Prediction Assistant coaching changes

[MRB37]

Wouldnt mind seeing what Marty Mattner could do in an AFL system.

Jpod to Forwards, replaces Teague, Mattner to backs coach

Mattner re-signed for another 2 years at Sturt a few months ago I think.

 

[Team DJ]

Mattner re-signed for another 2 years at Sturt a few months ago I think.

SANFL Contracts are void if the AFL comes knocking i believe

 

[rocket18]

Campo and Clarke must go, they have both been in the same position for far too long, stifling new/better ideas. They have no ambition for a senior role, just happy to take the money and plod along.

Even when we had Danger, Thommo at his best, Sloane and a dominant Sauce we would somehow still lose the midfield battles.

Desperate need for new blood in these positions.

Look how long Sloane took to come to terms (still hasn't to a degree) with a tag.

 

[MRB37]

SANFL Contracts are void if the AFL comes knocking i believe

I don't think we're allowed to poach SANFL coaches though. Part of the agreement with having the SANFL side.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Wow, finish top and we are bagging coaches.

 

[1970crow]

Campo and Clarke must go, they have both been in the same position for far too long, stifling new/better ideas. They have no ambition for a senior role, just happy to take the money and plod along.

Even when we had Danger, Thommo at his best, Sloane and a dominant Sauce we would somehow still lose the midfield battles.

Desperate need for new blood in these positions.

Look how long Sloane took to come to terms (still hasn't to a degree) with a tag.

It's probably not going to matter, we're not a club that embraces fresh ideas. You can guarantee both Thommo and VB won't be leaving the club to learn anything new. Our club believes that we already have all the knowledge that we need.

 

[1970crow]

Wow, finish top and we are bagging coaches.

What's wrong with the club having not extended the coaching panel?

 

[Apsaalooke]

why?

I'm married and believe everyone should be afforded the opportunity to be as miserable as I am!

I'm happy to vote for it as long as they don't make it compulsory

 

[ad victoriam]

It's probably not going to matter, we're not a club that embraces fresh ideas. You can guarantee both Thommo and VB won't be leaving the club to learn anything new. Our club believes that we already have all the knowledge that we need.

Have to disagree about not being a club that embraces fresh Ideas, Considering our record for Change since Trigg move on and Fagan started.
We restructured our Fitness and medical department to one that was unique in the AFL, but adopted by several sporting clubs overseas, and is currently industry best practice.
We restructured our recruitment and Player management structure,
Our board management now has members overseeing our financial, list management, marketing, basically due to the trigg/tippert stuff up.
We have ventured into additional forms of income in Multi Media and buying an ESport team.
We have changed Coaches one Forced yes but they both brought something new to the club.
One thing our has shown in recent times is loyalty it may not be big today but made prove to be the difference between signing a few player on in the future for less money.
So what if we recruit from within, in some business that is classified as a good move. Remember both VB and Thommo have trained and Played under several coaches all who had different views and ideas Both will be attend coaching courses. And they will be working under Pyke not attempting to be a head coach. Also the Crows have only 3 coaches who played for the Club, JPod, Clarke, VB that is 3 out of the 10 coaches.

the grass is not always greener.

 

[Apsaalooke]

So what if we recruit from within, in some business that is classified as a good move. Remember both VB and Thommo have trained and Played under several coaches all who had different views and ideas Both will be attend coaching courses. And they will be working under Pyke not attempting to be a head coach. Also the Crows have only 3 coaches who played for the Club, JPod, Clarke, VB that is 3 out of the 10 coaches.

the grass is not always greener.

Sanderson
Edit: Sorry you meant current coaches

 

[Crowked]

I reckon you don't need to fix something that isn't broken. I think if Don wants a change we make on, if he doesn't we don't.
I don't think you can say our midfield coaching has been a failure this season anyway.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

I think fresh blood and new ideas is always good providing that player comes from a winning culture. McVeigh if he's available would be ideal.

 

[GreyCrow]

I am surprised that Thommo or VB did not move into the fitness area,
Also, I am not averse to promoting from inside if they are a good enough. I have seen a lot of top people lost to the system because of the belief the grass is greener type thinking. What I have seen of Thommo at SANFL games is he is a Leader and the younger player listen to him.
A very important trait is he does not lose the younger players, So I feel he is going to be a very good coach in that area, Tactically wise to early to make an honest appraisal. and anyway most tactics are driven from the top down.

Campo and Clarke must go, they have both been in the same position for far too long, stifling new/better ideas. They have no ambition for a senior role, just happy to take the money and plod along.

Even when we had Danger, Thommo at his best, Sloane and a dominant Sauce we would somehow still lose the midfield battles.

Desperate need for new blood in these positions.

Look how long Sloane took to come to terms (still hasn't to a degree) with a tag.

I think fresh blood and new ideas is always good providing that player comes from a winning culture. McVeigh if he's available would be ideal.

And this is why I want Thompson to find other clubs. Sure its a successful culture and he certainly has the knowledge. But I want new ideas, not ideas hashed from similar culture.

I hope the choices we make at the end of the year are good ones from good cultures and that Don Pyke has a good say in it

 

[Rotayjay]

Pods has done a fairly good job with the backmen.

Teaguey has done a fantastic job with the forwards.

Campo? He's presided over some good midfield performances and A LOT of shockers.

 

[kulak]

Is it possible Campo is a good coach? The development of our mids over time has been consistent.

 

[ad victoriam]

And this is why I want Thompson to find other clubs. Sure its a successful culture and he certainly has the knowledge. But I want new ideas, not ideas hashed from similar culture.

I hope the choices we make at the end of the year are good ones from good cultures and that Don Pyke has a good say in it

New Ideas, like learning from say, several different coaches. How about learning under the following coaches, Neale Daniher, Neil Craig, Brenton Sanderson, Phil Walsh, Dom Pyke, only mention coaches that he did a preseason with. and did not mention the assistant coaches he worked with.
If he good enough he get the gig, and from what I have seen and heard he has the goods, he deserves the job.
Its funny how the Crows have spent most of the time getting assistant Coaches from outside and yes we do get a few from within but the majority of coaches have come from other clubs. And as soon as we get a player who bleeds for the club we want them to go outside first.
Can you name more than 5 assistant coaches with a strong Crows playing background? and how many can you name that have played more than 200 games for us.

Does it seems odd that the most ex-crows player we have as assistants coaches coincides with us finishing top?

 

[GreyCrow]

New Ideas, like learning from say, several different coaches. How about learning under the following coaches, Neale Daniher, Neil Craig, Brenton Sanderson, Phil Walsh, Dom Pyke, only mention coaches that he did a preseason with. and did not mention the assistant coaches he worked with.
If he good enough he get the gig, and from what I have seen and heard he has the goods, he deserves the job.
Its funny how the Crows have spent most of the time getting assistant Coaches from outside and yes we do get a few from within but the majority of coaches have come from other clubs. And as soon as we get a player who bleeds for the club we want them to go outside first.
Can you name more than 5 assistant coaches with a strong Crows playing background? and how many can you name that have played more than 200 games for us.

Does it seems odd that the most ex-crows player we have as assistants coaches coincides with us finishing top?

I have already discussed this with you. Bleeding for the club and sucking on the teat can be one and the same.

Does it seem odd that we had similar assistants last year and we didn't finish top

 

[Pugsley]

Luke Hodge would also be a great get (very unlikely to leave Victoria, though).

You'd have to pry him out of the pub whilst he is taking it light and easy.

 

[TexForPM]

why?

I'm married and believe everyone should be afforded the opportunity to be as miserable as I am!

 

[ad victoriam]

I have already discussed this with you. Bleeding for the club and sucking on the teat can be one and the same.

Does it seem odd that we had similar assistants last year and we didn't finish top

Last year we finished with 16 win in the Home and away season, and failed in one final.
Personally, I like the Sydney example with John Longmire, Brett Kirk, Ryce Shaw, Henry Playfair, Stephen Taubert, Nick Davis, Stuart Maxfield,
Geelong, Hawks have a couple of ex-players most top AFL teams have some of their ex-player on the coaching panel. the teams at the bottom seem to have fewer ex-players and tend to send them out to gain experience only problem is they don't return.
The Key is to select the right ex-player to be an assistant.

 

[GreyCrow]

The Key is to select the right ex-player to be an assistant.

And I think we all agree on this

 

[MRB37]

Longmuir signed with the Pies. Might mean we're keeping Teague around, but he was another one we've been rumoured about trying to bring over.

 

[DD#23]

pretty happy with Teague and Pods, Campo maybe gets a reprieve after this year as much as I'd still welcome some new blood, Clarke gets moved on FOR SURE...

I'd be thinking about bolstering the strategy, opposition scouting, and physical development departments.

 

[Dirty Bird]

Why move on Clarke
Sauce had a great year.
Shoulda been aa.
But no
Winning one tap with 10 seconds left is enough to win that award

 

[Scorpus]

We aren't moving on any coaches considering we made a Prelim