As per Appleyard's request: New Thread - Religion sucks.

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people who believe in god are deluded. doesn't make them bad necessarily just deluded and misguided. of those who believe in god and are therefore deluded there are a percentage of wackers that give religion a bad name.
 

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Deej said:
people who believe in god are deluded. doesn't make them bad necessarily just deluded and misguided. of those who believe in god and are therefore deluded there are a percentage of wackers that give religion a bad name.
How are religious people more or less deluded than say people who think:

- all matter magically appeared out of an infinitely small point of nothingness;
- has the capability to completely collapse into that point again;
- supposedly has a whole bunch of ghost like dark matter within it which no one can see or measure;
- is comprised of "particles" which are just a term for a point which actually has no mass if it isn't moving and doesn't technically exist;
- has particles moving in and out of the Universe at random with no reason as to why or where from;
- has four fundamental forces, again for no apparant reason;
- all particles are connected together via giant vibrating strings.

Now whilst I believe that all of the above is generally true about the Universe, I'm not deluded enough to think I know everything there is to know about reality! The evidence dictates that "reality" from a non-religious point of view, is more flexible than anyone could have imagined!

As for "religious wackers" I'd put my left nut on their being more "aethiest wackers" in this world!!
 

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*looks around for the castration knife.*
I doubt very much that the majority of burglars, drug addicts, murderers etc. etc., have much to do with religion, other than what any general atheist has been exposed to.

I think these people far outweigh the amount of "extremeists" within organised religions.
 
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Maybe nothing is REAL including us .We might just be part of a massive reality game like the Matrix.
I think it is just as plausible as any of the dogmas of the organised business religions that people want to believe in.
 

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How are religious people more or less deluded than say people who think:

- all matter magically appeared out of an infinitely small point of nothingness;
- has the capability to completely collapse into that point again;
- supposedly has a whole bunch of ghost like dark matter within it which no one can see or measure;
- is comprised of "particles" which are just a term for a point which actually has no mass if it isn't moving and doesn't technically exist;
- has particles moving in and out of the Universe at random with no reason as to why or where from;
- has four fundamental forces, again for no apparant reason;
- all particles are connected together via giant vibrating strings.

Now whilst I believe that all of the above is generally true about the Universe,
Haha, is this the example of logical arguments from Christians? I'll sum it up as "People who believe in ... are deluded, I believe in those things, but I am not deluded."

So funny, makes no sense.
 

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Maybe nothing is REAL including us .We might just be part of a massive reality game like the Matrix.
I think it is just as plausible as any of the dogmas of the organised business religions that people want to believe in.
Remember that The Matrix is a rip of of long held Buddhist and Gnostic phillosophies!

It's funny how literally everyone when watching that movie wants Neo to take the Red Pill, so that he might be availed of the unknown "real truth" nd no-one want him to take the Blue Pill, which allows his life to continue as is.

Yet we're presented with that very scenario every single day and 99.9% of people chose the Blue Pill (myself included to this stage), over the Red Pill (which is Enlightenment)!
 

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Perhaps we need a new thread for single-testicled people who don't understand physics.



They tried that in India and had 500 posters. They were referred to as "The Indian Knackerless 500"!
 

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Haha, is this the example of logical arguments from Christians? I'll sum it up as "People who believe in ... are deluded, I believe in those things, but I am not deluded."

So funny, makes no sense.
I'm not Christian.

I'm was merely trying to point out the almost "non-reality" of reality if considered from a scientific perspective.

I find it as disturbing for scientific minded people to exclude the possibility of God, as it is for religious folk to stand behind religious documents and spread hate. Eitherway, it's all negative sentiment.
 

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FIGJAM said:
I'm not Christian.

I'm was merely trying to point out the almost "non-reality" of reality if considered from a scientific perspective.

I find it as disturbing for scientific minded people to exclude the possibility of God, as it is for religious folk to stand behind religious documents and spread hate. Eitherway, it's all negative sentiment.

From what I have seen - most scientific people dont exclude the possibility of god - they just dont use god as a fal back position.

If they dont know something, they will say "we dont know".

At worst - they will just ignore god, in favour for more practical considerations.
 
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