No Oppo Supporters ASAGA - The Final Chapter - Appeal Dismissed (Page 12) - The End

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Using devils advocate as an excuse to spew your bile is pissweak, pure and simple
If you want the answer then someone has to ask the question, and someone (producers?) obviously wanted the answer. Might even be that Murphy stipulated that he wanted the opportunity to say that... or the AFL, or the chairman of the Bulldogs...
 

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They've outdone even us in welcoming Crameri there.

The Bulldogs culture that they have going on at the moment is miles better than the other clubs.

It seems that the players really enjoy being there. They seem like one big happy family that support each other, even in tough times. It is no wonder that they are in a prelim after such a tough year with injuries. Could have shut up shop with an away EF in Perth and no one would have batted an eyelid.

Just look at the difference between them and the other clubs with players involved in the saga.
Bulldogs have publicly supported their players all along. They have accommodated them and even sought legal advice for them.

Meanwhile, Port and St Kilda (especially Port and Kochie) see them as Essendon's problem.

I would absolutely enjoy having Bulldogs win this year. That would be one of the best footy stories in history
 
They've outdone even us in welcoming Crameri there.

The Bulldogs culture that they have going on at the moment is miles better than the other clubs.

It seems that the players really enjoy being there. They seem like one big happy family that support each other, even in tough times. It is no wonder that they are in a prelim after such a tough year with injuries. Could have shut up shop with an away EF in Perth and no one would have batted an eyelid.

Just look at the difference between them and the other clubs with players involved in the saga.
Bulldogs have publicly supported their players all along. They have accommodated them and even sought legal advice for them.

Meanwhile, Port and St Kilda (especially Port and Kochie) see them as Essendon's problem.

I would absolutely enjoy having Bulldogs win this year. That would be one of the best footy stories in history
I think it's interesting that, as a lawyer, Peter Gordon has been so vocal in his condemnation of the process that the Essendon 34 have had to endure. The interview where he described the nature of the appeal to the Swiss Fed Ct, where he said that the grounds of appeal were so narrow because that is all the process allowed (and if it had allowed then the appeal would have included wider grounds (eg an appeal on the facts) was telling. It's clear from what Murphy said that the Dogs are aware of the injustice of the situation, hence the support for Crameri. Good on Gordon, Murphy and the Doggies. A club with heart.
 
Re the Bulldogs this is now - before they had Crameri Peter Gordon didn't support Essendon or the players at all. At the presidents meeting he amongst others advocated the afl actions in punishing EFC which started this mess.

Gordon was the spokesperson the one who had to front the media - Nothing to do with his thoughts - And that meeting was referring to AFL punishments which is nothing to do with ASADA/WADA/CAS.
 
Re the Bulldogs this is now - before they had Crameri Peter Gordon didn't support Essendon or the players at all. At the presidents meeting he amongst others advocated the afl actions in punishing EFC which started this mess.
It didn't start the mess, it was just one bit of the larger picture.
 
Re the Bulldogs this is now - before they had Crameri Peter Gordon didn't support Essendon or the players at all. At the presidents meeting he amongst others advocated the afl actions in punishing EFC which started this mess.
Until they had Crameri they were outside the saga. Once he became one of theirs, he was involved. Unsurprising he then saw it from the insider's point of view.
 

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Bob Murphy, good bloke.
Actually, a few people from the Bulldogs have given some great support for the Essendon players, including their President and coach.
Another reason to barrack for them in the next few weeks.
From memory their president tried to get Crameri to roll over on the other players and take a deal.
His compassion for the players stems solely from having Crameri on his roster
 

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What. A. Flog.
What an absolute ****head.

Symptom of the Olympic way of thinking.

You couldn't even have a conversation with him about how no players were actually found to have taken the substance they were accused of, it was all based on may haves and could ofs.

As soon as they see a possible infringement they close off and you cant change that thinking.

These are the same people who have said that they couldn't enjoy an Olympic event because they don't know if the guy/girl who won wasn't doping. Bunch of paranoid people.
 

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From his twitter picture, Dave Culbert appears to have a full grill of baby teeth, therefore his argument is invalid
 

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Gordon was the spokesperson the one who had to front the media - Nothing to do with his thoughts - And that meeting was referring to AFL punishments which is nothing to do with ASADA/WADA/CAS.

The AFL punishments are very relevant - did we all expect the anti doping bodies to standby and watch an organisation (afl) punish a club for anti-doping issues (fairly or unfairly) and then let the strict liability for players be swept under the carpet? Under WADA code you can't have one without the other and this governance stuff was nonsense.
 
I understand he is at the paralympics in some capacity, but who is he?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Culbert
Dave Culbert
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David ("Dave") Thomas Culbert (born 17 March 1967 in Sydney) is a former international track and field athlete. In an international long jump career that spanned ten years, he won two Commonwealth Games silver medals in 1990 and 1994[1] and also made finals at the 1992 Olympics.[2]

Since his retirement, he has established himself as Australia's track and field commentator working with Channel 7 and SBS as well as various radio stations. In 2004 and 2005 he hosted a Sunday morning discussion show, The Insiders on Melbourne station SEN 1116.

In his role as a commentator, he has called Athletics at the 2000, 2004 and 2008 Olympic Games, 1998 and 2002 and 2006 Commonwealth Games and the past five World Athletics Championships.

He has also held the role of reporter/producer on Channel Seven programs Talking Footy, The Olympic Show and Sportsworld.

Culbert runs a sports media, promotion and marketing firm called Jump Media and has clients including Athletics Australia and the Australian Commonwealth Games Association.

He has worked on projects for Hockey Australia, the International Triathlon Union and Gymnastics Australia.
 
A sanitised wikipedia page ? Of course it doesn't state that he organises events/tours for the IAAF and the UCI and its offshoots - Athletics and cycling lead the pack when it comes to doping - Take money from these organisations but continue parroting about drug cheats - Doubt Culbert has a principled bone in his body.
 
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