Autopsy Autopsy vs Richmond

[Flawed Genius]

 

[kool kangas]

Has he passed his concussion protocol by next weekend?

l dont know but if he does then he should be a straight in selection. If not then l wouldnt be opposed to WillPhil getting a game, if as many here are saying, might be the last time we see him in Roos colours...l cant see us winning anyway..

 

[Moti]

Hope we don't get too rigid. It is good to have a few guys running through there to mix it up (something the Tiges should have done in all honesty - we get concerned about our defensive running but the Hopper, Taranto, Prestia set-up is glacial).

However, it definitely appeared to be clicking like no other point in the season. George's game has gone under the radar - restrained attack on the ball coupled with classy disposal. Now to do it against a good team.

Did Powell play any midfield today? Best midfield performance for this season. Looks like high half forward might be Tommy’s go from now on.

LDU, George and Sheezel look like the locks (with Harry having some time across HF). Parker probably has 12 months left?

I would hope Colby moves into the middle next year and I think FOS has to spend some time there as well.

The final quarter of the Melbourne game was our 2nd best and that was Powell's best game. Not sure where he fits but could depend on how lomng Parker has left.

 

[Moti]

Jy was very good on the wing yesterday

Imagine if he didn't fumble 2 out of every 3 balls and gave first hands!

 

[MrBlueandWhite]

Hopefully the combination of Konstanty and Payne creates a more well rounded, threatening forward line. Along with Trembath, the balance looked nice on the weekend.

I don't mind Konstanty and I understand the concept of a pressure/defensive forward, but nothing makes a defender more accountable than a forward that can kick goals. Ideally we have 6 forwards and multiple mids that hit the scoreboard each week.

 

[giantroo]

 

[franjon]

Needs more Brisbane and big X

.......And Fages, and almost dribbling.

 

[muttley45]

Haven't watched the replay yet, but did we have a "did it hit the post" score review quickly thrown out without the use of snicko ?

 

[Passmore]

40d gets you on the bench. Tough crowd.

 

[danj]

Farewell to Tasmania it was a terrific way to end our time there. I really enjoyed being at the game I’ve always thought the ground itself is amongst the best in the league from a playing surface perspective and the mix of seating from on your arse on the grassy hill to corporate suites is unique in the AFL. It’s also the only ground in Australia where I could go out at halftime and catch a few flatties for dinner! Finally the Tassie crowd with the colours of almost every team on display somewhere in the crowd from a footy mad yet footy starved community. I for one am sadly to see it go

But that’s footy for North fans and I’m already looking at booking my WA holiday for next season

Go Roos!

 

[Event Horizon]

X with 17 tackles. Only Ziebs has had more in a game

Only last week we had plenty of posters saying that he isn't effective and wondering if we've put all eggs in his basket

 

[KiwiRoo]

what odds would you have got when Bull went off that we'd kick 130 plus with no Larkey just Curtis & Darling plus a couple of tradies and a new born giraffe in Whitlock

 

[apollo_creed]

Didn't see much of the game as afternoons are difficult for me but what I saw was imo our best win of the season.

Territorial dominance is not something usually associated with us even in our better wins (Melbourne, Carlton) but the team was able to dominate out the middle and limit their opportunities.

Getting the last two goals was important as well. It was turning into one of those disappointing quarters, but they actually put the brakes on Richmond and kicked the last two goals.

The win against them earlier in the season was disappointing (even/outplayed depending on perspective) as was the West Coast win but this was actually a dominant performance against a side we should be better than.

 

[Event Horizon]

They'll rest and manage a few next week

Would be good if they do. Then lose top spot on the ladder

 

[zoomba23]

We did draw with the Lions.

Their fans felt fortunate we didn't beat them though. Huge missed opportunity

 

[Rod Stroker]

Would be good if they do. Then lose top spot on the ladder

The lowest they can drop is to second, so still 2 home finals

 

[Ischenko]

It’s a thankless role. The effort and willpower required for all that sprinting, to be there for the escape kick out of defense, to run back up forward for the long kick, to participate in link plays, etc it’s why athleticism is prioritised over skill in that role. They’re never going to be “silky” and will always make a mistake or two.

As a side note, I often smh when I read people wanting to cut Scott or Stephens and replace them with more skillful players. Often with someone who will never have the heart to cover that distance. It just shows a misunderstanding of the role and system needed.

If you can find a player who can combo both (rare) watch out. Langdon, J Daicos, Amon, etc go alright.

So much this. It’s a team sport, and this board has become so toxic (cos our team has been so bad, admittedly) that otherwise intelligent people forget these things.

 

[Waynesworld]

what odds would you have got when Bull went off that we'd kick 130 plus with no Larkey just Curtis & Darling plus a couple of tradies and a new born giraffe in Whitlock

Yep was going to mention this.

To be controversial - does not having Bull and Larkey give us a more unpredictable, flexible, mobile and potentially more potent forward line?

Hawthorn have proved to be quite effective with a smaller more agile forward setup, yet we seem to have been continually pushing towards the 3 tall targets with very limited success.

With our history of pretty average inside 50 entries, does the chaos theory work better without a designated key target?

Or did the absence of both Bull and Larkey just allow the more experienced Darling to control and coordinate the forward structures better?

Was it simply that Curtis needs to ply his (brilliant) trade in more space, without the dominant Zurhaar controlling the narrative?

Or did the lack of pressure from Richmond's midfield simply mean that the ball was coming in under less pressure.

I don't know the answer, maybe a combination of all, but it was certainly a very different and potentially more damaging look yesterday.

 

[KiwiRoo]

Yep was going to mention this.

To be controversial - does not having Bull and Larkey give us a more unpredictable, flexible, mobile and potentially more potent forward line?

Hawthorn have proved to be quite effective with a smaller more agile forward setup, yet we seem to have been continually pushing towards the 3 tall targets with very limited success.

With our history of pretty average inside 50 entries, does the chaos theory work better without a designated key target?

Or did the absence of both Bull and Larkey just allow the more experienced Darling to control and coordinate the forward structures better?

Was it simply that Curtis needs to ply his (brilliant) trade in more space, without the dominant Zuurhar controlling the narrative?

Or did the lack of pressure from Richmond's midfield simply mean that the ball was coming in under less pressure.

I don't know the answer, maybe a combination of all, but it was certainly a very different and potentially more damaging look yesterday.

definitely a combination
we definitely lowered our eyes more than we have in the past, plus the mids took it upon themselves to become an option up fwd or kick it themselves on the run
I think you're right about Bull too. He does seem to want to contest every mark...not always a help....we looked a bit more organised without him

and as for Tigers.. well they just had no wheels, so we had a bit more time to make decisions.

anyway.. good win and a bit of confidence for the players and the fans

 

[Event Horizon]

The lowest they can drop is to second, so still 2 home finals

True. But still I suppose there would be some desire to finish top

 

[franjon]

what odds would you have got when Bull went off that we'd kick 130 plus with no Larkey just Curtis & Darling plus a couple of tradies and a new born giraffe in Whitlock

I think the kid is going to be a player, but not as a key forward. But, he really should have worn the long sleeves with those arms.

 

[franjon]

Who?

The male version of Caroline Wilson.

 

[giantroo]

 

[franjon]

For all his flaws there were multiple times he pushed all the way back into their goal square. Altho he gave away one goal very early because he didn't compete hard enough (gave away a soft free in front of goal) other times he was able to support the backline enough that we won the ball back and on a few occasions went coast to coast to kick a goal.

We've a way to go, but premiership teams can carry foot soldiers, but not players that are almost frightened of physical contact. Brereton mentioned it a few times, and trying to find a way to be diplomatic about it, but he was basically saying that he hangs out, and he does. It's the uneducated way to put it, but you do have to take one for the betterment of the team occasionally, and I'm not sure that he's prepared to. He seems to be more worried about getting hurt.

 

[KiwiRoo]

I think the kid is going to be a player, but not as a key forward. But, he really should have worn the long sleeves with those arms.

reckon...bit like me wearing a tight singlet to show off my AB's