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Hmm. I'll ponder this assertion.
When my dad was deployed to Butterworth, The MCP insurgents weren't Muslim and they committed more acts of terror over a much longer timespan, even assassinating The British High Commissioner, Sir Henry Gurney than anyone else. The Malaysian Emergency only came to an end in 1989.
The CPP–NPA–NDF rebellion in the Philippines has nothing to do with religion either. On the 50th anniversary of the rebellion in 2017, the Philippines President declared the belligerent parties terrorists.
Whilst Indonesia controlled Timor Leste, Fretilin and Falintel mounted an insurgency against the Indonesian administration. Neither party was Islamic, and if Timor Leste hadn't wrest independence back from Indonesia, they'd probably still be called terrorists, just as Indonesia calls the Organisasi Papua Merdeka, (OPM), which isn't Islamic by the way, nor was the Bougainville Revolutionary Army (BRA).
It's a fallacy to paint all terrorism in South East Asia as derived from their religion, when for the vast majority of the history of conflict and insurgency in South East Asia, most of it has been due to territorial independence and political power ambitions. And a lot of it still is, Southern Thailand, Southern Philippines, and West Papua for instance is really about seeking autonomy mostly. To accuse the Barisan Revolusi Nasional for instance of being the product of Islam would be about as disingenuous as saying that the Irish RepublIcan Army was a product of Catholicism, or the Irgun was a product of Judaism. Extremist Islamic groups are more an exception in South East Asian conflict history, than the norm. A fad, the new fashion maybe, just as communism before it, and the pirate territories before that. It's just a testament to man's greed and propensity for criminal enterprises, that regardless of ideology or religion there will always be some cretin who chose the path of terror to achieve their slice of the earth to rule.

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Timor and Irian Jaya / West Papua groups fighting the hard line Muslim government.

Timor now independent. West Papua will just get out populated by the Javanese in time.
 

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You leftist pieces of crap should ashamed with yourselves.

None of you (I'm referring to you lefties) have shown the slightest concern about the life of this poor child. All you ever do is defend this evil religion.

Everyone should be putting your political opinions aside for the sake of good when it comes to children. surely the right of children to live (regardless of geographies) takes precedence over religion.


If this video makes you sick to the stomach then you have a heart and will most likely take a stand against it. If it doesn't make you sick to the stomach then you are clearly a supporter of Islam and a sick and twisted enemy of the rest of us.
Having looked at the past couple of pages; this thread is a **** show. But, go for it.

Islamism is a scourge. Every Islamist and alt right terrorist and militarist should strap on a suicide vest, all go to an island far away from humanity and do the world a favour.

But we can't speak to them. I can speak to you. You're posting a video of a girl being murdered from a site where sick campaigners pull themselves to torture porn.

We all fall into the 'the guys I disagree with are aresholes'. But for **** sake. You're throwing the murder of a 9 year old girl by a terrorist rapist into this mix? And linking to the video?
 

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A) your continued inability to state which part of my post wasn't factual speaks for itself.

B) I don't recall saying Sri Lanka is in the middle east so you are arguing a point I haven't made so, well done.

C) IS came about and is the direct result of illegal western invasions in the middle east and has spread elsewhere since then. To refuse to acknowledge this shows who the real dimwit is.

D) I have made no apologies for IS and detest them and their ilk. You on the other hand can't bring yourself to criticise the west for starting and fueling conflicts that have claimed the lives of millions. Chew on that.



A) Islam was there for a millennium yet it took until the western invasion of Iraq for IS to come about. Now I am not a rocket surgeon but to say the west had nothing to do with it seems like a laughably inane claim to make.

B) That muslims are the main target for groups like this actually doesn't help to make your point that Islam is the cause of it all unless you are trying to say Islam teaches its followers to kill each other. If that is the case then I am surprised there is still so many Muslims out there..




Thanks for contributing absolutely nothing to the discussion, fellas.
The West, and the US especially, are the only ones who have stopped a genocide against Muslims in the past 50 years, and meanwhile China and Burma perpetrate them. Which earns the ire? The West. In Sri Lanka it is non-Western Christians. Why? Because of ancient resentments.

I’ll address your individual points when I have more time, but each and every one of them are wrong.
 

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I get the same feeling everytime I'm in a tall buidling, walking down a mall in a crowded space, enjoying a coffee in a cafe, at a serviced apartment in Brighton, holidaying in Bali, anywhere near a police station in Endeavour Hills, running a marathon, walking along London Bridge. I'm going to run out of room here...
pretty much ****en anywhere actually, nowhere in public can be considered safe with this prehistoric religion.
Their campaign of terror seems to have worked a treat with you.
 

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Miliface has banned me me from the appropriate thread so I'll open the discussion here.

Has anyone seen the disgusting video of the 9YO girl being beheaded because she she refused to have sex with her "husband"? I won't link it her because it is fn disgusting. How you pieces of crap can defend this religion and their followers is beyond me. You should be deeply ashamed of yourselves.
Grow up. Just because a muslim does something doesn't mean it is necessarily in line with teachings of their religion. Same with followers of any other religion.
 
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Muhammad's favourite wife was Aisha. He married Aisha when she was 6, and consummated the marriage when she was 9. We know that she had not yet hit puberty when Muhammad first had sex with her because a) she says that she was 9 and b) she is recorded as still playing with dolls at the time, which was forbidden in Islam for girls who had reached puberty. Some Muslim scholars jump through hoops to try and make her seem older, but it's pretty plainly and clearly stated in the most trusted hadith collections.
 

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Muhammad's favourite wife was Aisha. He married Aisha when she was 6, and consummated the marriage when she was 9. We know that she had not yet hit puberty when Muhammad first had sex with her because a) she says that she was 9 and b) she is recorded as still playing with dolls at the time, which was forbidden in Islam for girls who had reached puberty. Some Muslim scholars jump through hoops to try and make her seem older, but it's pretty plainly and clearly stated in the most trusted hadith collections.
The most trusted hadith collections also state Mohammad flew to heaven on a winged horse and that he split the moon in half. Do you believe that too?
 
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The most trusted hadith collections also state Mohammad flew to heaven on a winged horse and that he split the moon in half. Do you believe that too?
The question isn't whether I believe it. The question is whether this behaviour is likely to been by Muslims (who do believe it) as something they should follow, given Muhammad is seen in Islam as the pattern of conduct for believers.
 

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The question isn't whether I believe it. The question is whether this behaviour is likely to been by Muslims (who do believe it) as something they should follow, given Muhammad is seen in Islam as the pattern of conduct for believers.
So you have doubts about the factual accuracy and validity of the hadith then I take it?
 
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