Prediction Assistant coaching changes

[Jeffcrowe]

All I'm saying is that we had a classy player available (Milera) but including him would have made no (or very little) difference to how we performed. We needed a collective group that was better able to handle the pressure; class alone is not the solution.

I'm not criticizing Milera, which you seemed to think I was doing.

That's because he's an inexperienced 2nd year player

If we had Steele Sidebottom he would help

We played badly in the GF on the day , doesn't define a teams ability otherwise there is only one team in the AFL with ability in Richmond and I don't believe that

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Isn't it the job of an assistant coach to help improve the deficiencies in a player's game? Isn't it their job to implement effective structures that work with the overall game plan? Aren't they partially responsible for team selection?

If none of these things are occurring, then it is possible to judge the assistant coaches

Doesn't the saying go " if it's to be, it's up to me " ..........or, "you can lead a horse to water..."

Put more responsibility on the players .....the Coaches can only teach

 

[Scorpus]

That's because he's an inexperienced 2nd year player

If we had Steele Sidebottom he would help

We played badly in the GF on the day , doesn't define a teams ability otherwise there is only one team in the AFL with ability in Richmond and I don't believe that

I don't think any singular player in the entire AFL would have helped us win the grand final. It was a collective failure by 2/3rds of the squad.

And yes, we played badly and in general our team is good, but the entire point of the coaching panel is to improve the side from year to year. There are still deficiencies with our side that were surfaced during the grand final that have been there for years.

The key thing is that I don't think Campo and Clarke have the ability to take us to the next level and rid us of these deficiencies. They have no more to give; their talents are tapped out.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I don't think any singular player in the entire AFL would have helped us win the grand final. It was a collective failure by 2/3rds of the squad.

And yes, we played badly and in general our team is good, but the entire point of the coaching panel is to improve the side from year to year. There are still deficiencies with our side that were surfaced during the grand final that have been there for years.

The key thing is that I don't think Campo and Clarke have the ability to take us to the next level and rid us of these deficiencies. They have no more to give; their talents are tapped out.

It was Mental fragility & a lack of arrogance, typified of good sides

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I didn't say he WOULD join but I think he offers a lot wrt winning at all costs, tactics and mongrel...but yep, completely different from all the rest of the coaches

We can do different without destroying the fabric of our club by employing Chocco.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I hate the whole boys club thing and I really dont like ex players being so doninant in our coaching ranks, but if Pods is leaving, get Truck to name his price.

Has turned a bunch of mostly average defenders into a one of the best stingy defences.

I rate him above Hart, but have no issue with Pods who I think has been great.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Where did you have anything positive to say ?

If you were a foreigner, you would think we were wooden spooners going by some posters.

No doubt we we need to improve, but our midfield is amongst the best not the worst. Crouch boys, particularly Brad have improvement. Gibbs adds class. Greenwood, Knight, Milera, Atkins, etc should improve. I expect Gallucci to impact next year. This outweighs losing CC.

Most games we lost this year was because we got the balance wrong, with a lack of runners. Unfortunately, this happened grand final day. Hopefully Pyke has finally learnt his lesson. Team balance is more important than picking the best available 22.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Did you not watch GF where Jacobs put the ball into Richmond players all bL---y day.

Really needs to learn to mix up his tap work if we are getting no advantage. If against Grigg, thump it forward & give them something to think about.

Clarke must be asleep in the coaching box if he doesn't realise his dominant ruckman is giving us no advantage...

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I don't think any singular player in the entire AFL would have helped us win the grand final. It was a collective failure by 2/3rds of the squad.

And yes, we played badly and in general our team is good, but the entire point of the coaching panel is to improve the side from year to year. There are still deficiencies with our side that were surfaced during the grand final that have been there for years.

The key thing is that I don't think Campo and Clarke have the ability to take us to the next level and rid us of these deficiencies. They have no more to give; their talents are tapped out.

If the ' key thing is to improve our side year to year ' then looks like they are succeeding

Hey I'm not arguing whether they are the right guys for the job, I wouldn't mind a change

But you've consistently made things up to suit the argument other than the above quote ( which by the way doesn't assist you at all ) because , well it's in the results

 

[Scorpus]

If the ' key thing is to improve our side year to year ' then looks like they are succeeding

Hey I'm not arguing whether they are the right guys for the job, I wouldn't mind a change

But you've consistently made things up to suit the argument other than the above quote ( which by the way doesn't assist you at all ) because , well it's in the results

We certainly didn't improve our consistency. We can just randomly not show up in key matches, capitulating in an embarrassing, pathetic fashion. Seen the exact same thing to end our season three years in a row now. Our execution under pressure is still below standard, our selection policies are 'disappointing' to put it lightly, and our ability to grind out wins when things aren't going our way is questionable.

But yes, we did finish 2nd instead of 6th so I guess there's nothing to see here. Only improvement. No possible areas that need to be addressed that haven't been addressed for the last 3+ years.

Also, what have I made up? It seems you might be confusing facts with opinions.

 

[Wood_Duck]

Really needs to learn to mix up his tap work if we are getting no advantage. If against Grigg, thump it forward & give them something to think about.

Clarke must be asleep in the coaching box if he doesn't realise his dominant ruckman is giving us no advantage...

Think back to the Melbourne game in Adelaide. Statistically Sauce took them apart. It was one of his worst games ever

 

[Elite Crow]

Controversial, but I'd take Mark Williams on the coaching group

Yeah let’s get the nutjob who thinks we are a plastic club.

 

[Thetrader15]

Yeah let’s get the nutjob who thinks we are a plastic club.

I did say it was controversial

 

[Elite Crow]

I did say it was controversial

It’s not controversial, it’s stupid.

 

[skoobydoo]

Our 'brittleness' has been with us for many years and the big priority for coaches is to solve this problem. What good is an appealing style of game that can score spectacularly yet on the other hand can be shut down as required by closing out space and good old fashioned in your face contest pressure ? We need some tried and true good old fashioned gutter fight toughness as part of our game at all times. As with Mexican food, can we have both ? This is the challenge. It may be a simplification but I am still in disbelief mode that Richmond seemingly went into that GF confident (knowing?) they had the pressure game that we would succumb to. We weren't just beaten in an epic down and out struggle but more simply we were denied our game style. Are we that vulnerable ? Choco is and never will be an answer for the Crows, but maybe we need more emphasis on, not just the individual contested possessions, but a game that still operates under the above extremes of pressure. A game that can struggle through for four quarters and emerge. I don't want a future where the phrase 'we didn't turn up' is often coined. I want a future where we leave fingernails and layers of skin on the playing field in total desperation to get our game style to be victorious. This is what I see a required from our coaches. We can't be one trick ponies.

 

[subaru]

I don't think any singular player in the entire AFL would have helped us win the grand final. It was a collective failure by 2/3rds of the squad.

And yes, we played badly and in general our team is good, but the entire point of the coaching panel is to improve the side from year to year. There are still deficiencies with our side that were surfaced during the grand final that have been there for years.

The key thing is that I don't think Campo and Clarke have the ability to take us to the next level and rid us of these deficiencies. They have no more to give; their talents are tapped out.

Francou in / great
Hart in - meh

 

[subaru]

Our 'brittleness' has been with us for many years and the big priority for coaches is to solve this problem. What good is an appealing style of game that can score spectacularly yet on the other hand can be shut down as required by closing out space and good old fashioned in your face contest pressure ? We need some tried and true good old fashioned gutter fight toughness as part of our game at all times. As with Mexican food, can we have both ? This is the challenge. It may be a simplification but I am still in disbelief mode that Richmond seemingly went into that GF confident (knowing?) they had the pressure game that we would succumb to. We weren't just beaten in an epic down and out struggle but more simply we were denied our game style. Are we that vulnerable ? Choco is and never will be an answer for the Crows, but maybe we need more emphasis on, not just the individual contested possessions, but a game that still operates under the above extremes of pressure. A game that can struggle through for four quarters and emerge. I don't want a future where the phrase 'we didn't turn up' is often coined. I want a future where we leave fingernails and layers of skin on the playing field in total desperation to get our game style to be victorious. This is what I see a required from our coaches. We can't be one trick ponies.

We play "pretty" footy - high scoring ,exciting , fast.
At times this year I would watch some passages of play and think "Jesus - you shouldn't be able to do that " so great was it.
Francou I reckon will add a bit of "ugly" to that

I'm really looking forward to next year

 

[MRB37]

Francou in / great
Hart in - meh

From the sounds of it, he's just a development coach, so I'm not massively concerned about it. He's there to drill the youngsters with what Pyke and Pods want.

 

[Geoffa32]

Really needs to learn to mix up his tap work if we are getting no advantage. If against Grigg, thump it forward & give them something to think about.

Clarke must be asleep in the coaching box if he doesn't realise his dominant ruckman is giving us no advantage...

I personally think in the GF Sauce and Jenkins shoukd have swapped roles.

Jenkins needed to get around the ball to get into the game and when Grigg was Rucking it woukd2 have been a great chance for him to do that.

Sauce is also a very good forward. One of the best contested marks in the game and would have kept Rance honest. Is a great straight kick too.

I only thought this after watching a replay though.

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[Geoffa32]

And yeah, I wish Sauce would give it a 20m thump forward when he dominates a contest as he did GF day.

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[The Sloane Ranger]

From the sounds of it, he's just a development coach, so I'm not massively concerned about it. He's there to drill the youngsters with what Pyke and Pods want.

I at the time of Hart's appointment that his appointment seems to be as a developement coach not as an Assistant Coach however there has been a fair bit of bed wetting in here based on assumptions

I'm more than happy for Hart to be the man that puts out the witches hats for JPod

 

[BunjiMac]

And yeah, I wish Sauce would give it a 20m thump forward when he dominates a contest as he did GF day.

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We back the system in no matter what and never deviate from the plan.

It's been hammered into then and is both a strength and a weakness.

We believe strongly that you win by everyone playing their role better.

Players like Jacobs would feel like they are going against the mantra of the side and not setting the right example if he deviated from instructions.

The probablem with this systematic approach is it dilutes accountability and players fail to take ownership of what is happening out there on the field.

I get the benefits, but weve got the balance wrong. On a scale with Malcolm blight up one end and Neil Craig on the other, we're definitely on the Craig end.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

We back the system in no matter what and never deviate from the plan.

It's been hammered into then and is both a strength and a weakness.

We believe strongly that you win by everyone playing their role better.

Players like Jacobs would feel like they are going against the mantra of the side and not setting the right example if he deviated from instructions.

The probablem with this systematic approach is it dilutes accountability and players fail to take ownership of what is happening out there on the field.

I get the benefits, but weve got the balance wrong. On a scale with Malcolm blight up one end and Neil Craig on the other, we're definitely on the Craig end.

We are no different to any other club, all clubs back in their systems and plans however I would like to see a little more horses for courses selections based on opposition

 

[BunjiMac]

We are no different to any other club, all clubs back in their systems and plans however I would like to see a little more horses for courses selections based on opposition

I think we are more rigid in that approach.

Other clubs back in their system, but their systems have more flexibility built in.

 

[ad victoriam]

Believe J Pod business is going thru a growth period, so he may step down from a full-time assistant coach,
Heard he will still be involved with the club but not to the levels of this year.