Astral projection & OBE's

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*** Moderator note: Wondering if anyone else has had experiences with astral projection or OBE's? ***

Sleep paralysis. The scientific, the wiki explanations and the posters here that believe they know what it is, what a load of rubbish. Sleep paralysis is not due to hallucinations.

What most don't understand including the science community (although not all scientists) is that we all have a physical self and a non physical self. When we die our physical self dies but the non physical self does not. Sleep paralysis occurs when your non physical self has not completely detached itself from the physical this is what causes sleep paralysis. It has absolutely nothing do to do with your mind. The beings and the experiences that are experienced in this state are real they are just in a different vibration state than what we are currently.

So even though i don't believe in ghosts in the way they have been explained here. We can and do move from this vibration state into others so I have no doubt the beings from different vibration states can move from theirs into ours. If you want to call these beings ghosts you can but most are just like us they just don't have a physical self which is why they appear as ghosts or spirits.
 
Sleep paralysis. The scientific, the wiki explanations and the posters here that believe they know what it is, what a load of rubbish. Sleep paralysis is not due to hallucinations.

What most don't understand including the science community (although not all scientists) is that we all have a physical self and a non physical self. When we die our physical self dies but the non physical self does not. Sleep paralysis occurs when your non physical self has not completely detached itself from the physical this is what causes sleep paralysis. It has absolutely nothing do to do with your mind. The beings and the experiences that are experienced in this state are real they are just in a different vibration state than what we are currently.

So even though i don't believe in ghosts in the way they have been explained here. We can and do move from this vibration state into others so I have no doubt the beings from different vibration states can move from theirs into ours. If you want to call these beings ghosts you can but most are just like us they just don't have a physical self which is why they appear as ghosts or spirits.
And you know all this how?
 
And you know all this how?
Because I am one of those who can/does do OBE's which if you are not sure is out of body exploration. There have been times if I have not relaxed enough but then do what I need to do to separate my non physical from my physical. You feel yourself being sucked out of your physical self (this feeling alone is pretty cool)) but if you have not relaxed enough or there is tension somewhere in your body then you wont fully separate and you are in what has been described as sleep paralysis. This is being described by some as hallucinations which is totally incorrect. Even when you have not fully separated you have still moved out of our vibration state and into another. There are beings of all sorts and there is not just 1 different vibration state or 1 type of being there are many, could even be in the thousands/millions. Now some beings in these other vibration states are receptive but some are not. I have been hit on some occasions not hard but enough to bring me back to this state but on other occasions they have suffocated me. This is where people are getting the suffocation in sleep paralysis from. It's been done by real beings that want you out.
 
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Now I do want to say because I am sure it will be pointed out that what I say is bull and this has been proven by science blah blah blah that experiments have been done on people when in an OBE's shown its all in your mind. That is rubbish all science has done is shown that when in an out of body state there is still a connection from your non-physical to your physical and this is being picked up by the brain signals they detect when in a OBE state. This has to be otherwise you would no longer exist in this physical form if there is no connection from your non-physical self you would not comeback to your physical. When you die with no blood going to your brain, it dies along with your physical form but as there is no longer that connection your non-physical self is back out there into some other vibration state. We are all immortal.
 
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I take it you 'self medicate' before this happens?
You are either trying to being smart and asking if I take drugs (medicate) which I don't. I tried marijuana once in my life twenty years ago and that was it. I don't smoke and I only have 1 or 2 beers 2-3 times a year. If you meant self-meditate then yes I have my own way that I meditate different to way others do. But I do want try to learn other ways to meditate and maybe even try yoga. When you are in an out of body state you need to be very focused (you actually have to stop your physical brain from thinking) as soon as you mind wanders you snap straight back into your body eyes open and its gone. So focusing is the biggest issue I have when I OBE I find it hard to stay out for long periods. I stay out for probably 3-5 minutes sometimes a bit longer, but there are others which I would call experts such as William Buhlman who can stay out for an hour and he can do it that every day of the week. Imagine 7 hours a week exploring the universe and different realities going wherever you want to go. Although you cannot go everywhere as there are beings called gatekeepers and even in an out of body state there are some places that are not allowed.
 
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Yes, I was being smart and after your last post I'm even more convinced, sorry.
 
You are either trying to being smart and asking if I take drugs (medicate) which I don't. I tried marijuana once in my life twenty years ago and that was it. I don't smoke and I only have 1 or 2 beers 2-3 times a year. If you meant self-meditate then yes I have my own way that I meditate different to way others do. But I do want try to learn other ways to meditate and maybe even try yoga. When you are in an out of body state you need to be very focused (you actually have to stop your physical brain from thinking) as soon as you mind wanders you snap straight back into your body eyes open and its gone. So focusing is the biggest issue I have when I OBE I find it hard to stay out for long periods. I stay out for probably 3-5 minutes sometimes a bit longer, but there are others which I would call experts such as William Buhlman who can stay out for an hour and he can do it that every day of the week. Imagine 7 hours a week exploring the universe and different realities going wherever you want to go. Although you cannot go everywhere as there are beings called gatekeepers and even in an out of body state there are some places that are not allowed.
So what can you see? Events in the past, present and future? Hidden truths or possibilities?
 
Yes, I was being smart and after your last post I'm even more convinced, sorry.
Don't be sorry to me you. You being unconvinced does not change what I and others like me can do, or experience the life and other beings beyond our own. Neither does it change what is and what isn't or if there is life after this one. All it means you don't and will never know and lets be honest who cares. If you believe like most sleep paralysis as being some kind of hallucination then you are admitting you have no control over your mind and this is why you have been easily manipulated over the years by others and they have formed your beliefs.
 
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Don't be sorry to me you. You being unconvinced does not change what I and others like me can do, or experience the life and other beings beyond our own. Neither does it change what is and what isn't or if there is life after this one. All it means you don't and will never know and lets be honest who cares. If you believe like most sleep paralysis as being some kind of hallucination then you are admitting you have no control over your mind and this is why you have been easily manipulated over the years by others and they have formed your beliefs. Have you ever asked what does a cow know, can you explain and convince the cow that there is a whole word beyond that grass he is eating. Does the cow understand anything you are saying, no because its just a cow. Sadly there are people that live their lives just like that cow.
I'm not saying that sleep paralysis is or isn't hallucination or that you don't have control over your mind, I'm saying that I don't believe you.

BTW I don't talk to cows, but I do feed them to my dogs. Having stated that, I communicate with them from time to time, usually to try to get them to eat some grass from my hand.
 
So what can you see? Events in the past, present and future? Hidden truths or possibilities?
There is what is called the Akashi records somewhere in the Astral plane which if you are allowed to enter you can experience your past lives. As your future hasn't been lived yet you could only experience what it would predict it to be. I understand from others that have have been there you could even get future stock market prices. You would need to be careful doing stuff like that though. I have not and don't know yet how to get to the Akashi records. I am sure there are other ways you can experience past and future without going to this place and that is what I will try first.
 

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It is not ditto because you do believe in what I am saying you just cannot admit it. Your belief prior to this conversation like others is that sleep paralysis was and is a hallucination. From the very first question you already had the 'i do not believe' because you were as you admitted trying to be a smart-a... You now admit you don't know if sleep paralysis is a hallucination or not. So I have moved you from believing sleep paralysis is a hallucination to now you don't know if it is or isn't. See you do believe me you just cannot be man enough to admit it. Sleep paralysis is not a hallucination, it is your non-physical self not completely detaching itself from your physical self when you sleep.
 
Good Lord (I presume you've met Him as well, maybe given him a few pointers).
 
Good Lord (I presume you've met Him as well, maybe given him a few pointers).
Seeing as you brought it up I have been to the place where he resides I just could not get past the three monks guarding the entrance. Now I bet you are now thinking I am one of these religious nuts, but I ain't although I am starting to think that you are. I have only set foot in a church at weddings and funerals. My belief in God has always been that he may exist or may not. I was given details of how to get there on another occasion when I was out. I have since been there 3 times but the last time I went these monks I could sense were getting a little pissed. I could go back there anytime I want, I know the commands but I have decided I will go back one more time when i'm ready.
I do want to point to you by your comment 'maybe give him a few pointers'. Why would i give him pointers I have only stated that sleep paralysis being a hallucination is rubbish and I have stated what it really is. You are the one that entered the conversation being a smarta... and the only thing you were bringing to it is 'I don't believe' which is what you were going to say regardless of what I said. But I think I am understanding now you are a religious person and this sort of talk goes against your religious beliefs.
 
There is what is called the Akashi records somewhere in the Astral plane which if you are allowed to enter you can experience your past lives. As your future hasn't been lived yet you could only experience what it would predict it to be. I understand from others that have have been there you could even get future stock market prices. You would need to be careful doing stuff like that though. I have not and don't know yet how to get to the Akashi records. I am sure there are other ways you can experience past and future without going to this place and that is what I will try first.
What have you yourself experienced so far?

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Don't be sorry to me you. You being unconvinced does not change what I and others like me can do, or experience the life and other beings beyond our own. Neither does it change what is and what isn't or if there is life after this one. All it means you don't and will never know and lets be honest who cares. If you believe like most sleep paralysis as being some kind of hallucination then you are admitting you have no control over your mind and this is why you have been easily manipulated over the years by others and they have formed your beliefs.

Sounds like you have a very vivid imagination to me.

I love the dreams with the ladies that I can control too :thumbsu:
 
Sounds like you have a very vivid imagination to me.

I love the dreams with the ladies that I can control too :thumbsu:
This is not imagination. I am a skeptic in this neck of woods and i can confirm this is indeed possible. When i was in my mid 20's i contemplated becoming a Buddhist monk (was sick of everything really) and went spent a year with Buddhist monks near the India/China border. Certain meditative techniques can give rise to OBE. Its very difficult to perfect as you need to be thoughtless, motionless for a very long period of time, while still being aware. Its a technique i couldn't perfect (but gave me a good understanding of symbology and mythology in religion) but i still managed to have couple of experiences (its not sleep). Now i am way too materialistic to practice such things. Ego will always get in the way. But i knew several monks who could do this and would tell me things that they couldn't possibly have known.
 
Its not anecdotal, you can try it yourself. Its difficult to perfect but how would you know without trying? or you already have made your conclusion?

No sorry, I meant the stories the monks told you that they couldn't possibly know.

What'd they tell you?
 
No sorry, I meant the stories the monks told you that they couldn't possibly know.

What'd they tell you?

That's a bit personal mate, but lets just say, things which were very personal to me. Like my relationship with my dad (which was terrible then), i would often think of him and think of how the relationship got spoiled.I did blame myself quite often but never in public. These people over there couldnt possibly have known that, considering i came from Australia and no one knew me there, or i havent spoken about my past life with anyone else.

There are many other things as well, but i prefer not to talk about those.
 
That's a bit personal mate, but lets just say, things which were very personal to me. Like my relationship with my dad (which was terrible then), i would often think of him and think of how the relationship got spoiled.I did blame myself quite often but never in public. These people over there couldnt possibly have known that, considering i came from Australia and no one knew me there, or i havent spoken about my past life with anyone else.

There are many other things as well, but i prefer not to talk about those.

Cheers.

I have no intention of trying as I have a well formed opinion already about this sort of thing.

I liken it to religion in that people simply want to believe that there's more to our existence than simply just 'being' here which is purposeful for those who choose to partake in believing.
 

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