy.

If we can't run the game out against Collingwood then i'll be concerned given the 10 day break, however if we get outrun by Melbourne off a 5 day break I think I'll take my bat and ball and go home if people start with the "we're unfit" shit again.

 

[Pweter]

Yeah i think that's stretching a bit. Was it harder? Yes but i don't think that's it whats contributing to the boys lack of pace. Most trips up to QLD have those conditions. Would think that most of the problems relating to the swamp game.

I also think getting smashed by the likely premier at their home ground the consecutive week makes things look worse than they probably are. If the game against Carlton was dry weather we would be odds on for 3-1 going into Anzac Day as heavy favourites.

I think we're on the same page, however it looks like I'm putting a bit more weight on the conditions in Brisbane having a cumulative effect than you are

 

[Bombermania]

Listening to Hepp, I don't think being unfit is the right word, I think a bigger problem might be the disconnect between guys who are used to the crappy go short, go sideways or go backwards approach of the last decade verses the go forward by taking the game on.

This might be what Woosha is really getting at when he talks about team balance because every year AFL clubs can change as much as 20%-25% of their list.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

I think we're on the same page, however it looks like I'm putting a bit more weight on the conditions in Brisbane having a cumulative effect than you are

i also think many of our supporters expectations of where the team is at is way above realistic.

we are 8-12 at best imo

 

[schmuttt]

Anyone else sitting back extremely comfortable that it's not us that have to deal with this?

He'll also probably win you the game one day and put your hopes up, then crush it into pieces again

Hopefully he's one of those guys who randomly plays a blinder against his old team

 

[DapperDon]

Hopefully he's one of those guys who randomly plays a blinder against his old team

I am just looking forward to him hitting some Essendon players on the chest for a change

 

[HirdsTheWord]

I am just looking forward to him hitting some Essendon players on the chest for a change

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

I'm starting to wonder if Woosha has pulled a Sheedy. With Dyson's denial that the players have hit the wall I'm wondering if Woosha said that publicly as a challenge of sorts.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Listening to Hepp, I don't think being unfit is the right word, I think a bigger problem might be the disconnect between guys who are used to the crappy go short, go sideways or go backwards approach of the last decade verses the go forward by taking the game on.

This might be what Woosha is really getting at when he talks about team balance because every year AFL clubs can change as much as 20%-25% of their list.

This sort of sums up what I'm talking about.

The first couple of weeks everything seemed to be fine.

Now they're apparently lacking match fitness (granted, only according to some)

Woosha says the they've hit the wall but Hepp now says that isn't the case!

Or is it the the team gelling?

Interesting one - I guess it's a combination of all but it's hard to know. You discuss some players and the response from many is "oh they're not fit". Really?

 

[windyhill]

Jobe can't lift his legs.

 

[Maddogm]

Jobe can't lift his legs.

Is that because they're attached to his body?

 

[citizen-erased]

man everyone jumping onto this with some steam huh.

Does everyone forget we played Adelaide IN Adelaide after a 6 day break in torrential rain??

And took Watson, Baguley, Brown, Green, Goddard, Berger and Stanton over.
Not the paciest side we could have gone with.
Should have rested some.

 

[windyhill]

Is that because they're attached to his body?

Probably.

 

[CBombers17]

im hardly a test case.....

but deciding to play again this year after a huge break, i was training up an absolute storm! running rings around it, bouncing about - doing everything required.

5 mins into the first practice match i was blowing up a storm - half way through first game i had massive lactic acid legs and was useless.

again, not saying i can compare with elite systems and all that jazz, just saying training has zero similarities to actual match play imo.

Thanks Howard, you just reminded me of my playing days!