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This is not what Jesus says, Jesus says APART FROM SEXUALITY IMMORALITY, you must not divorce! do you don't believe in Jesus' words?
And why there is only one grounds for divorce?
Are these grounds for divorce?
1. Abusive relationship
2. Mental harassment
3. Different choices in life
4. Domestic violence
5. Gluttony
etc etc.
Name one person who marries to get divorced? NO ONE. Things happen life isn't black and white as your God thinks it is. It's a book written my ancient clan of goat herders for naive people. Otherwise how does ANYONE have such a simple black and white view of life? no one wants to divorce the person they are marrying NO ONE. But sometimes people need to part ways, for the betterment and mental health. What Jesus is suggesting anyone needs to stay with their husband/wife and remain unhappy cause it's a sin?
So you also admit Christians are the number 1 adulterers worldwide? Christians are by far leading the divorce race worldwide by a fair margin.
As i said, fruit and tree! Along with genocide, it's not a pretty picture for you Christians. Jesus came and failed, 2000 years and he ain't coming back seeing what you lot did in his name.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
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We had this argument before, can you come up with possible explanation outside of mental health (which is more prevalent amongst the religious than atheists actually) argument. How are we fallen? we are living in the most peaceful period in Human history. Shouting at me, is not going to change this fact, you are yet to put up a decent argument on why i am wrong. (As usual!!!!)
Yes we have more ways to kill, but your God and Christians top that list, so why pick on us? even though we have more ways to kill, we haven't killed and we are living in the most peaceful period ever in human history, this is science and history. You are going to deny history now? The period since WW2 till now has been by a fair margin the most peaceful period in human history..FACT!
Well lets ask the Caananites ...opps they are all dead, wiped off!
Is Scandinavia not the ideal society for everyone? how is it possible then for a godless society? i am a citizen, i would rather live here than Brazil, you would too. You would live in Australia ahead of Nigeria , so godless ahead of faithful. Australia/Scandinvia tops the list of the best places to live on earth, you think this is a coincidence. Why don't you then, go live in one of the more religious countries? South America, Africa? Middle east (oh wait..false god lmao!)
Christianity has been brutal, thoughout history, so brutal that you needed reformation which Islam needs now.
For example" The Carolingian conquest of the Saxons wasn’t entirely about conversion. But forced conversion & the threat of violence were widely employed.
Pagan shrines were burned or ton town. Christian conversion was made mandatory. Charlemagne even issued a law that made refusal to be baptized punishable by death.
The Capitulatio de partibus Saxoniae:
Imagine that now, if there are atheists or Hindus, they will be punished to death..yep this is what you want. This is your history into England, don't like it? well that's how your heathens rolled back then.
If you think you are right, name a period (lets say 50 years) which has been more peaceful than the last 50 year, i dare ya! Put up or shut up! all this 'turning your back on god' blah blah blah, those are your arguments, not anyone else, where is the evidence? lets see a few evidence how we are worse off than 500 years ago. Lets start, VD. I will have fun chopping you in pieces, again!
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There are only 18 manuscripts from the 2nd century as a Christian source, out of 16,500! yes ONLY EIGHTEEN. Rest were lost or burnt in war, the church made it up, i highly recommend Bert Ehrmans 'Misquoting Jesus'
These are all partial fragments, and the dating is in dispute. But 18 manuscripts is the BEST CASE scenario for manuscripts dating to within 200 years of Jesus supposed birth. And again, these are partial.
Bart Ehrman - Misquoting Jesus : Bart Ehrman : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
Bart D. Ehrman - Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed The Bible and Why
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Washington times did a review here
For a man who believed the Bible was the inspired Word of God, Ehrman sought the true originals to shore up his faith. The problem: There are no original manuscripts of the Gospels, of any of the New Testament.
Sounds exactly like me, hardcore believer, wanting to checkup on the authenticity, finds it's full of s**t!
None of the Xtians actually care about this, nonetheless if people are critical and wish to know why the Bible isn't what it says it is, it's a great read. Most of the readers appreciated and many were surprisingly enlightened, look it up on Amazon, 4.5 stars out of 5 from over 1,500 reviews.
Jesus may or may not have existed, but very little remain in the Bible of who he actually was and what he actually preached. I am sure Vdubs doesn't give 2 hoots about this, cause you know 2b people etc etc. This IS THE greatest con in human history.
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And if the Easter Bunny brings chocolate eggs to some of us, then there is hope that all of us will get them
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No, only lunatics like you are
Its like saying "If there was no god, then who's slave would I be"?
We have evolved for 4 billion years, some are left behind...unfortunately.
I am very surprised he didn't ask the question, if we evolved from monkey's why are there monkeys, that's the only thing that's stopping him from going full *.
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Interesting about the message and what that could be?
No disrespect to anyone, I don’t think it would be that hard to be profound in this thread, a lot of the posts are people dealing with their own junk, atheists who believe something came from nothing and trolls. Lot of tail not much head.
I appreciate your posts and others and would be good to up the post count of what Jesus has done in our lives, pray for people’s situation and celebrate the miracle of each day in Gods magnificent creation.
This physical realm could be Heaven and Gods vision for Earth is Eden and that is where I put most of my focus.
If anyone needs prayer, please ask, that is all I have, humble prayers and a testimony of what Jesus has done in my life.
Amazing how non believers blame God for everything and then claim he doesn’t exist or that we live in a secular society, thus saying that science/reason/logic is the new god, yet somehow Jesus/God is responsible. We have free will, God is good. Why is Jesus a cuss word?
I have been paid out at work in group settings for my beliefs, but those same people one on one, say that when the crap hits the fan, they pray. Why wait for your deathbed or when things are at their lowest to cry out to Jesus/God. Do it today, receive new eyes and ears.
I await the evidence of a simple weed/annual grass being created by man, that produces viable seed, come on atheists, show me the man made chicken egg that can produce another chicken.
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Do you believe what you post?
Victoria- Last year 6 month lockdown, weapons of war have been turned against us. We could be locked up within 12 hours notice,
I can see why people abuse you, you are an idiot.
How many died in Australia? * all, how many dying in India? in Europe?
Do you even know the history diseases? entire population been wiped out before. How many did the Black Plague kill?
Do you even know what 'peace' is? i don't thin you do.
Look up in a godless country, Sweden, no lockdowns and much less deaths.
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Slogans again.
So you don’t worship anything?
Money, job, cars, house, people, footy team, they are all forms of worship.
LOL who worships their footy team? or car, or house? you are mentally deranged. Do you understand the difference between 'barracking' and worshipping? i can live without footy, i have done that, i can live without my house, i can live without everything that you mentioned.
The only thing i can't live without is my family, but your Fuhrer said love me and hate your parents and your family.
I worship nothing, no one! you are a slave, doesn't mean everyone is.
Fuhrer is apt for you, replace Adolf with Jesus (although he never existed but he exists in your brain)
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You forgot one, you worship yourself
My interpretation, Jesus was saying don’t put your family above God, as you shall have no other Gods before me.
Uh no, but fail good try though, Jesus used the word HATE....not love me first. Do you want me to post the full verse for you?
LOL and i dont worship myself. You think meditation is worshipping, you are actually a fraud who doesn't understand what meditation is, it's actually dissolution of 'self', you wouldn't have a clue what that is.
You are struggling big time here and i can see why people pay you out, you post a lot of nonsense
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Pot kettle, all you’ve proven in the past few pages is Godwin’s law and that you worship idols
I worship no one! idols for people like you, who believe in deities. I believe in nothing, how can i worship something that doesn't exist? I believe in myself, cause i EXIST, i don't worship myself, you are just desperate to clutch a straw right now, slave boy.
Do you wanna quote Bible again so that i can pull your pants down for the 4th time in this thread?
Go ask your Fuhrer, he will tell you.
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You believe in yourself and not God, you’ve just broken the second commandment.
How did something come from nothing?
Where is the man made seed that will produce a simple weed? Answer this
All you do is react to my posts, you are the tail and not the head.
Where does science say, there was nothing. Can you point it out? you are the one asserting something came from nothing, can you tell me what nothing is?
You are making up s**t as you go, this will end up in a train wreck like your last Bible quote LOL
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he is not, he is spot on here
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SIN. Jesus accepts you despite sin, and it is forgiven if there is genuine repentance and turning to him.. There are ramifications of all sin in this world, adultery included, and divorce always leaves some scarring. Everything you are on about here is sin. You can't see the bark from the tree.
Can’t deny evolution. Embrace your intelligence and give your 5 senses a rest.
That was a good post. It's hardly conclusive though.
Plenty of politicians start talking about god when they are chasing influence/votes.
If fact as soon as the Nazis got power, things changed for the catholics pretty quickly.
You don't believe in Santa?
Let me tell you, when I send the kids to bed on Christmas Eve, eat the biscuits they left out and then put the presents under the tree, Santa is real GP.
Santa is real.
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Utter nonsense. Try living off god without a job, money or car if you really believe that.
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That goes to show how gullible theists are. They'll go as far as following Hitler if he says the right churchy speak. Look at the way Trump used religion to find his way to power with the support of fundie Christians.
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