Religion Ask a Christian - Part 2

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Respect what people believe that is true for them.
Don't bicker with them because they don't have your insights/slants/intellect.
If believers live as truly to their belief systems and it does not impact you and yours, what does it matter?
We do not believe or hang on every single word of the Bible verbatim, but that does not mean we don't know the Bible or read it, and it would be appreciated if could stop telling us to read it again or properly- that is insulting, not needed, and reflects on you, not us.
Did you respect the belief systems of the countries you guys invaded? and the belief systems of native peoples/cultures? No cause everyone was inferior to you lot. History hasn't taught you a thing. Prior to the Age of Enlightenment, Christianity was just as brutal as Islam is, today.
 

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Did you respect the belief systems of the countries you guys invaded? and the belief systems of native peoples/cultures? No cause everyone was inferior to you lot. History hasn't taught you a thing. Prior to the Age of Enlightenment, Christianity was just as brutal as Islam is, today.
You have a lot of gripes on this thread. Whether these issues really worry you in real life is unknown, but as you said Age of Enlightenment. Let's live in peace.
 

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You have a lot of gripes on this thread. Whether these issues really worry you in real life is unknown, but as you said Age of Enlightenment. Let's live in peace.
Why do i have respect such a belief system which calls unbelievers evil? but you ask unbelievers to respect this? would you respect me if i called you a ******** ?

I have no gripes, just the truth, history is for everyone to read. I come from a family where you lot shot one of us cause we didn't want conversion. But we need to respect that! Yeh, nah!

My life is awesome, free from fairy tales/organised religion and other cults, thanks for caring.
 

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Found that 'ignore' or 'report' button yet?

The first part of you post, was also in transgression to the commandments of big footy. Once again, it will need to be reported, and you will need to quote the website you copied it from.

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The first part of you post, was also in transgression to the commandments of big footy. Once again, it will need to be reported, and you will need to quote the website you copied it from.

You go for it.

Can you see the report button? (bottom left corner). You click on that.

And how's your search for the 'ignore' button going ? Seeing you weren't going to ...what was it again?..."engage in conversation" with me.
 

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You go for it.

Can you see the report button? (bottom left corner). You click on that.

And how's your search for the 'ignore' button going ? Seeing you weren't going to ...what was it again?..."engage in conversation" with me.

I will not be reporting your infringement to the relevant websites you copied from. Please quote your sources next time, have a good weekend.
 

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People have been blaspheming?
A victimless crime, in the hope of protecting an all powerful force from bad bad words, pathetic!
Jesus was an inbred and his old man was a pedo.
Feels good to hurt the feel feels of fools and cult members!
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LOL holy crap! Wiki to the rescue, why leave the next paragraph out? Isaiah DIDN'T speak to the Gentiles. It states that whoever authored these Servant Songs believed that God had commissioned them to be the light to the Gentiles. Like personification of Israel, as below. BECAUSE Israel suffered so long in the hands of so many, The Messiah is supposed to come and FREE the Jews from oppressors.

"But you, O Israel, My servant, Jacob, you whom I have chosen, offspring of Abraham who loved Me...and to whom I shall say: 'You are my servant' - I have chosen you and not rejected you." (Isaiah 41:8-9)
"But hear now Jacob, My servant, and Israel whom I have chosen!" (Isaiah 44:1)
"Remember these things, Jacob and Israel, for you are My servant: I fashioned you to be My servant: Israel do not forget Me!" (Isaiah 44:21)
"..for the sake of My servant Jacob and Israel, My chosen one: I have proclaimed you by name..." (Isaiah 45:4)
"...say, 'Hashem (God) has redeemed His servant Jacob." (Isaiah 48:20)
"...You are my servant, Israel, in whom I take glory." (Isaiah 49:3)



It's true cause Christians said it's true? how many times would you and your bullshit sources want to be proven wrong? Of course Christians want it to be true, Mark desperately looked at Isiah for prophecies.

Even 20th century Christian New English Bible – Oxford Study Edition (annotation on Isaiah 52:13-53:12) clearly identifies the Suffering Servant as the nation of Israel which “has suffered as a humiliated individual.

For once, use your brain! FOR ONCE! Reverse engineering verses is not cool. So was/is Israel liberated and Jews were liberated and suffering ended? That was the Messiah's main job.

FAIL!

QUOTE YOUR SOURCES PLEASE.




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I recall reading atheist poster/s in here taking what appeared to be serious offence to a suggestion made by a creationist/s, that atheists don’t know how to/can’t love. Given creationists put up with what is arguably sustained coordinated pattern of ridicule, at times more: in comparison, that was a warm-butter-like melt from atheist poster/s. So in the scenario you painted, the world might possibly resemble something similar to that?

yes i agree....it seems people are pretty much the same whatever their religion or lack of....
 

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It is a paradigm shift from the OT. Very liberating, but it would not be without knowledge of the OT.
THANKS FOR THE ADVICE, BUT THIS KNOWLEDGE IS INDELIBLY IMPRINTED IN MY MIND ALREADY.

i'm sure you dont miss my point.... incredibly so called evangelicals and born-agains are going straight to the old testament and never coming up for air
 

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I think South Park came pretty close to suggesting this. “And the correct answer is…. THE MORMONS!!”

well he did tweak the chosen people religion into something a bit more embracing.... and then tweaked it so the mormons could believe that jesus jetted to the USA... evidently there is some tweaking and merging occurring in african countries....and the caribbean, he tweaked it with voodoo to make it more user friendly to the locals...

it reminds me of how macdonalds has tweaked its religion for the locals .....maccas...
 

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I will not be reporting your infringement to the relevant websites you copied from.

:rolleyes:

Of course you won't. Just bluster and hot air from you. Deflection when you don't have an argument.

Have you found the 'report' button for this website yet?

Please quote your sources next time, have a good weekend.

I'll quote what I want, how I want, irrespective of what you want.

Found the 'ignore' button yet?
 
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i'm sure you dont miss my point.... incredibly so called evangelicals and born-agains are going straight to the old testament and never coming up for air
Not really. They read all the Bible- it's all worthwhile, and reading the NT in light of the OT is great, but also vice versa.
I have read it through multiple times.
If I read it now as frequently as I waste time here, it would be good for my soul,and likely for all you guys if I spent less time here
 

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Not really. They read all the Bible- it's all worthwhile, and reading the NT in light of the OT is great, but also vice versa.
I have read it through multiple times.
If I read it now as frequently as I waste time here, it would be good for my soul,and likely for all you guys if I spent less time here
The Jewish book is great?
FMD
It’s the most evil degenerate book on the planet, closely followed by the bible and the quran!
 

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Not really. They read all the Bible- it's all worthwhile, and reading the NT in light of the OT is great, but also vice versa.
I have read it through multiple times.
If I read it now as frequently as I waste time here, it would be good for my soul,and likely for all you guys if I spent less time here

You have read it with your heart and not brain. So tell me again what Jesus meant when he said BEFORE Abraham was, I am. So i'll give you whatever light you need, in what light do you think smashing an infant's skull with stone 'Godly'? whatever light you need VD, whatever context you need, take your time. Literal or parables, whatever!
 
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Not really. They read all the Bible- it's all worthwhile, and reading the NT in light of the OT is great, but also vice versa.
I have read it through multiple times.
If I read it now as frequently as I waste time here, it would be good for my soul,and likely for all you guys if I spent less time here

I can see your point again.... I should give up internet video porn and get my fix reading the sexy stuff in the OT... it's old school but it would probably encourage my visualisation skills rather than having it served up to me via video.
 

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You differentiate between the OT and the Bible?
I don't , you do. One God, remember? apparently it doesn't suit you at times and you resort to 'but but but but Jesus said....'. He is the God of Abraham, NT is quite clear on that, Gospel authors (specially John), stressed on it multiple times that he is the same God of OT. Yeah take the good parts and disown all the shitty parts, suits you.
 

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I don't , you do. One God, remember? apparently it doesn't suit you at times and you resort to 'but but but but Jesus said....'. He is the God of Abraham, NT is quite clear on that, Gospel authors (specially John), stressed on it multiple times that he is the same God of OT. Yeah take the good parts and disown all the shitty parts, suits you.
You are projecting. I have said all along there is no NT w/o the OT.
The Bible is OT+NT.
God is God, the Creator of all things.
As I said, call Him whatever, but God is God.
Jesus is a NT Human version of God for our benefit.
You know all this but you insist on semantics
 

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You are projecting. I have said all along there is no NT w/o the OT.
The Bible is OT+NT.
God is God, the Creator of all things.
As I said, call Him whatever, but God is God.
Jesus is a NT Human version of God for our benefit.
You know all this but you insist on semantics

So Jesus is YWH in human form? just a yes or a no will do.
 

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Yes, if Yahweh refers to God
He is. From wiki:

This name is not attested other than among the Israelites and seems not to have any plausible etymology.[17] Ehye ašer ehye ("I Am that I Am"), the explanation presented in Exodus 3:14

Jesus said in John, Before Abraham was, I AM! He is YWH! It took you so long to admit that.
 

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He is. From wiki:

This name is not attested other than among the Israelites and seems not to have any plausible etymology.[17] Ehye ašer ehye ("I Am that I Am"), the explanation presented in Exodus 3:14

Jesus said in John, Before Abraham was, I AM! He is YWH! It took you so long to admit that.
Moot point.
Yahweh is hardly referred to in NT as it was not written in Hebrew, but in Greek.
I say all along that Jesus is God (Yahweh if you insist) in human form.
 

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