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Also, whilst we are at it, tell me about this cap of 150 days at sea a year as a maximum will you?

thats actually fairly true, unless as Power raid stipulated its a operational deployment which have for 2 of the past 3 rotations gone back to 9 months
 
yeah things have changed a bit, you will amazed how motivated the new kids are coming in and that has a good effect on some of the older longer serving ships company

there are still deadshits but its no where near 80%, probably the other way around

probably one of the real benefits of getting rid of the 20 year pension and people hanging around for the wrong reasons
 
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probably one of the real benefits of getting rid of the 20 pension and people hanging around for the wrong reasons


that would be a big factor, also I think in the late noughties onwards the ADF was able to be really picky about who joined and this has helped a lot

I was doing a fair bit of training 3 years ago and I was amazed how career motivated some of the kids are, **** me all I wanted to do is go up top and drink when i was their age
 

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actually there is a lot of ships company who meet the ship in different ports and leave halfway through deployments due to having to go on courses, postings etc

or simply on the way home we often send crew back early on "early leavers" leave so when we get back they can man the first few duty watches for the ship so other crew members can go on leave when we hit home port


i should stipulate that you normally do the entire deployment but for the above reasons there are a lot of "half-trippers"

also stores naval or as they as called now ML-SC are not really known for doing bulk sea time, you will do one year as a AB, one as a Leading hand , most of them dont want to leave the ship either but there are too many in the pipeline who need to do their sea time to advance
 
that would be a big factor, also I think in the late noughties onwards the ADF was able to be really picky about who joined and this has helped a lot

I was doing a fair bit of training 3 years ago and I was amazed how career motivated some of the kids are, **** me all I wanted to do is go up top and drink when i was their age

It probably didn't help that the navy bar would open at 10.15, 12, 2.15 and 3.30. The guys, especially the senior sailors, were half drunk all day and fully drunk at night.

That said most of my mates, whilst in, had different attitudes to life and have gone on to become extremely successful post service. One recently just sold his mining IT and hardware business in a multi million dollar deal and another who has stayed in the engineering field picked me up, for a night out, in his ferrari.

I truly believe the ADF had a massive input in the success of guys like this.
 
no I didn't go through Creswell but can confirm as part of my training as a recruiting officer post full time service, that I went to Creswell and interviewed both training staff and those going through the course. I've also served with officers who went through Creswell including good mates.

The ship that went stir crazy was HMAS Moresby which instead of pulling into Darwin had the AFP and military police flown out to investigate the event.

Post this event the cap of 150 days was put in place (other than operational activities).


Please feel free to engage in a less emotional manner.

no I didn't go through Creswell but can confirm as part of my training as a recruiting officer post full time service, that I went to Creswell and interviewed both training staff and those going through the course. I've also served with officers who went through Creswell including good mates.
I didn't think so Power Raid, theres no such things as a tea and scones type course for officers entry at Creswell. The NEOC course is 22-weeks of being totaly smashed 24/7 by the RANC staff.

The ship that went stir crazy was HMAS Moresby which instead of pulling into Darwin had the AFP and military police flown out to investigate the event.

The crew of Morsebsy never went crazy and threw a helicopter and millions in equipment over the side, another fabrication from you.

Post this event the cap of 150 days was put in place (other than operational activities).

Nice backtrack!

Please feel free to engage in a less emotional manner.

Don't ever try and hand out advise to any poster PR, you have history remember!
 
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yeah things have changed a bit, you will amazed how motivated the new kids are coming in and that has a good effect on some of the older longer serving ships company

there are still deadshits but its no where near 80%, probably the other way around

Yep the New Generation Navy has changed the Navy from the old salts who thought their entire existence was drinking and shagging in SE Asia.

Only recently I sat with a few birdies who are about to go away for 9-months on a deployment. These blokes had been in less than 10 years, but had already done multiple Persian gulf deployments, and were on their way to a rotation in the South China Sea. Their shore time was 2 days in ever 3-weeks, with everyone breathalised when they came back onboard.
 
that would be a big factor, also I think in the late noughties onwards the ADF was able to be really picky about who joined and this has helped a lot

I was doing a fair bit of training 3 years ago and I was amazed how career motivated some of the kids are, **** me all I wanted to do is go up top and drink when i was their age

Yep, the entire recruitment process can take 2+ years to go through, so you'd have to be pretty motivated to reach the end.

I notice a fair few uni-graduates or even mature (50+) applicants go through the NEOC course at Creswell. Many are highly skilled/qualifed such as surgeons wanting to apply their civy knowledge to the ADF.
 
I didn't think so Power Raid, theres no such things as a tea and scones type course for officers entry at Creswell. The NEOC course is 22-weeks of being totaly smashed 24/7 by the RANC staff.



The crew of Morsebsy never went crazy and threw a helicopter and millions in equipment over the side, another fabrication from you.



Nice backtrack!



Don't ever try and hand out advise to any poster PR, you have history remember!

why respond like your coming of a bad batch of meth?

why not just share a positive story about your time in the services? Like what ships or bases you were on? did you enjoy sea time? etc etc

also please note Cerberus is the pathway most relevant to this thread, given the job in question, rather than creswell.
 
Was looking at supply chain in the navy

I'm not married or partnered but I do have a kid

Looking at making a decision on this at the end of January

I joined as a 24 year old in 1992, there were a few older than me, including a handful in their 30s. For the most part, in an intake of 132, most were 20 or less.

IMO, if you're pretty settled as far as big drinking days etc etc, then you'll have a big headstart on all the young ones that are joining up and living out of home and being free for the first time in their lives. Most of them will piss their first few years up against the wall while you're getting good performance reviews / scores and moving up the ranks.

Once you finish recruit school and then category training, you have 12 months between Seaman and Able Seaman, 2 years mimimum between Able Seaman and Leading Seaman, 4 years minimum between Leading Seaman and Petty Officer, 4 years minimum between Petty Officer and Chief Petty Officer and then 4 years minimum between Chief Petty Officer and Warrant Officer.

I joined in Sept 92 and was promoted to Petty Officer in Dec 2000. 3 months longer than absolute minimum and that was only because of the promotion cycle. I put it down to joining when I was older.

I too joined as a storeman as it was the fastest way to get in. The job I actually wanted to do at the time, Survey Recorder (Hydrographic Survey these days I think) was an 18 month wait list, stores was 3 months.

My best advice I could give you is if you're going to join the Navy, start with something that has pretty short category training, stores will fit the bill nicely. Once you've been in for a bit, if there's a job you really like the look of and it's grabbed your interest, apply to transfer. I changed to EWL (Electronic Warfare Linguist) in 1998, it was basically an 18 month course. 6 months at Point Cook learning Indonesian and then just shy of a a year at Cabarlah (just north of Toowoomba) in Queensland learning the EW part of the job.

Whilst doing this training, I was on full pay as a storeman and I kept my rank and seniority. There was another ex-store's basher on the course with me and all of the rest were straight out of recruit school. They spent the best part of 2 years on recruit and then trainee's wages.

Hopefully if you get in and there is another job you like then it's one that is critically manned so there's a good chance they won't block you from changing.

I've been out since 2002 so by the looks of it there's some more recent posters in the thread. If you want Perth, the only way I could think of guaranteeing that is to do something in Submarines.
 
Im currently in the navy, as a medic

We had a 50 year join my ship as a SMNMT this year, so 30's is nothing especially as a storbie.

So, unless things have changed, as a SMNMT, that means he has started from absolute scratch?

When I joined we had 3 tradesmen that had already done apprenticeships, one was a chef and the other two were mechanics. Once they finished recruit school they basically did a bridging course of a few weeks and were Able Seaman.
 
So, unless things have changed, as a SMNMT, that means he has started from absolute scratch?

When I joined we had 3 tradesmen that had already done apprenticeships, one was a chef and the other two were mechanics. Once they finished recruit school they basically did a bridging course of a few weeks and were Able Seaman.


no we are still pinching heaps off people off the street still. Fridgys, boilers makers etc. They still do a bridging course dependent on their trade and skills, the ones I have seen this year have come in as SMN

We r*ped the Poms of a lot of their senior MTs when they started downsizing a decade ago as well. A lot of Chiefs , and PO's come across already on pensions , get busted back 1 rank but keep all their sea tiers
 

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Im currently in the navy, as a medic

We had a 50 year join my ship as a SMNMT this year, so 30's is nothing especially as a storbie.

I'm (strongly) considering joining the Navy (and crossing my fingers I end up at Cerberus) and having them pay for my Physio masters.
Obviously medic is a bit different to physio but I'm interested to know how much of your job is "Navy stuff" vs predominantly medical stuff (and I guess if you know what the ratio would be like for physio that'd be useful info as well).
 
I'm (strongly) considering joining the Navy (and crossing my fingers I end up at Cerberus) and having them pay for my Physio masters.
Obviously medic is a bit different to physio but I'm interested to know how much of your job is "Navy stuff" vs predominantly medical stuff (and I guess if you know what the ratio would be like for physio that'd be useful info as well).

I dare say physio would still be outsourced.

In terms of paying for education, you will hear very different things from different people.

I often heard it was hard but loads of people do it. I dare say having a supportive divisional officer is the difference.
 
I didn't think so Power Raid, theres no such things as a tea and scones type course for officers entry at Creswell. The NEOC course is 22-weeks of being totaly smashed 24/7 by the RANC staff.



The crew of Morsebsy never went crazy and threw a helicopter and millions in equipment over the side, another fabrication from you.



Nice backtrack!



Don't ever try and hand out advise to any poster PR, you have history remember!

OK

How about explaining why the ADF rejected your application to join then?
 

Given you haven’t served in the ADF

What role in the ADF did you apply for and why was your application not accepted?
 
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I'm (strongly) considering joining the Navy (and crossing my fingers I end up at Cerberus) and having them pay for my Physio masters.
Obviously medic is a bit different to physio but I'm interested to know how much of your job is "Navy stuff" vs predominantly medical stuff (and I guess if you know what the ratio would be like for physio that'd be useful info as well).

to be honest hardly ever, unless Im deadset in the middle of the ocean and I give out some sports medicine advice until we get back in to port .most of my issues are acute pre-hospital care injuries where I MEDEVAC them off or simple clinical "coughs,colds and sore holes" . If people needed extended physio they wouldn't be fit for sea and on my ship.

I do a little bit of strapping for sports events but that's as far as my my physio skill go. when we are ashore if people need to go to a physio at our health centres they just self refer. all our physios are non uniform too (civilian)

the army however do have uniformed physios .......that might be a better bet, most of them are posted to brisbane from memory

hopefully this helps

edit:in saying all of the above if you are in the navy as a medic and can prove that the higher education that you are seeking to complete will be a asset to the navy/helpful in your job they may approve it
 
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Given you haven’t served in the ADF

What role in the ADF did you apply for and why was your application not accepted?
WTF are you going on about in this thread PR?

I see you're attempting to trash another thread with posts that are totally irrelevant to the content, something you have been warned by other poster including Ratts of Tobruk and CM86 to name afew. You were also give a thread by the Moderators, if you want to continually drag a thread of its intended path, then use this one below specifically developed by the Mods for this purpose.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/ratts-and-power-raid-post-your-feud-stuff-here.1136186/
 
Decided against it
Pity, but to each there own. I am currently in the middle of assisting a neighbours son in joining the RAN, he was looking at a medic role but they aren't currently recruiting, and he doesn't have a degree and isn't inclided to go for one so the Commisioned roles are out.
 
Pity, but to each there own. I am currently in the middle of assisting a neighbours son in joining the RAN, he was looking at a medic role but they aren't currently recruiting, and he doesn't have a degree and isn't inclided to go for one so the Commisioned roles are out.

Does he have any clue what rate he wants to be or are you advising him on some v others?
 
WTF are you going on about in this thread PR?

I see you're attempting to trash another thread with posts that are totally irrelevant to the content, something you have been warned by other poster including Ratts of Tobruk and CM86 to name afew. You were also give a thread by the Moderators, if you want to continually drag a thread of its intended path, then use this one below specifically developed by the Mods for this purpose.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/ratts-and-power-raid-post-your-feud-stuff-here.1136186/

nice try. go back through the thread and take a look at your posts derailing discussions. You seemed obsessed with being focused on the man and not the ball.

further you raised the topic of creswell, which is as you should know has nothing to do with a the job being discussed. Absolutely nothing given the job would have seen him apply as a general entry recruit, with very different applicants in terms of education and age than crewsell.

Its a fairly simply question even for you Power Raid, Have you done the NEOC course or done any sort of officers course at Creswell?

Addtionaly, tell me on what ship went stir crazy, through the helicopter over the side along with millions of dollars of equipment will you?

Also, whilst we are at it, tell me about this cap of 150 days at sea a year as a maximum will you?

then we find out you have never served

why was your application to the ADF was rejected? care to share?

the reason why I ask, is the answer would probably explain your conduct in the thread
 
Does he have any clue what rate he wants to be or are you advising him on some v others?
He doesn't, Ive sat down and run him through the various rates in the RAN, he has an interest in being a medic, but that that looks likes its not taking any applicants. Strangely they RAN has just done a massive Nursing Dr recruitment drive, but not medics; the category must be full.

He has a few different jobs he'd like to do, iíi just assist him with his choice and provide him some advice on each one.
 

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