Racing August Daily punt- the thread with less weeks duration than Bowmans ban!!

[FallingLiefs]

Showmanship seems poi poi to me from BM grade to Melb Metro

Adelaide Ace fresh with the milkshake man and is a Gp2 winner

He’s going from a 72-84 rating race to drumroll...... a 72-84 rating race.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

He’s going from a 72-84 rating race to drumroll...... a 72-84 rating race.

Some of these here have either won a group race see Adelaide Ace
Or held thier own - Junipal against V&D

I don’t trust Pike either, especially in Melbourne

Showmanship maybe blows them away if the hype is on the money but I’m not touching it at $1.75

 

[Viva la Mattner]

My thoughts on Saturday
Caulfield

R1. Sovereign Award too good

R2. Pass

R3. Street Icon

R4. Plein Ciel

R5. Rulership , originally keen on HS but looking at what Rulership has raced against and what it would’ve been against last week.. that’s classes above

R6. Fresh’s SP profile is a big tick I’m on - Pphone hard to beat if track plays fairly

R7. Last chance for BGTYM, word is may need the run but it’s going to give itself every chance if any bias is there

R8. MJ - just setup well for her been keen all week

R9. Adelaide Ace e/w can’t touch fav at that price

Others :

Randwick
R7. North Pacific
R8. Danzdanzdance

Morphettville
R5. Territory Titan
R6. Rothmoore
R7. Rainmoth e/w (octane form)
R8. Perfect Command

 

[FallingLiefs]

Some of these here have either won a group race see Adelaide Ace
Or held thier own - Junipal against V&D

I don’t trust Pike either, especially in Melbourne

Showmanship maybe blows them away if the hype is on the money but I’m not touching it at $1.75

Fair enough I was actually looking at the wrong race and he’s actually dropping in grade From a 78-90 last start, beat 6 individual stakes winners. I personally wouldn’t be looking at a resuming staying 3yo to win because he’s better than him. Only knock is the long break and hold at 1400 after travel to a new state.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Some of these here have either won a group race see Adelaide Ace
Or held thier own - Junipal against V&D

I don’t trust Pike either, especially in Melbourne

Showmanship maybe blows them away if the hype is on the money but I’m not touching it at $1.75

Speaking of Pike has one ride at Geelong today - Carnamah r6

 

[frantelle]

Fair enough I was actually looking at the wrong race and he’s actually dropping in grade From a 78-90 last start, beat 6 individual stakes winners. I personally wouldn’t be looking at a resuming staying 3yo to win because he’s better than him. Only knock is the long break and hold at 1400 after travel to a new state.

Two of the perceived threats in Adelaide Ace and Wilmot Pass made their names in their 3YO season as well.

Agree the programming and distance are the main queries. Bob Peters was on radio yesterday saying he is struggling to find a race program for Showmanship and Superstorm given the inability to travel to NSW.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Harbour Views started it’s illustrious career at Warrnambool.

Indeed he did. Evidence below

 

[iluvparis]

Two of the perceived threats in Adelaide Ace and Wilmot Pass made their names in their 3YO season as well.

Agree the programming and distance are the main queries. Bob Peters was on radio yesterday saying he is struggling to find a race program for Showmanship and Superstorm given the inability to travel to NSW.

He is a strange cat that old Bob - I would have thought the path to the Cox Plate in Victoria has been obvious for about the last 50 years.

Perhaps he thinks the optimal path is gutting them on bottomless tracks while even the boys eat his regumate salt licks.

 

[frantelle]

He is a strange cat that old Bob - I would have thought the path to the Cox Plate in Victoria has been obvious for about the last 50 years.

Perhaps he thinks the optimal path is gutting them on bottomless tracks while even the boys eat his regumate salt licks.

Hahahah

I'm not sure Showmanship is necessarily on a Cox Plate path, even though its nommed. Sounds as if AQ is the only def Cox Plate target with Regal Power maybe looking at a Caulfield Cup yet..?

Sounds as if he is very much concerned with taking Showmanship through each of its grades. If that wasn't the case it'd be a no brainer to target the handicap G1s early this spring

 

[iluvparis]

Hahahah

I'm not sure Showmanship is necessarily on a Cox Plate path, even though its nommed. Sounds as if AQ is the only def Cox Plate target with Regal Power maybe looking at a Caulfield Cup yet..?

Sounds as if he is very much concerned with taking Showmanship through each of its grades. If that wasn't the case it'd be a no brainer to target the handicap G1s early this spring

Exactly - I thought they are right up his alley - and is there something in the NSW system that makes it easier to get your rating up than Victoria? I wouldn't have thought so apart from the fact that fields are smaller in Sydney.

 

[frantelle]

Exactly - I thought they are right up his alley - and is there something in the NSW system that makes it easier to get your rating up than Victoria? I wouldn't have thought so apart from the fact that fields are smaller in Sydney.

I'm not sure what he meant by that, but maybe there are a lack of 90 - 100 handicap type races in Vic over the next 4 - 6 weeks?

I get what he means by not taking it through ALL the grades, but he is good enough right now to win a handicap G1 then * the grades. Lock one away and regardless of how the other horses go its been a fruitful endeavor.

Anyway trying to understand Bob's logic is a waste of time. I did pot him for going the Peter Young? (1800) > Aus Cup (2000m) > All Star Mile with Regal Power and that seem to work out all right

 

[iluvparis]

I guess his concern is that he won't get into the G1 handicaps with his current rating - but there was nothing stopping him throwing Showmanship in the PB Lawerence for example.

 

[Mazza1234678]

The big field and possibly Pike getting it caught in no mans land is the only thing that will cost it the win

Has fitness on its side compared to most of these, and has a clear class edge, this should be winning better races than this over the spring

Ill be on assuming it stays at the 1.75 quote, anything shorter and no thanks

 

[iluvparis]

The big field and possibly Pike getting it caught in no mans land is the only thing that will cost it the win

Has fitness on its side compared to most of these, and has a clear class edge, this should be winning better races than this over the spring

Ill be on assuming it stays at the 1.75 quote, anything shorter and no thanks

Clear class edge yet has 2 horses rated higher than it and as VLM noted has another proven black type performer? The second fave has had two runs since his last one too so it must be super fit!!!!

 

[iluvparis]

Can Extra Time do a Dalasan to Dalasan in this year's Spring Stakes?

 

[Turnover]

Indeed he did. Evidence below

View attachment 934900

Hope you kept it. Will be needed for a museum dedicated to the great horse.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Hahahah

I'm not sure Showmanship is necessarily on a Cox Plate path, even though its nommed. Sounds as if AQ is the only def Cox Plate target with Regal Power maybe looking at a Caulfield Cup yet..?

Sounds as if he is very much concerned with taking Showmanship through each of its grades. If that wasn't the case it'd be a no brainer to target the handicap G1s early this spring

Of the the WA horses mentioned, I think Regal Power is the one with the goods

 

[HeathySure]

This is the weirdest spring ever. Still feels like winter racing but the biggies are only a couple of months away

 

[BuddysBiggestFan]

Geelong

R2 Jharana

Liked the way it hit the line last time. Not sure why it’s double digit odds. Maybe it doesn’t like the soft and looks like a strong maiden.

 

[cutterman]

Whose the greatest ever horse to race at Sale?

Makybe Diva won her third start at Sale, after a debit 4th over 1200m at Benalla and a win over the mile at Wangaratta!

 

[iluvparis]

Makybe Diva won her third start at Sale, after a debit 4th over 1200m at Benalla and a win over the mile at Wangaratta!

And we now have a winner for the (now) 2nd greatest horse ever to race at Sale

 

[BuddysBiggestFan]

Jharana looks like a pony. Useless.

Picked the wrong horse to follow from that race.

 

[MITS]

Whose the greatest ever horse to race at Sale?

Sky heights debut was there I think.

 

[iluvparis]

Sky heights debut was there I think.

Turns out this is the true nursery of champions!

 

[TBellicious]

I am loving Tavistock progeny at the moment
They are just proper racehorses (who swim)