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In a statement, the Arizona Cardinals said "nothing has changed regarding our opinion and high regard for Kyler Murray."​

The statement comes shortly after ESPN's Chris Mortensen cited a source who called Murray "self-centered, immature and a finger pointer." Mortensen said Murray, who recently unfollowed the Cardinals on all social media platforms, is "frustrated" with the team after their humiliating Wild Card loss to the Rams. "We are excited to continue that improvement in 2022 and are excited that Kyler Murray is the quarterback leading us," the team said in its statement. The franchise is in all-out damage control after someone in the organization flamed the team's most important player on Super Bowl Sunday -- a curious move headed into the offseason. NFL Network's Mike Garafolo said the Cardinals "want a step forward from [Murray] in a number of areas like leadership and body language — the kind of things he’s been working on, and continues to work on." Murray will be back under center for the Cards, however disgruntled.
SOURCE: Pro Football Talk on Twitter
Feb 13, 2022, 1:46 PM ET
 

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports Kyler Murray is "frustrated" with the Cardinals and thinks he’s been framed as a scapegoat for the playoff loss to the Rams.​

Murray unfollowed the Cardinals on his media accounts last week, leading to rumors of a rift between him and the team. Mortensen confirms there's "acrimony" between the sides, something the Cardinals ultimately expect to be resolved. Arizona remains committed to Murray, whose's rookie contract runs through 2023, as their starting quarterback. There's still likely more to come out here but things look headed in the right direction. Murray's standing with the Cardinals remains a situation to monitor this offseason.
SOURCE: ESPN
Feb 13, 2022, 12:42 PM ET
 

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GG.exe said:
What nonsense is he talking about? he was the one who deleted all Cardinals imagery from his account without a word.

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Thought provoking nonsense
 
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I knew all this was about getting paid, injuries are mounting up and he knows it, Cards have said no, so he threw all the toys out of the cot
 
Remember this weird interview pre draft.... strange, strange, guy

 
Reddit link

Are the Arizona Cardinals cursed? An Investigation.​


The longest championship drought in professional American sports belongs to the Arizona Cardinals, who have gain the honor by virtue of having last won it all in 1947 (second place are the Cleveland Indians Commanders Guardians, who won the World Series a year later). When success is elusive for so long, people tend to look to more mystical reasons why their team is unable to win a championship, and so we have curses, real and fake. Most sports curses are fake and are readily explained by bad ownership and bad luck (“luck” being a catch-all term for coincidence and nothing more than that). But some are real, and while they can be broken, this requires a good deal of power. The most well-known American sports curse is probably the Billy Goat curse placed on the Chicago Cubs, where a man who was prevented from bringing his pet goat to Wrigley in 1945 cursed the team to never again win the NL pennant. This curse was finally broken in 2016, and if you don’t think that 2016 was a year full of dark magic then I don’t know what to tell you. Our goal today is to determine if the Cardinals are cursed, and if they are, how to break that curse.

-- The Pottsville Theory --

Most discussion of a Cardinals curse centers around the disputed championship in 1925 - one of only two that they won. There was no official Championship Game in 1925 - whoever had the best record at the end of the season was the champion. With the season coming to an end and the Cardinals tied for first place with the Pottsville Maroons, the Cardinals scheduled a game with the Milwaukee Badgers so that a champion could be determined. But the Badgers had run out of cash for the year and couldn’t afford to field their team, so one of the Cardinals players recruited a bunch of Milwaukee-area high schoolers to play for the Badgers. Unsurprisingly, the Cardinals crushed the high school team 58-0.

Pottsville had a similar-but-different strategy - rather than playing an out-of-cash pro team or a high school team, they scheduled a game against Notre Dame. Notre Dame had gone 7-2-1 that year and was easily one of the best teams in college football, but Pottsville won the game on a last-second field goal. This was actually a really big deal and helped to legitimize the NFL, which in 1925 was still trying to make a case for its own existence.

Faced with having to decide which of these was a legitimate victory, the NFL president annulled both results and fined the cardinals $1000, but then decided that because Notre Dame was in the territory of another NFL team, the Maroons had broken NFL rules in scheduling the game. The championship was therefore awarded to the Cardinals. Pottsville (home to Yuengling and presumably other things?) Is still mad about it.

So here is the Curse Theory: the Cardinals should not have been champions in 1925, and by unjustly claiming the championship, they have brought a curse upon themselves. This curse can only be lifted by returning the championship to Pottsville.

There are several problems with this. First, this wasn’t a unilateral decision by the Cardinals that they would be champions, it was a decision by the NFL. Second, this is not the only disputed NFL championship. Only four years earlier, the Decatur Staleys (now the Chicago Bears) stole a championship from Buffalo, and the Bears are decidedly not cursed - they’ve won many times since 1921 and I don’t think you’ll meet a single Bears fan who blames the current state of the team on a curse rather than incompetent ownership. And third and most importantly, the Cardinals did actually win a championship in 1947. Partisans of the Pottsville Curse like to point to an NFL vote in 1963 that cemented the Cardinals as 1925 champions, but again, this was a league-wide vote and it wasn’t particularly close. So let’s talk about that 1947 championship and see if we can find anything mystical.

-- 1947 --

Starting in 1933, the NFL moved to a championship-game system. And in 1947, the Cardinals played the Philadelphia Eagles for the championship. The Cardinals had started 1947 by paying an unprecedented amount of money for an all-star backfield, and went into the championship game as heavy favorites over Philadelphia. In addition to the talent, the 1947 title game had a couple other things going on that favored the Cardinals.

First, the game was played in Chicago, at the Cardinals home of Comiskey Park. And second, the report of the game in the Chicago Tribune mentions that the Eagles began the game wearing cleats, but the referees didn’t like the look of them, penalized the Eagles for “illegal equipment”, and made them change into basketball shoes instead. Despite these advantages, the Cardinals almost lost. They got six first downs the whole game and had an utterly anemic passing attack. Luckily, four of those first downs involved the million-dollar backfield avoiding tackles from the basketball-shoe clad defense. Cardinals scored four touchdowns on runs of 44 yards, 70 yards, 75 yards, and 70 yards. Eagles played a normal game and had a normal box score, scoring three touchdowns, but that wasn’t enough. Cardinals 28, Eagles 21. NFL champions.

Clearly, someone had their thumb on the scale for this game. The Cardinals should not have won, and given every advantage in the book barely managed to pull it out. Rather than this game disproving a curse, I think it actually supports the existence of one. But it also supports the existence of a powerful force supporting the Cardinals and trying its best to break them through.

So what to do with this? Is this really the result of the Pottsville game? Our firm answer is no. This goes much, much deeper.

-- Football and Arizona --

Football is obviously ingrained in the heart of America. But when we say that, we generally mean that football is the most popular sport, and speaks to the American desire to watch large men run into each other. But what if we mean that literally? That football, and these teams in particular, were always at the center of America, just waiting to be discovered? Then we could extrapolate to say that, although the Arizona Cardinals did not move to the Phoenix area until the late 80s, they were never not the Arizona Cardinals.

And with that principal in mind, we find a striking correlation between the development of the Cardinals, and football in particular, and the development of the Phoenix area.

Phoenix was first settled by Americans in 1867 when Jack Swilling, a Confederate veteran, saw the Salt River valley as a good place to grow food to sell to the miners in the west of the territory. The Official Story is that he named the area Phoenix because he noticed centuries-old canals that had long been abandoned by the native population, and described the area as a civilization rising from the ashes. One need only point to the year and Swilling’s Confederate service to surmise that he pictured a different civilization rising up from the ashes.* We will return to Swilling and his naming of Phoenix.

At the same time, in the more populated northeast, the first games of American football were being played, with the first official game played between Rutgers and Princeton less than two years later. The game quickly spread to the midwest, where it was enthusiastically taken up by the University of Chicago - whose mascot was, of course, the phoenix.

In 1881, the city of Phoenix was officially incorporated. In the same year, Christopher O’Brien was born in Chicago. O’Brien would go on to join an athletic club in the south side, where he would fall in love with football. Unable to play at a university, O’Brien instead transformed the athletic club into a real football team, and arranged games with other teams in the midwest. He bought old uniforms from the university, uniforms that were so faded that they were no longer maroon, but cardinal. And so the Cardinals got their name.

From these humble beginnings, both Phoenix and football grew far beyond anybody’s expectations. Both took off exponentially after the second world war, helped by the new inventions of air conditioning and television. And in 1987, the Cardinals moved to Phoenix, finally uniting the two.

-- What is an Arizona Cardinal? --

Although the logo on their helmets is a bird, the word “cardinal” originally meant “that on which a thing depends”**. Taking the widely accepted principal that Names Matter, the etymological definition of Arizona Cardinals is “the things on which Arizona depends”. But what could this be? To find out, let’s ask the original inhabitants.

“Arizona” likely comes from a Spanish version of an O’odham word for the region. The O’odham share a creation story with the other southwestern nations - Hopi, Navajo, Apache, Pueblo, etc. This story describes the people traveling through three worlds before reaching this world. Those three worlds were not nice places, and the people who escaped from them left behind creatures who desired only evil. But the people who escaped were aided by powerful beings.

What if this were true? Not all of it, of course, but we must recognize that all creation stories have Truth at their center. What if we accepted that there exist three other, darker worlds, beneath the American southwest? And within those darker worlds, beings that long to escape? If we do, then the story of the Arizona Cardinals begins to come into focus. The Cardinals are the thing on which Arizona hinges. Football only came into existence after the founding of Phoenix. The civilization that Swilling was drawn to, that he envisioned rising from the ashes, was neither an older Native society nor the Confederacy, but was the First World. It is likely that he didn’t know what he was doing, but that he was drawn in by these evil forces.

The only conclusion we can draw is that both football in general and the Cardinals in particular were created by these beings of the First World in order to harness energy from the people who become attached to the game.

-- But what about 1947? --

We’ve already established that there were powerful forces working to prevent the Cardinals from winning that championship. But win they did. So if our theory is correct - that the Cardinals were created so that beings from the First World could escape - we would see unexplainable things emerge from the southwest. Did anything unexplainable escape from the southwest in 1947? Yes. Something did.

It is remarkable that, after all the UFO encounters in 1947 and 1948, so many so-called ufologists became convinced, and spread the word, that these ships came from other planets. We must reject this theory. It is clear that these UFOs were an attempted breakout from the creatures of the darker first three worlds, escaping from beneath the American southwest thanks to the victory of the Cardinals in the 1947 NFL championship. Luckily, due to the relative unpopularity of both the NFL and of Phoenix at the time, they lacked the power to truly escape, and the benevolent beings of this world managed to take down the ships that did escape.

-- Conclusion --

With the enormous popularity of the NFL and the enormous population of Phoenix, if the Cardinals were to win again, the energy harvested by the First World would be too great, our guardian angels would be unable to prevent the creatures of the darker worlds from overwhelming us. They are hard at work trying to keep the Cardinals back, but these dark powers are still empowering the Cardinals to try and win.

*Atlanta, recovering from its burning at the hands of the Union armies, would also incorporate the phoenix into its imagery and its story. That one is more obvious.

**This became a bird through a long and winding road. Originally a noun meaning "that on which a thing depends", this became applied especially to door hinges. “Cardinal” then became an adjective meaning “primary” or “principal” - think cardinal numbers or cardinal directions. As the church grew up in the first few centuries AD, certain churches in a given city took on importance, and the priests in those churches became known as “cardinal priests”, aka the most important priest in a given place. The ‘priest’ part eventually got dropped, and these principal priests were simply called cardinals. As the church became more and more centralized, cardinal became an official position with an official dress. And through that dress, the shade of red that the cardinals dressed in became known as its own color, and many of the "Cardinal" teams in the US were originally named for this color, not for the bird. The Stanford Cardinal still keep the original name, for instance. The birds were of course named for their color.

-- TLDR --

The Arizona Cardinals are not just cursed, they are the means by which a civilization of evil primeval peoples will escape its confines and destroy the universe. Only by preventing them from winning the Super Bowl can we keep them at bay. James Harrison and Santonio Holmes are therefore the most important people in the history of the universe.
 
Cardinals owner Michael Bidwill apparently patching things and egos up...

Cardinals owner Michael Bidwell said he "loves" Kyler Murray and "knows he's going to get better."​

Saying your team's excellent dual-threat quarterback will "get better" is a bit of a backhanded compliment during a time of strife between Murray and the Cardinals organization. ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported this month that Murray is "frustrated" with the team after their humiliating Wild Card loss to the Rams. A team source told Mortensen that Murray is "self-centered, immature, and a finger pointer." Everything is fine. Bidwell this week said the team has had "good conversations nonstop" with Murray since the season ended. Happy or not, Murray will be back under center for Arizona in 2022, fresh off posting a career low interception rate and a career high TD rate and adjusted yards per attempt in 2021. Murray was fourth among all QBs in adjusted expected points added (EPA) per play before his Week 8 ankle injury.
SOURCE: Bob McManaman on Twitter
Feb 25, 2022, 10:27 AM ET
 

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Michael Bidwill continues to have faith in Kliff Kingsbury​

Posted by Charean Williams on February 25, 2022, 9:03 PM EST

Cardinals coach Kliff Kingsbury survived another disappointing finish after outside speculation the team might seek a change. Kingsbury has one year left on his contract with a fifth-year team option, so he obviously enters 2022 on the hot seat.

Owner Michael Bidwill used the term “bright future” several times during an interview with Arizona Sports 98.7 on Friday, including as it relates to Kingsbury.

“I look at the college coaches who have made the transition from college to the pros and the ones that are successful, and Kliff is,” Bidwill said, via Tyler Drake of Arizona Sports 98.7. “I feel like he’s had an adjustment period, had a few years to adjust and I feel like he’s going to get better and better because I feel like he understands the pro rules and the pro game and the pro speed and everything else much better than he did a couple of years ago.
“I think it’s very good. The conversations have continued to go on in the offseason and the last few weeks . . . and we’ve got a bright future together. Kliff, Kyler (Murray), Steve (Keim), all of us have to make great contributions as we go forward. I know they have a great relationship.”

The Cardinals were one of the best teams, if not the best team, in the NFL with a 7-0 start. But Kingsbury’s team did what Kingsbury’s teams have been prone to do. They finished with a thud.

The Cardinals finished 4-6 and then lost to the Rams in an ugly, non-competitive wild-card game.

Kingsbury’s teams are 42-20-1 in the first seven games of the season, dating to his first year at Texas Tech in 2013. But Kingsbury’s teams have finished 17-45 from Week 8 on.

Bidwill blamed this year’s collapse on injuries to All-Pro receiver DeAndre Hopkins and Murray. Hopkins played only 10 games, with his season ending in Week 14 with a torn MCL. Murray missed three games while rehabbing an ankle injury and didn’t play as well upon his return in Week 13.

“I think it’s a combination of things, certainly (Hopkins’) impact on the field and off the field is huge and losing him from not only a football Xs and Os standpoint but also from an emotional standpoint was big,” Bidwill said. “Kyler got injured for three games. He certainly — before the injury — was playing at the top of his game and then he came back. I think having a healthy Kyler Murray is always better than Kyler coming off of an injury.

“This team has a bright future and I’m excited about it, especially knowing those guys are coming back 100 percent.”
 
Imagine what you could get from a team if you traded Murray. Absolute fleece them for a guy that injuries are starting to effect him and he folds down the stretch.
 
Michael refuses to bid farewell to Murray.
 
GG.exe said:
Reddit link

Are the Arizona Cardinals cursed? An Investigation.​


The longest championship drought in professional American sports belongs to the Arizona Cardinals, who have gain the honor by virtue of having last won it all in 1947 (second place are the Cleveland Indians Commanders Guardians, who won the World Series a year later). When success is elusive for so long, people tend to look to more mystical reasons why their team is unable to win a championship, and so we have curses, real and fake. Most sports curses are fake and are readily explained by bad ownership and bad luck (“luck” being a catch-all term for coincidence and nothing more than that). But some are real, and while they can be broken, this requires a good deal of power. The most well-known American sports curse is probably the Billy Goat curse placed on the Chicago Cubs, where a man who was prevented from bringing his pet goat to Wrigley in 1945 cursed the team to never again win the NL pennant. This curse was finally broken in 2016, and if you don’t think that 2016 was a year full of dark magic then I don’t know what to tell you. Our goal today is to determine if the Cardinals are cursed, and if they are, how to break that curse.

-- The Pottsville Theory --

Most discussion of a Cardinals curse centers around the disputed championship in 1925 - one of only two that they won. There was no official Championship Game in 1925 - whoever had the best record at the end of the season was the champion. With the season coming to an end and the Cardinals tied for first place with the Pottsville Maroons, the Cardinals scheduled a game with the Milwaukee Badgers so that a champion could be determined. But the Badgers had run out of cash for the year and couldn’t afford to field their team, so one of the Cardinals players recruited a bunch of Milwaukee-area high schoolers to play for the Badgers. Unsurprisingly, the Cardinals crushed the high school team 58-0.

Pottsville had a similar-but-different strategy - rather than playing an out-of-cash pro team or a high school team, they scheduled a game against Notre Dame. Notre Dame had gone 7-2-1 that year and was easily one of the best teams in college football, but Pottsville won the game on a last-second field goal. This was actually a really big deal and helped to legitimize the NFL, which in 1925 was still trying to make a case for its own existence.

Faced with having to decide which of these was a legitimate victory, the NFL president annulled both results and fined the cardinals $1000, but then decided that because Notre Dame was in the territory of another NFL team, the Maroons had broken NFL rules in scheduling the game. The championship was therefore awarded to the Cardinals. Pottsville (home to Yuengling and presumably other things?) Is still mad about it.

So here is the Curse Theory: the Cardinals should not have been champions in 1925, and by unjustly claiming the championship, they have brought a curse upon themselves. This curse can only be lifted by returning the championship to Pottsville.

There are several problems with this. First, this wasn’t a unilateral decision by the Cardinals that they would be champions, it was a decision by the NFL. Second, this is not the only disputed NFL championship. Only four years earlier, the Decatur Staleys (now the Chicago Bears) stole a championship from Buffalo, and the Bears are decidedly not cursed - they’ve won many times since 1921 and I don’t think you’ll meet a single Bears fan who blames the current state of the team on a curse rather than incompetent ownership. And third and most importantly, the Cardinals did actually win a championship in 1947. Partisans of the Pottsville Curse like to point to an NFL vote in 1963 that cemented the Cardinals as 1925 champions, but again, this was a league-wide vote and it wasn’t particularly close. So let’s talk about that 1947 championship and see if we can find anything mystical.

-- 1947 --

Starting in 1933, the NFL moved to a championship-game system. And in 1947, the Cardinals played the Philadelphia Eagles for the championship. The Cardinals had started 1947 by paying an unprecedented amount of money for an all-star backfield, and went into the championship game as heavy favorites over Philadelphia. In addition to the talent, the 1947 title game had a couple other things going on that favored the Cardinals.

First, the game was played in Chicago, at the Cardinals home of Comiskey Park. And second, the report of the game in the Chicago Tribune mentions that the Eagles began the game wearing cleats, but the referees didn’t like the look of them, penalized the Eagles for “illegal equipment”, and made them change into basketball shoes instead. Despite these advantages, the Cardinals almost lost. They got six first downs the whole game and had an utterly anemic passing attack. Luckily, four of those first downs involved the million-dollar backfield avoiding tackles from the basketball-shoe clad defense. Cardinals scored four touchdowns on runs of 44 yards, 70 yards, 75 yards, and 70 yards. Eagles played a normal game and had a normal box score, scoring three touchdowns, but that wasn’t enough. Cardinals 28, Eagles 21. NFL champions.

Clearly, someone had their thumb on the scale for this game. The Cardinals should not have won, and given every advantage in the book barely managed to pull it out. Rather than this game disproving a curse, I think it actually supports the existence of one. But it also supports the existence of a powerful force supporting the Cardinals and trying its best to break them through.

So what to do with this? Is this really the result of the Pottsville game? Our firm answer is no. This goes much, much deeper.

-- Football and Arizona --

Football is obviously ingrained in the heart of America. But when we say that, we generally mean that football is the most popular sport, and speaks to the American desire to watch large men run into each other. But what if we mean that literally? That football, and these teams in particular, were always at the center of America, just waiting to be discovered? Then we could extrapolate to say that, although the Arizona Cardinals did not move to the Phoenix area until the late 80s, they were never not the Arizona Cardinals.

And with that principal in mind, we find a striking correlation between the development of the Cardinals, and football in particular, and the development of the Phoenix area.

Phoenix was first settled by Americans in 1867 when Jack Swilling, a Confederate veteran, saw the Salt River valley as a good place to grow food to sell to the miners in the west of the territory. The Official Story is that he named the area Phoenix because he noticed centuries-old canals that had long been abandoned by the native population, and described the area as a civilization rising from the ashes. One need only point to the year and Swilling’s Confederate service to surmise that he pictured a different civilization rising up from the ashes.* We will return to Swilling and his naming of Phoenix.

At the same time, in the more populated northeast, the first games of American football were being played, with the first official game played between Rutgers and Princeton less than two years later. The game quickly spread to the midwest, where it was enthusiastically taken up by the University of Chicago - whose mascot was, of course, the phoenix.

In 1881, the city of Phoenix was officially incorporated. In the same year, Christopher O’Brien was born in Chicago. O’Brien would go on to join an athletic club in the south side, where he would fall in love with football. Unable to play at a university, O’Brien instead transformed the athletic club into a real football team, and arranged games with other teams in the midwest. He bought old uniforms from the university, uniforms that were so faded that they were no longer maroon, but cardinal. And so the Cardinals got their name.

From these humble beginnings, both Phoenix and football grew far beyond anybody’s expectations. Both took off exponentially after the second world war, helped by the new inventions of air conditioning and television. And in 1987, the Cardinals moved to Phoenix, finally uniting the two.

-- What is an Arizona Cardinal? --

Although the logo on their helmets is a bird, the word “cardinal” originally meant “that on which a thing depends”**. Taking the widely accepted principal that Names Matter, the etymological definition of Arizona Cardinals is “the things on which Arizona depends”. But what could this be? To find out, let’s ask the original inhabitants.

“Arizona” likely comes from a Spanish version of an O’odham word for the region. The O’odham share a creation story with the other southwestern nations - Hopi, Navajo, Apache, Pueblo, etc. This story describes the people traveling through three worlds before reaching this world. Those three worlds were not nice places, and the people who escaped from them left behind creatures who desired only evil. But the people who escaped were aided by powerful beings.

What if this were true? Not all of it, of course, but we must recognize that all creation stories have Truth at their center. What if we accepted that there exist three other, darker worlds, beneath the American southwest? And within those darker worlds, beings that long to escape? If we do, then the story of the Arizona Cardinals begins to come into focus. The Cardinals are the thing on which Arizona hinges. Football only came into existence after the founding of Phoenix. The civilization that Swilling was drawn to, that he envisioned rising from the ashes, was neither an older Native society nor the Confederacy, but was the First World. It is likely that he didn’t know what he was doing, but that he was drawn in by these evil forces.

The only conclusion we can draw is that both football in general and the Cardinals in particular were created by these beings of the First World in order to harness energy from the people who become attached to the game.

-- But what about 1947? --

We’ve already established that there were powerful forces working to prevent the Cardinals from winning that championship. But win they did. So if our theory is correct - that the Cardinals were created so that beings from the First World could escape - we would see unexplainable things emerge from the southwest. Did anything unexplainable escape from the southwest in 1947? Yes. Something did.

It is remarkable that, after all the UFO encounters in 1947 and 1948, so many so-called ufologists became convinced, and spread the word, that these ships came from other planets. We must reject this theory. It is clear that these UFOs were an attempted breakout from the creatures of the darker first three worlds, escaping from beneath the American southwest thanks to the victory of the Cardinals in the 1947 NFL championship. Luckily, due to the relative unpopularity of both the NFL and of Phoenix at the time, they lacked the power to truly escape, and the benevolent beings of this world managed to take down the ships that did escape.

-- Conclusion --

With the enormous popularity of the NFL and the enormous population of Phoenix, if the Cardinals were to win again, the energy harvested by the First World would be too great, our guardian angels would be unable to prevent the creatures of the darker worlds from overwhelming us. They are hard at work trying to keep the Cardinals back, but these dark powers are still empowering the Cardinals to try and win.

*Atlanta, recovering from its burning at the hands of the Union armies, would also incorporate the phoenix into its imagery and its story. That one is more obvious.

**This became a bird through a long and winding road. Originally a noun meaning "that on which a thing depends", this became applied especially to door hinges. “Cardinal” then became an adjective meaning “primary” or “principal” - think cardinal numbers or cardinal directions. As the church grew up in the first few centuries AD, certain churches in a given city took on importance, and the priests in those churches became known as “cardinal priests”, aka the most important priest in a given place. The ‘priest’ part eventually got dropped, and these principal priests were simply called cardinals. As the church became more and more centralized, cardinal became an official position with an official dress. And through that dress, the shade of red that the cardinals dressed in became known as its own color, and many of the "Cardinal" teams in the US were originally named for this color, not for the bird. The Stanford Cardinal still keep the original name, for instance. The birds were of course named for their color.

-- TLDR --

The Arizona Cardinals are not just cursed, they are the means by which a civilization of evil primeval peoples will escape its confines and destroy the universe. Only by preventing them from winning the Super Bowl can we keep them at bay. James Harrison and Santonio Holmes are therefore the most important people in the history of the universe.
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There is an ESPN Daily podcast episode on the Pottsville Maroons, and the curse of the Cardinals

www.espn.com

ESPN Daily - Most Powerful Curse in the NFL? The 1925 Pottsville Maroons | ESPN

Extra, extra, read all about it! Maroons Championship STOLEN! The Pottsville Maroons were one of the greatest early NFL teams, but the league stripped them of their 1925 championship and gave it to the (then) Chicago Cardinals. Thus, a curse was born. Almost a century later, could the stolen...
www.espn.com www.espn.com
 
AJ_2000 said:
There is an ESPN Daily podcast episode on the Pottsville Maroons, and the curse of the Cardinals

www.espn.com

ESPN Daily - Most Powerful Curse in the NFL? The 1925 Pottsville Maroons | ESPN

Extra, extra, read all about it! Maroons Championship STOLEN! The Pottsville Maroons were one of the greatest early NFL teams, but the league stripped them of their 1925 championship and gave it to the (then) Chicago Cardinals. Thus, a curse was born. Almost a century later, could the stolen...
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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Nice episode.

The Bobby Layne curse is another strong one.
 

Kyler Murray sent contract proposal to Cardinals, asks team to speak with actions, not words​

Posted by Michael David Smith on February 28, 2022, 8:49 AM EST

Kyler Murray has let the Cardinals know exactly what he’s looking for: A new contract.

Murray’s agent, Erik Burkhardt, released a statement saying Murray wants a new deal and has gave the Cardinals “a detailed contract proposal” outlining exactly what he’s looking for. No details of the proposed contract were mentioned in the statement, but suffice to say Murray wants to be paid like an elite franchise quarterback.

“He absolutely wants to be your long term quarterback,” the statement said. “He desperately wants to win the Super Bowl.”

Murray has hinted that he isn’t happy with the Cardinals, and anonymous sources within the Cardinals have hinted to reporters that they’re not completely happy with Murray. But the statement says the best way for both sides to get on the same page is a new contract.

“Actions speak much louder than words in this volatile business,” the statement says. “It is now simply up to the Cardinals to decide if they prioritize their rapidly improving, 24-year-old, already 2x Pro Bowl QB, who led the organization from 3 wins before his arrival to 11-wins and their first playoff appearance in 5 years.”

Murray is heading into the fourth year of his five-year rookie contract in 2022, and the Cardinals will surely exercise the fifth-year option to keep him in 2023. Whether the two sides agree to a deal that extends well beyond that remains to be seen.
 
No way if I am the cardinals am I giving him a new long term deal until he proves his matured.

Worst franchise him twice once his current deals runs out.
 
The devil is in the detail on "comparable QB contracts" which I'd imagine to be $40m a year.

If he was asking for 25m-30m a year it would be a done deal.

But right now he wants the top of the market without delivering it all on field..... Kirk Cousins has a lot to answer for 😂
 
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