WikiLeaks Assange

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Procrastinator35 said:
Assange hasn't 'stolen' anything....He merely publishes what comes to hand.

What our corrupted authorities are attempting to silence here, is the freedom of the press to disclose information of public interest here & by it, freedom of speech.

A Democracy is marked by transparency, open-ness & freedom of information....what all these 'intel agencies' & 'that's classified' nonsense represent, is in fact the complete & utter repudiation of those democratic principles.

They are in fact the cover-up squads for the multi-nationals dirty deeds, from which to hide from the public all their nefarious doings behind the scenes....And they use the U.S war machine as the cover & excuse by which to enact those deeds.
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difficulty in understanding quite what the handling is in terms of what he has... 'stolen'.
the revolution is that he has taken what is not quite public and made seen to all of us.

there is often a quantifiable idea about what he wants to make public and what people don't quite want to hear.

this is often about the wrongs that others perpetuate and what some would like to hide.

So the level of keeping random messages quiet is often quite high.

These messages are often controversial and diabolical and sometimes terminal.

They can trash people reputations or else they force everyone to think differently.
 
Leeda said:
difficulty in understanding quite what the handling is in terms of what he has... 'stolen'.
the revolution is that he has taken what is not quite public and made seen to all of us.

there is often a quantifiable idea about what he wants to make public and what people don't quite want to hear.

this is often about the wrongs that others perpetuate and what some would like to hide.

So the level of keeping random messages quiet is often quite high.
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I don't see how the disclosure of war crimes can be either rationalised nor justified as a means to contradict the basic rules of a Democracy or freedoms of the press....Again, this is after the fact, so a known enemy cannot take advantage of something tactical that's still in play....and besides, the U.S congress has still not declared a state of war ever since the end of WW2....So all these crimes are thoroughly unconstitutional & illegal under the terms of the U.N pact.....Which is why both the U.S & Israel are leaving the U.N council of human rights....Which really ought to be causing alarm bells for us all.
 
Procrastinator35 said:
I don't see how the disclosure of war crimes can be either rationalised nor justified as a means to contradict the basic rules of a Democracy or freedoms of the press....Again, this is after the fact, so a known enemy cannot take advantage of something tactical that's still in play....and besides, the U.S congress has still not declared a state of war ever since the end of WW2....So all these crimes are thoroughly unconstitutional & illegal under the terms of the U.N pact.....Which is why both the U.S & Israel are leaving the U.N council of human rights....Which really ought to be causing alarm bells for us all.
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your level of information leads me to believe that you have quite the essential level of what we all should worry about. I can't say I do anything other than gather
all options and try to attach my thoughts to those people who send messages of the right kind.

my idea is to be a short hand knowledge specialist and link to those who stand front and centre and put my thoughts out there.

grappling with it my friend. never letting everyone get away with anything.. quietly questioning it all..
 

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Leeda said:
your level of information leads me to believe that you have quite the essential level of what we all should worry about. I can't say I do anything other than gather
all options and try to attach my thoughts to those people who send messages of the right kind.

my idea is to be a short hand knowledge specialist and link to those who stand front and centre and put my thoughts out there.

grappling with it my friend. never letting everyone get away with anything.. quietly questioning it all..
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Young Kyle has a good handle on perspective...."The U.S operates internationally as thugs, goons & criminals".
 
Leeda said:
who is this Kyle you talk about?
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The lad who hosts the show called 'Secular talk' in the vids I've just posted for your perusal.....He makes some excellent points that the MSM just won't go anywhere near....Mainly to do with principles & consistency in the rules of application of international law & the rule of law.
 
He's squandered his goodwill but I don't blame him for staying in the embassy. If he was extradited to the US it wouldn't even be in the top 200 most surprising things Trump has done.
 
Procrastinator35 said:
The lad who hosts the show called 'Secular talk' in the vids I've just posted for your perusal.....He makes some excellent points that the MSM just won't go anywhere near....Mainly to do with principles & consistency in the rules of application of international law & the rule of law.
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my only mode of operandi is that I don't read incessently the media of everywhere..

can't say I blame the supposed media advocate for dismissing herself. she had probably enough of being undermined or else that she would
say one thing and then it would be appropriate to nothing in the end.

these things always seem to happen when they wander into something that ends up being more than they can handle.
 
Just a heads up. I'm not sure what this will be about. If nothing happens, forget that I posted this :p

 

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Assange has become a tool of what he once opposed.

That's why people have "flipped" on Assange.

There's no grand conspiracy from Clinton apologists. If you become what you once opposed, any supporters not beholden to personality worship will flip on you too.

Narcissists using a cause for self promotion will become transparent to free thinking people who support the cause over the individual.

No surprise most of Assange's supporters now are just cult followers who worship individuals over the cause.
 
JeffDunne said:
Assange has become a tool of what he once opposed.

That's why people have "flipped" on Assange.

There's no grand conspiracy from Clinton apologists. If you become what you once opposed, any supporters not beholden to personality worship will flip on you too.

Narcissists using a cause for self promotion will become transparent to free thinking people who support the cause over the individual.

No surprise most of Assange's supporters now are just cult followers who worship individuals over the cause.
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Piss Weak, superficial crap.
 
Procrastinator35 said:
Piss Weak, superficial crap.
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Of course a simpleton beholden by personality would think that.

For people lacking substance, it's far easier to idiolise individuals than comprehend issues or face facts.

Julian is a puppet. You are the target audience.
 
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