Secondary ATAR results

[vonn]

You're going to file an appeal because your ENTER score will be a 97 instead of 98?

You need to take a step back and enjoy life a little more.

Each to their own. I took the initiative to work for this knowing I have plenty of time for enjoyment in the future... so it's all a matter of the individual...
I assure you I'm not paying the money for the appeals just to appease my embarrassment... if it was genuinely my own stupidity I will learn from it and move on.
I'm filing an appeal because I honestly believe they got my externals wrong for those two subjects and I want them to recount it, and I want a copy of my raw marks distribution. Given my internals were all ridiculously higher and my estimates are all higher, externals that low when I came out feeling good and being positive of band 6 externals are ridiculous.

That's really, really unfortunate. I'm sure thousands of others are in that same situation.

You might as well appeal it, they won't deduct marks -- the only outcome is a better ATAR, or one the same.
Is there a chance you can scrape in with the 97? I know people who have gotten into courses requiring 85s, with ATAR scores of about 70... One mark might see you get in.

Saying that, you've done very well. As I understand, your ATAR is a 97? That's more than I can ever hope for (through no fault but my own laziness).

Are you sure they don't deduct marks? I was a little reluctant to appeal because of this reason but I honestly feel like I'm at the point where they've given me the lowest marks I could have imagined for myself personally so all or nothing I guess.

& Thank you I am not sure what my ATAR is yet, but ATAR calculator says its around 96-97, I will update tomorrow.
How do you think you went??
I'm not sure if I can scrape in with the 97... I have pretty much had to change my whole UAC preferences with this **** up & kiss goodbye to any potential scholarships. Very very frustrating. My first course preference was 98.00 and backup was 97.25, both of which I am struggling to get with the shit ecos (87) and business (92) marks.

 

[Silent Alarm]

"Shit marks" with 87 and 92?

Look, if you've got the ability and the strictness to study, you need not worry. Why don't you do a similar course? I know a lot of people who have changed courses. Keep up your study rituals. You obviously have a desire to try hard and get great results. Use this to your advantage. Continue with your good marks in uni, then request a transfer?

It's not worth stressing about. Life isn't long. And you will find a way around this.

 

[GreatBradScott]

If I get my results and somehow they are in the vicinity of of 87 and 92 in any subject, I'll celebrate by running down Collins Street stark naked during peak hour.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Am gutted. Had externals of 89 and 84 in business and economics which I'm going to appeal because that is just too low for my usual standards and it's not right because I found both exams very very easy. Can't see me getting a raw mark that low so the aligned one is a surprise. 2 more marks in both hsc marks and I would be looking at 98. Now that I'm looking at 96-97 I'm so so devo. I just hope they got something wrong with calculations, I've never gotten anywhere near that bad in anything else.

Jesus.

I honestly can't stand this attitude.

It is not the end of the world, in all likelihood you'll achieve a great ATAR score (95 + puts you in the top 5% in the country).

Look at the course you really wanted to get into; I'm guessing Journalism, Law, Medicine or possibly a Law double degree based on the score (?? in Vic that would the ballpark)... contact the university your desired course is at, find out what courses could provide you with a simple transfer into your desired course (if you meet grade requirements).

Not an option? Look for other courses which might interest you, what guarantee is there you would have loved your no.1 preference anyway?

Some advice?

Stop looking for excuses, don't expect your review of the papers to give you the result you're looking for... accept it and move on.

A bit of perspective please, take off the blinkers because they won't do you any good and realize it is far from the end of the world.

I had a mate who needed a perfect score to get into his clear preferred course; he got 99.35.

I told him in no uncertain terms to harden up and that he had no idea how much of a w***er he sounded complaining about his near perfect ATAR.

By the way do your 'usual standards' include shit grammar? .....

 

[Silent Alarm]

Jesus.

I honestly can't stand this attitude.

It is not the end of the world, in all likelihood you'll achieve a great ATAR score (95 + puts you in the top 5% in the country).

Look at the course you really wanted to get into; I'm guessing Journalism, Law, Medicine or possibly a Law double degree based on the score (?? in Vic that would the ballpark)... contact the university your desired course is at, find out what courses could provide you with a simple transfer into your desired course (if you meet grade requirements).

Not an option? Look for other courses which might interest you, what guarantee is there you would have loved your no.1 preference anyway?

Some advice?

Stop looking for excuses, don't expect your review of the papers to give you the result you're looking for... accept it and move on.

A bit of perspective please, take off the blinkers because they won't do you any good and realize it is far from the end of the world.

I had a mate who needed a perfect score to get into his clear preferred course; he got 99.35.

I told him in no uncertain terms to harden up and that he had no idea how much of a w***er he sounded complaining about his near perfect ATAR.

By the way do your 'usual standards' include shit grammar? .....

I tend to agree with this.

I sympathised at first thinking "what if I missed out on uni by one tiny mark?", but it's quite different.

I was thinking about Vonn's post about an hour ago... and... yeah. It's almost as though you're ungrateful.

 

[Tzatziki_Man]

Hear out on my story Vonn, It might make you feel better.

I finished year 12 in Melbourne (2008). I applied for Bachelor of Arts/Education at La Trobe University and required an 88. Once I applied for their SALT entry scheme (basically you write them a very detailed letter on your ambitions and they guarantee you a spot even with a lower ATAR). That 88 suddenly turned to a 75, I got a little lazy and BOOM, I ended up with a 73.35.

Missed out on my course. Now I took a different route, I completed my Bachelor of Arts, I'm about to graduate, and I have 100 options of postgraduate study ahead of me, I'm more mature to make a better decision now than what I was three years ago.

Sometimes you need to ride the wave you've jumped on, I agree with PuppetMaster, use this as motivation. You will still get to where you want to go, only if you really want to get there.

 

[Prudster]

While i hate it when people say they did shit, only to reveal that they actually got an A/A+, vonn's attitude is simply the attitude that students are told to have. There is so much pressure put on students to not only get into a prestigious uni, but also get into a prestigious course. There is very little said about the fact that many student's don't get into what they want, but take a different route, and have just as much success.

It amazed me how many people at my school wanted to do medicine. Despite the fact that only a couple or so get in each year, there must have been 20 or 30 that wanted to do it. Most of them weren't smart enough, didn't have the work ethic, or simply didn't have the personality to be good doctors. Not saying vonn is one of these people, as he/she is obviously pretty smart and dedicated, but the attitude these days is that people can achieve anything they wish, and as such courses like medicine are achievable for all. Obviously this is not true, as this kind of course requires smarts, work ethic and in the case of medicine, certain traits that would be required after they finish their course.

People just get set up for disappointment, when in reality they should just be aiming lower.

Again, this doesn't necessarily apply to vonn, as i have no idea if he/she is like this.

 

[vonn]

Prudster I understand where you are coming from, but the pressure and expectations of myself are placed on me by myself, I have high expectations which stems from my own ambitions, not that of what my teachers or parents or friends have taught me.

I understand where you come from and have read and considered seriously what everyone has said on this page and wish to apologise if I came accross as arrogant. I understand that the ATAR does not mean everything, I understand that you can transfer and I am aware that it does not correlate to immediate success, but please remember I had just studied my ass off at a school ranked top 10 with exremely high ranks, a conservative estimate of 98 and had fallen short of my course preference by marks I don't feel I lost and had to reassess all of my UAC preferences so I don't feel rational enough to put things into perspective until a day or two after I get over the disappointment. But now I feel better... so I am defs not ungrateful but relative to input it's frustrating. Like I said, apologies if I seem arrogant or elitest, I don't mean to.

In happier news I'm so proud of my cohort So much excitement for them! & Personally I got an atar of around 97 so missed out on my prefs. Keen to hear how everyone else did? Get into your courses?

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

You didn't sound arrogant at all, there's a difference between setting goals and being disappointed when they don't come off (although maybe irrationally) and arrogance.

 

[vonn]

I know I was/am being irrational. Disappointment just clouds any rational thought for me I guess... although I am trying to be rational now and I can defs see where people are coming from. Anyway I would love other people to share theirs! ThePuppetMaster did you do it?

 

[Speck]

I know I was/am being irrational. Disappointment just clouds any rational thought for me I guess... although I am trying to be rational now and I can defs see where people are coming from. Anyway I would love other people to share theirs! ThePuppetMaster did you do it?

You'll get a lot more people sharing tomorrow once Victoria gets their study scores and ATARs. Absolutely shitting myself, this wait is pure agony!

 

[vonn]

Haha it is the worst isn't it, I don't know if VIC does this but HSC gives our your RESULTS the DAY BEFORE ATAR so EVERYONE is freaking out! It was an awful sleep.

Results come out at 6AM! ATAR came out at 8am. I am still recovering.

 

[magic_johnson!]

We get our atar and results at the same time, tomorrow morning.

 

[bloodpumpsRnB]

I've had "results dreams" almost every night for the last few weeks. I need it to be over with, but am also scared shitless.

 

[SpaceCow]

I'm kinda nervous....

I needed 85 for what I wanted to do and I think I should get that easy enough but I've since changed my mind and need 92ish. That's around the ATAR I'm expecting so it'll be a close call.

 

[Eastdog]

I know the feeling you guys are going through. I did VCE in 2007 and was very nervous the night before the results came out especially that morning going onto the computer. Good Luck to everyone.

 

[Speck]

I'm kinda nervous....

I needed 85 for what I wanted to do and I think I should get that easy enough but I've since changed my mind and need 92ish. That's around the ATAR I'm expecting so it'll be a close call.

I have the exact same scores needed for my preferred courses. 92 being BBIS/Commerce and 85 being just BBIS (both at Monash). Is that what you intend on doing? I'd be satisfied with 85 but would love 92.

 

[OzBomber]

I've had "results dreams" almost every night for the last few weeks. I need it to be over with, but am also scared shitless.

Haha yeah I've had a couple too. Last one I got a 69 ATAR and for some reason they were giving out the actual results to the methods exam 1 and I got 36%. The truth is that 36% is probably going to be close to the mark, if anything it will be lower.

Startin to crap myself about tomorrow. Want 80, after how my exams went, it's looking more and more unlikely every day.

 

[SpaceCow]

I have the exact same scores needed for my preferred courses. 92 being BBIS/Commerce and 85 being just BBIS (both at Monash). Is that what you intend on doing? I'd be satisfied with 85 but would love 92.

85 is Science at Melb and 92 is Engineering/Sci at Monash. The Melbourne course is now about 4th on my preferences due to hearing about how the whole "Melbourne Model" isn't too flash. I've got a few Monash ones above it now including Eng/Sci.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

The Melbourne Model is excellent.

But I understand it's not for everyone.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

I know I was/am being irrational. Disappointment just clouds any rational thought for me I guess... although I am trying to be rational now and I can defs see where people are coming from. Anyway I would love other people to share theirs! ThePuppetMaster did you do it?

I finished last year, and was disappointed with the 87 I got (I thought low-mid 90's was realistic), most things didn't go my way under pressure in my exams unfortunately; I had to carry 1/3 of my English marks because my attempted imaginative piece lost the plot (literally, but that's the chance you take with imaginative pieces), didn't finish my second essay in politics (ie. 20% of the exam) due to poor choices in terms of time management (got stuck on one question) and got my history score shunted down (still a 39 study score though) because our cohort did very poorly; for the record I think 4-5 (out of 16) students got low 20's... (Not flash).

But I came to terms with all that pretty much immediately (I'm fairly realistic), I realized that a fair bit of what some might call bad luck actually occurred because I wasn't as well prepared as I should have been.

Got into my second preference (Monash Arts; Melbourne was no.1) and am mightily underwhelmed with every minute of it!!!

 

[La Dispute]

Good luck to those getting their results.

Slept about two hours the night before we got ours

Life isn't over if you get less than you expected either. Always a way to get where you want.

 

[Prudster]

I am absolutely shitting myself about tomorrow. I've been eating very little the last couple of days, and i just feel sick. It's stupid because i am very confident i will get the score i need. Need and 82, but i am aiming for a 93, just as a target i set myself so i did some work this year. Doesn't help that i have an interview tomorrow for a scholarship as well. Honestly, who puts them on the same day

 

[Speck]

I am absolutely shitting myself about tomorrow. I've been eating very little the last couple of days, and i just feel sick. It's stupid because i am very confident i will get the score i need. Need and 82, but i am aiming for a 93, just as a target i set myself so i did some work this year. Doesn't help that i have an interview tomorrow for a scholarship as well. Honestly, who puts them on the same day

Feeling the exact same. You'll get through it mate, no matter what happens you will find a way.

Can I ask what the interview is exactly for? I've got one too for the Monash IT IBL placement.

 

[SpaceCow]

I finished last year, and was disappointed with the 87 I got (I thought low-mid 90's was realistic), most things didn't go my way under pressure in my exams unfortunately; I had to carry 1/3 of my English marks because my attempted imaginative piece lost the plot (literally, but that's the chance you take with imaginative pieces), didn't finish my second essay in politics (ie. 20% of the exam) due to poor choices in terms of time management (got stuck on one question) and got my history score shunted down (still a 39 study score though) because our cohort did very poorly; for the record I think 4-5 (out of 16) students got low 20's... (Not flash).

That's really not instilling confidence in me....
I think I went goodly enough on Chem and IT, but not so much on Methods and English.

By not so much I mean anywhere from 20-35 for each.