Australian wicketkeepers

[Bradesmaen]

Haddin of now, or Haddin of two years ago and Wade of right now, or Wade at some time in the past couple of years?

Both of approximately a year ago (As Wade has not played in SA this year)

 

[the 5th wiggle]

Wade is quickly jumping on to the bigfooty dislike list. Just becuase of his keeping? People are saying this even without seeing him keep, because someone else said it on here, and it spreads like wildfire. I bet sweet FA people on here have a had good look at Wades keeping and have just jumped on board the can't keep train. There isnt any evidence to suggest he's half as bad as some seem to think.

Like last night, his keeping was good, wtf are people talking about? Hardly noticed him, which means he didnt faulter, which is good. It infurates me this crap that gets raved about his keeping, without actual evidence.

spot on mate,i find it so funny all the big footy legends talking rubbish on here when they have never seen him keep in a proper game .of coarse he still must keep improving which he will with more experience playing for australia as have all our previous keepers.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Both of approximately a year ago (As Wade has not played in SA this year)

Ok, thanks for that. I dare say Wade would have done a shitload of work on it in the meantime, so hopefully it's continuing to improve all the time. He's looked perfectly good to me in the 4 T20's he's played for Australia so far, so hopefully that will continue and only get better.

 

[DaRick]

If we keep making our benchmark for wicketkeeping standards on Bad Hands then we have got nothing to look forward to.

The thing people forget, until his last season, Gilly was a really good keeper. Then before that Healy was fantastic. If only Darren Berry had todays competition back in the day he would have been playing Test match cricket.

Maybe, maybe not. Darren Berry was a very good keeper, but he wasn't a great batsman.

Gilchrist was consistently solid - not quite as good as Healy (he did have more 'off-days' than Healy), but certainly better than Brad Haddin (decent overall until recently).

 

[BluesMan]

Was off Hogg, regulation catch to be honest, forget which over it was as I was watching it at a party, re-watched it when I got home (just to make sure I was right that it was a catch and it wasn't my eyes). That is the issue with Wade, you just cannot drop regulation catches- and this is not me saying Haddin should be in the team. However MAYBE we should wait for Paine, Nevill and Triffit to fight it out. Wade is the perfect T20/ODI keeper as catches are less likely to kill the team, however in a test match I want the keeper catching every catch.

I knew you were going to say that one, I just wanted to see if you were that stupid

Went straight down first slips throat, no where near a keeper catch. You're clueless.

 

[DaRick]

I knew you were going to say that one, I just wanted to see if you were that stupid

Went straight down first slips throat, no where near a keeper catch. You're clueless.

Are you referring to that Kohli edge?

Yes, it was very much a slips catch (slip would've moved slightly to the left to take it), but I knew that somebody here would use it against Wade as soon as I saw it.

 

[SCARD]

Hartley and Paine would have caught it.

 

[BluesMan]

Are you referring to that Kohli edge?

Yes, it was very much a slips catch (slip would've moved slightly to the left to take it), but I knew that somebody here would use it against Wade as soon as I saw it.

Just annoying isn't it? Wade had no chance of getting to it, plus he didnt even make contact so its not a drop anyway

 

[DaRick]

Hartley and Paine would have caught it.

Really doubt it. They're better keepers than Wade, but I don't think they're that much better.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Ok, thanks for that. I dare say Wade would have done a shitload of work on it in the meantime, so hopefully it's continuing to improve all the time. He's looked perfectly good to me in the 4 T20's he's played for Australia so far, so hopefully that will continue and only get better.

I didn't like his foot work or ability to read the ball off a spinner the other night. He took a good catch though.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Time to unleash the C-Mac!

 

[aussie1st]

Triffit needs to move to SA or maybe Nevill if Haddin returns to NSW. Even Ben Dunk could look at moving.

 

[IanG]

I didn't like his foot work

Yet his footwork is better than Haddin.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Time to unleash the C-Mac!

As I was saying! Two wickets in his first 4 balls.

Edit: Whoops, wrong thread! Sorry, play on, thought I was still on the match thread.

 

[Ghostwriter]

Haddin is a disgrace, he needs to go, the sooner he's out of the Test team the better, surely there are keepers in grade cricket better than him.

 

[2222 Richie B]

Haddin is a disgrace, he needs to go, the sooner he's out of the Test team the better, surely there are keepers in grade cricket better than him.

Without a doubt. The best keeper in Australia would be playing grade cricket. He would just be useless with the bat though.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Yet his footwork is better than Haddin.

I'd say it is on par with Haddins.

 

[dan warna]

I'd say it is on par with Haddins.

now you are just trolling.

haddin would have dived for those simple catches and it would have gone passed him with slats stating how baddin tried bravely and there was nothing he could have done.

Also baddin has shown time and time again he can't stop byes.

Nice work wade, you just showed everyone how bad baddin really is

 

[aussierulesrules]

I'd say it is on par with Haddins.

I've actually been very impressed with Wade's footwork, especially off the quicker bowling. Really wide balls in these matches (like balls that were way down leg, or pretty much off the pitch, from Lee and Starc) he's been getting to with ease, with really good and quick footwork. Those sort of really wide balls Haddin has been letting through for byes consistently of late. He might have gotten a glove on them, but that would be about all. If he did get to them, a major dive would have usually been required, or he'd have pulled out the cartwheel.
Wade doesn't look as comfortable against the spin, though, so he'll have to continue to work hard on that. Maybe they could have some sort of spin keeping camp, if he gets the main gig. Have a couple of days sometime, where he keeps to the likes of Hogg and Doherty and Lyon and co. That could help him enormously.
Other than that it's looking all good to me, especially with the batting, which is no surprise to those of us who have seen him piling on the runs for Vicroria.

 

[The Passenger]

Without a doubt. The best keeper in Australia would be playing grade cricket. He would just be useless with the bat though.

pat cummins brother tim, is keeping in first grade and batting 9 or 10. must be pretty handy with the gloves to get picked if he isn't batting in the top order... but i've never seen him. so penrith may just be a bit lacking in keepers. their batting is reasonably strong but not that strong.

one i have seen (though not for about 5 years now) who is brilliant is james allsopp from bankstown in sydney. captain of bankstown now. not many keepers can survive about 7 or 8 years in first grade being as ordinary bat as him - going back to 06/07, when bankstown started using mycricket, he has 4 fifty's in 80 innings at an average of 20 and only occasionally batted in the top seven and is usually sighted at number 8 or 9, and was occasionally down at number 10 a few years back.

 

[Natho]

Some harsh critics of Wade's keeping. He's only 24 and will work extremely hard on his keeping. Far out the bloke can hold a bat. Haddins days are numbered and I hope Wade keeps doing what he is doing and he will keep on improving.

 

[Tazwegian]

To the OP I certainly agree, which it makes it all the more frustrating they are keeping Haddin in. If Wade gets the job before Paine is fit(if he ever is) and Paine is fulltime back in Tassie I can see a Wade scenario happening again with Triffit as I imagine he would be offered the #1 job at a couple of states.

I don't mind that, it would be good for him. Look how well it worked for Wadey. If it gets another Tassie boy into the Aussie squad, I am more than happy for them to move interstate. We have done it for other states, Cowan, Birt and Krejza for example.

I think Triffit is good enough to get a game as a batsmen though, just like Wade would have done more often if he stayed in Tasmania. He may also end up being the specialist keeper if Paine's injury restricts him to batting only.

 

[Thommo 42]

If people think the question mark over Wade's keeping are a bigfooty myth, then Allan Border, Dean Jones, Merv Hughes, Mark Waugh and Greg Chappell must all read plenty of big footy.

All respected media commentators that have questioned his keeping and suggested it needs work within the last month alone.

Sauce: Allan Border on inside cricket last week. Mark Waugh on Inside Cricket 2 weeks prior, Dean Jones on 3AW on Friday afternoon last week.

Apologies, can't remember where I heard Chappell and Hughes

 

[aussierulesrules]

I don't think anyone here doubts that it needs work, but whose keeping wouldn't need work at the age of 24?
And the only real question here is how it compares to Brad Haddin's (unless someone else is genuinely in the mix). If it is equivalent, or better and also likely to continue to improve (more than Haddin's will) and if his batting is better, then it is a bit of a no-brainer, especially in ODI's, where Haddin has made 90 runs in the past 10 months (in 10 innings).

 

[dan warna]

LOL.

Don't forget every catch haddin drops he does so with the australian cricket teams best needs.

Loved the way Wade took a few steps to take a catch instead of diving dramatically like haddin and letting it pass through his hands