Aren't T20s exciting?

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Do i need dancing girls to watch the cricket? Hell no

But i dont find the female form so offensive id not watch the cricket because of it. Nor do i need fireworks. music ect, but again dont care that they're there. If thats what some people want to see, great, doesnt effect me.

Dont understand the hang up. What does worry me however, is people whining about every tiny little thing. We're surely in danger of taking the title off the poms.
 

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Do i need dancing girls to watch the cricket? Hell no

But i dont find the female form so offensive id not watch the cricket because of it. Nor do i need fireworks. music ect, but again dont care that they're there. If thats what some people want to see, great, doesnt effect me.

Dont understand the hang up. What does worry me however, is people whining about every tiny little thing. We're surely in danger of taking the title off the poms.
With 20/20 you don't actually need the cricket.

The crowd can just sit there for three hours, get pissed, watch the fireworks and dancing girls, listen to the music and the moron on the PA, and generally just party.

Maybe put baseball or WWE up on the big screen to complete the American feel of it all.

So why make the cricketers even go out there when there is so much fun to be had as it is? :confused:
 

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With 20/20 you don't actually need the cricket.

The crowd can just sit there for three hours, get pissed, watch the fireworks and dancing girls, listen to the music and the moron on the PA, and generally just party.

Maybe put baseball or WWE up on the big screen to complete the American feel of it all.

So why make the cricketers even go out there when there is so much fun to be had as it is? :confused:
Hahaha so true :thumbsu:

Next thing David Guetta will be in on it.

Summadayze featuring T20.
 

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The thing with cricket, it's never seemed like a cool game. Always popular, but never really trendy. In fact, i reckon there's in inherit uncoolness that ads to the appeal. There's something inveterate about the way it's played, the rules etc. stemming from an older more sensible time I guess. You've got blokes out there that don't look like superstars, some vaguely athletic some are, wearing some pretty daggy clothing, and that's fine. The fireworks and the dancers (i find them the most ridiculous) and the DJs seem so jarring. This is cricket, it's not cool, it's cricket. Stop that!
 

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Watching tonight I have learnt that Warner's 25 in Sydney was "the most influential 25 runs ever" according to Ian Healy, and that the straight boundary at the MCG is longer than the boundary directly behind the batsman according to Michael Slater.
 

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None of our batsmen coud lift their bat off the ground bar Finch.

I liked how I found this infinitely less entertaining than watching 3 hours of a test.
 

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Went to my first T20 game last month. It was incredibly annoying. I think it stood out more because the game itself was incredibly dull.

Really an indictment on Gen Y and earlier that they could sit through that shit.
Not Gen Y that they're appealing to. Gen Y ended in about 95 when the kids were old enough to have played club cricket for a few years, it's Gen Z who they're tying to convert into smash bang cricketers.
 

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I take this sport about as seriously as I took that beach cricket series.

Bring on the ODI's.
ditto.

I get all that and perhaps my brain is just way too entrenched in cricket to understand, but I simply don't get it?

I see it fading away once the fairweather's realise it's actually more boring than Test or ODI's. They just turn up to get pissed and because "everyone else does".

It's so pointless! Other than the big hitting there's nothing else that I could see anyone finding interesting. Let's assume T20 was the only form of the sport that ever existed, as a sport on it's own, it's pointless. It has no climaxes or ebbs and flows that ALL sports have to have to create an interest. It just seems to well... happen. If no one is hitting sixes, it's boring, there's NOTHING else to keep you interested.

Cricket is such a long game because it takes that time to develop, and it's those things that make cricket so enjoyable. Take that away, and it just seems like a nothing contest.

Even ODI's has enough time to develop challenges.

Maybe I'm just too far gone :confused:
Agree with pretty much everything you said. Everything in 20/20 feels meaningless. Wickets are meaningless, hitting a 4 is meaningless and almost a disappointment. Anything bar a big 6 is a disappointment.
 

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How am I supposed to care about 20/20 cricket?

Call this a rant or whatever you like, but I simply dont understand how I am supposed to care about 20/20 cricket. And I am a cricket enthusiast through and through. Always have been, but not sure if I always will be.

In every sport, matches need to have a purpose and value to make you care about what happens in the course of a game, and therefore a series/season. What value is their exactly in 20/20 cricket? Wickets almost seem meaningless. At least in ODI's, losing an early wicket meant that the next batsman was under pressure to value their wicket and try to steady the ship so the side batted out 50 overs. In 20/20, lose a wicket - who cares? Just keep slogging away.

When the whole concept first started as a gimmic it was mildly entertaining, and then the IPL (which i predict as the doom for all forms of cricket) began. You know cricket is in danger when i couldnt even get excited for an upcoming match that featured Warne, Gilchrist and Symonds. These guys had me glued to the TV for ODI's and Test Match cricket for over a decade, but no so for the IPL. But how was i meant to get excited about the Bangalore Blazers or whatever the fck they are called, when I have no attachment to that city, and dont have access to watch the matches played at some ungodly hour of the day?

Ok, maybe domestic 20/20 cricket will make me care more. So this season comes along, and the BBL matches are all being telecast on Foxtel. What proportion of the cricket following demographic do you reckon can afford Foxtel? Cricket has always been a channel 9 sport that you can watch with your old man and your brothers on free to air. Well not any more. The first full game I saw in its entirety this season was the final at the WACA. I should be able to get excited about this right? Out walks the born-and-bred "Perth" players such as Herschelle Gibbs and Paul Collingwood. Hang on this is my PERTH team right? Might as well have been called the Mumbai muff-divers. End result when Perth Scorchers lose the final - I couldnt care less. And how could I when the season proper matches werent on free-to-air TV, and half the players from this year, will be gone the next?

So tonight im watching the India vs Australian 2nd Twenty/20. There are more Indians in the crowd than aussies judging by the noise being made, and if it wasnt for the uniqueness of the MCG and my familiarity with the ground, you could be forgiven for thinking this game was played in New Delhi. Says something about how the Indians care a lot more about this hit and giggle format than your humble Australian. But i digress. This is the Australian team so I can expect the best of the best. House hold names at the peak of their careers. So why is Brad Hogg and Brett Lee out there? Sure they were great in their day, but is really the best of Australias cricketing stocks? Anyway, Ian Healy and Mark Taylor are constantly telling me how much this game means to "Australia". Apparently this is because if we win - we will improve our world ranking from somewhere around 6 to number 4 in the world. Just in time for the Twenty/20 world cup. Great...

Meanwhile, theres something missing from this game. We've got the fireworks, the dancing girls, the heart rate monitor, the players are mic'd up, we can even measure the distance of the 6's hit!! Music is playing throughout any lull in the game that lasts more than 10 seconds. Oh i know whats missing - its the one thing ive always associated with cricket on TV. The voices of cricket - Bill Lawry, Tony Grieg, and Richie Benaud. Where are they? Dont tell me they cant be stuffed commentating a raped version of something that looks like cricket. Hell i even would rather hear the familiar sound of Ian Chappell than the nauseating Healy, Nicholas and Slater who orgasm over every half-arsed careless slog to cow corner.

Well Australia lost. But rather than sulking about a particular aussie player, and moaning about how we lost and who should be dropped for the next game, im feeling rather empty. The match meant nothing. And i wonder where the motivation to tune in for the next match comes from. Is this Twenty/20 format a tri-series? Will there be a final? A trophy to be played for? How many are there? The commentators have mentioned nothing other than how good India are fielding and what an exciting talent Warner is. This match for me btw is on delayed telecast, and normally with ODI's in this situation, ill desperately avoid all media so as not to have the result spoiled. But for this match, I couldnt really care less.

So when over the course of the aussie summer (or the entire calendar year) am i meant to care about 20/20 cricket?
 

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Re: How am I supposed to care about 20/20 cricket?

some great posts.

ive found myself desensitised to all the t20 games. boring as hell. feels so fake and contrived. i have better things to do with my time. legends like warne, macgill, hogg, hayden and lee are the only reason to watch.

i'll still sit down to watch as much of an odi as I can and stick it out to the end - that's summer.

i will watch a test match from start to finish no matter what tho.

and not one thing the international cricket bodies and their friggen marketing clowns try will not work with me - or anyone else i know who knows what the game is all about.

who cares about the 'new markets' to the game - cricket has survived and thrived for so long as tests and then odis. you are MAD if you don't get seduced by test cricket.
 

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Re: How am I supposed to care about 20/20 cricket?

Call this a rant or whatever you like, but I simply dont understand how I am supposed to care about 20/20 cricket. And I am a cricket enthusiast through and through. Always have been, but not sure if I always will be.

In every sport, matches need to have a purpose and value to make you care about what happens in the course of a game, and therefore a series/season. What value is their exactly in 20/20 cricket? Wickets almost seem meaningless. At least in ODI's, losing an early wicket meant that the next batsman was under pressure to value their wicket and try to steady the ship so the side batted out 50 overs. In 20/20, lose a wicket - who cares? Just keep slogging away.

When the whole concept first started as a gimmic it was mildly entertaining, and then the IPL (which i predict as the doom for all forms of cricket) began. You know cricket is in danger when i couldnt even get excited for an upcoming match that featured Warne, Gilchrist and Symonds. These guys had me glued to the TV for ODI's and Test Match cricket for over a decade, but no so for the IPL. But how was i meant to get excited about the Bangalore Blazers or whatever the fck they are called, when I have no attachment to that city, and dont have access to watch the matches played at some ungodly hour of the day?

Ok, maybe domestic 20/20 cricket will make me care more. So this season comes along, and the BBL matches are all being telecast on Foxtel. What proportion of the cricket following demographic do you reckon can afford Foxtel? Cricket has always been a channel 9 sport that you can watch with your old man and your brothers on free to air. Well not any more. The first full game I saw in its entirety this season was the final at the WACA. I should be able to get excited about this right? Out walks the born-and-bred "Perth" players such as Herschelle Gibbs and Paul Collingwood. Hang on this is my PERTH team right? Might as well have been called the Mumbai muff-divers. End result when Perth Scorchers lose the final - I couldnt care less. And how could I when the season proper matches werent on free-to-air TV, and half the players from this year, will be gone the next?

So tonight im watching the India vs Australian 2nd Twenty/20. There are more Indians in the crowd than aussies judging by the noise being made, and if it wasnt for the uniqueness of the MCG and my familiarity with the ground, you could be forgiven for thinking this game was played in New Delhi. Says something about how the Indians care a lot more about this hit and giggle format than your humble Australian. But i digress. This is the Australian team so I can expect the best of the best. House hold names at the peak of their careers. So why is Brad Hogg and Brett Lee out there? Sure they were great in their day, but is really the best of Australias cricketing stocks? Anyway, Ian Healy and Mark Taylor are constantly telling me how much this game means to "Australia". Apparently this is because if we win - we will improve our world ranking from somewhere around 6 to number 4 in the world. Just in time for the Twenty/20 world cup. Great...

Meanwhile, theres something missing from this game. We've got the fireworks, the dancing girls, the heart rate monitor, the players are mic'd up, we can even measure the distance of the 6's hit!! Music is playing throughout any lull in the game that lasts more than 10 seconds. Oh i know whats missing - its the one thing ive always associated with cricket on TV. The voices of cricket - Bill Lawry, Tony Grieg, and Richie Benaud. Where are they? Dont tell me they cant be stuffed commentating a raped version of something that looks like cricket. Hell i even would rather hear the familiar sound of Ian Chappell than the nauseating Healy, Nicholas and Slater who orgasm over every half-arsed careless slog to cow corner.

Well Australia lost. But rather than sulking about a particular aussie player, and moaning about how we lost and who should be dropped for the next game, im feeling rather empty. The match meant nothing. And i wonder where the motivation to tune in for the next match comes from. Is this Twenty/20 format a tri-series? Will there be a final? A trophy to be played for? How many are there? The commentators have mentioned nothing other than how good India are fielding and what an exciting talent Warner is. This match for me btw is on delayed telecast, and normally with ODI's in this situation, ill desperately avoid all media so as not to have the result spoiled. But for this match, I couldnt really care less.

So when over the course of the aussie summer (or the entire calendar year) am i meant to care about 20/20 cricket?
Nice post.

It is like going to the Spring Carnival.

100,000 there and 95,000 know nothing about Horse Racing or even watch the races.

T20 cricket is 60,000 people and they have only a passing interest in the game if at all.

Dress ups and dancing and who cares what the score is!

Why should you care about T20 cricket.

You shouldn't.

No one should.

It just isn't cricket.
 
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i'm entertained by t20. i don't care for the result whatsoever. and i've finally reconcilled this in my mind.

i take it as a completely separate game to test cricket. it's not 'either, or' any more or less than you 'either choose baseball or test cricket'. It's a form of entertainment, watered down, easy to take for the masses. it's not a choice between tests or t20 because i have easily watched both this year.

it's a bit of fluff. i'll never remember anyone's decent innings as anything special, because it's 40 odd minutes of smashing without thought that could go either way and it's meaningless. I'll never remember if anyone takes 7/10, because it could just as easily be 0/120.

australians were on the backfoot, hadnt started well last night, and brett lee was laughing his ass off, half hidden by smoke and with music blaring. i dont think anyone bleeds for this. this sums it up for me.

but it's entertaining and easy to get to and see a result. the day we don't play tests anymore and only play t20s is the day i whinge but for now, it's fine.
 
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none of this matters anyway. for years, tests and ODIs existed together just fine. there's no reason t20s can't be added to that.

it's to be enjoyed, or hated, as a separate thing.
 

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The thing with cricket, it's never seemed like a cool game. Always popular, but never really trendy. In fact, i reckon there's in inherit uncoolness that ads to the appeal. There's something inveterate about the way it's played, the rules etc. stemming from an older more sensible time I guess. You've got blokes out there that don't look like superstars, some vaguely athletic some are, wearing some pretty daggy clothing, and that's fine. The fireworks and the dancers (i find them the most ridiculous) and the DJs seem so jarring. This is cricket, it's not cool, it's cricket. Stop that!
This. I don't mind Twenty20. I do have a problem with all the the added bs that has been described by several posters. Dancers, bands, morph-men :rolleyes: and kiss cams are just pointless fluff and don't add anything. The crowd often make an amazing atmosphere, with their mexican waves and chants (Scorchers vs Heat at the WACA last year was electrifying early on).

Don't mind a bit of music so long as its in good taste, don't mind those flamethrower things if they are used sparingly (like when the team is running out onto the field, and it is relevant; ie for the Heat or Scorchers).

Some of the trashy stuff though becomes very grating, very quickly.

Also my main other beef is with the shirts. Why do they not have collars? Cricket shirts should always have collars (or at least buttons/zips like the EPL guernseys). Maybe wearing t-shirts in cricket matches is meant to be 'trendy', but I'm a teenager and appreciate that collars are a long held cricket tradition.

Oh and lastly, I really wouldn't mind seeing some more bowler-orientated pitches. May bring back a little of balance, and a wicket is just as exciting as a six, at least for a home crowd. Just because it is a limited overs game, doesn't mean a bit of thoughtful shot selection would go astray.
 
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