Autopsy Autopsy vs WCE

[LETSGOKANGAS]

Forget playing;

Depleted swines team where 12 of their best 22 out getting absolutely smashed

Being belted by a depleted Carltank side on GFri and being absolutely smashed

Coming up against a depleted collingwood team with 10 of their best out and being absolutely torched

Playing a dogs side with 10 of them out and couldn’t get over the line.

10 goal loss to GC, 9 goal loss to AC.

We lost to * who are ****ing trash.

Whether you suggest 5.5 wins is par. Our claim this season is drawing with brisbane and belting melbourne?

No improvement and the team has gone backwards. We couldn’t have had a better draw against better teams missing personnel and we have been belted.

There is absolutely nothing to take out of 2025 other than we are still shit, a disorganised club, unserious, lead by inept and incompetence people from the top down.

Yesterday was Bradys team vs Bradys team… if that is a body of work for a list manager, the bloke shouldn’t be allowed within 100 metres of a football club again.

Totally agree. No true North supporter should be happy with where we are at. We've been through enough yet still linger in the AFL basement.

But there has to be some sort of measuring stick. What ticks your box this year? A few more close brave loses and maybe finish with 6.5 wins?

Yesterday was just yuck. But I would bloody take the comeback win over bending over and losing by 22+, especially in a year where we dont have a first.

 

[Gasometer]

Sometimes it honestly feels like people want us to lose just so they can be proven right. It's perverse.

It then justifies Trading the Captain whose boot in consecutive years won us the game

 

[Gasometer]

If we come away from this sell your soul to the devil cross roads moment with a 1-1 return it’s satisfactory but a 0-2 would have manure trucks turning up next Monday morning

 

[Flawed Genius]

I didn’t want to win like that.

 

[krakouers]

I'd be interested to see the back page of today's West Australian though.

 

[King Corey]

Haven't caught up on full thread, posting prematurely. Oh yeh.

I'll say what I'll say everytime - a win is a win. We won.

It's disingenuous to dismiss honourable losses while discrediting 'ugly' wins. And I won't be.

We have application, structural and personnel issues all over the park. But we worked together when it mattered and get to enjoy the spoils.

Special mentions to: Simpkin, Parker, Zurhaar (ridiculously maligned on here), Xerri, FOS, Colby, Sheezel, Pink. Funny that on quick reflection I can't pinpoint particular howler games apart from Larkey.

On Nick - in the calm of the next day, he's just in a slump. He looked noticeably exhausted and frustrated. It happens to plenty of good players, he probably needs that game he gets a couple of easy ones to restore his confidence. He looks and plays like a man out on his feet right now.

 

[shinboner magic]

@TheTruthNMFC
George didn’t have his usual high standard of game today. It looked like the Eagles targeted him. But he still laid the most tackles (7) and applied the most pressure acts (20) for a North Melbourne player, while playing just 69% of the match


6:33 PM · Jun 8, 2025
https://x.com/Sharpy87466745


Powell had 30 with 2% more game time.Love Wardlaw, but he needs to find the ball as well as preasure. Sheezel went on the ball in the last and had 12 for the qtr.




Wow who runs @TheTruthNMFC account?
Blocked from commenting for my reply to the above George post, thought it was a fair reply?
I thought these pages liked fan engagement?
?

This guy is a tosser and blocks anyone that puts a different point of view

 

[Caracas]

Last time we came back from three goals in the last quarter? I can remember, I think, a game against PA in about 2015. Then there’s that great win against the Pies in 2008, I think? Any others more recently?

 

[speedy]

Sometimes it honestly feels like people want us to lose just so they can be proven right. It's perverse.

There might be 1 or 2 like that, but I think most of the negative types (like me) just want to see real improvement. Not ugly wins against teams that are even worse than us.

 

[Caracas]

Haven't caught up on full thread, posting prematurely. Oh yeh.

I'll say what I'll say everytime - a win is a win. We won.

It's disingenuous to dismiss honourable losses while discrediting 'ugly' wins. And I won't be.

We have application, structural and personnel issues all over the park. But we worked together when it mattered and get to enjoy the spoils.

Special mentions to: Simpkin, Parker, Zurhaar (ridiculously maligned on here), Xerri, FOS, Colby, Sheezel, Pink. Funny that on quick reflection I can't pinpoint particular howler games apart from Larkey.

On Nick - in the calm of the next day, he's just in a slump. He looked noticeably exhausted and frustrated. It happens to plenty of good players, he probably needs that game he gets a couple of easy ones to restore his confidence. He looks and plays like a man out on his feet right now.

That mark by Z in the last was pretty special. I had to rewatch it in slow motion to work out how he did it. Then, he followed it up by drilling it.

 

[koshari]

There might be 1 or 2 like that, but I think most of the negative types (like me) just want to see real improvement. Not ugly wins against teams that are even worse than us.

truth is if wet toast kicked straight that game was done at half time, but they didnt and we were able to extract a digit late in the game and salvage a win, the premiership points for mine are moot, the experience in playing under pressure late in a game is worthwhile. and also the percentage hovering round 80 percent tells a story of improvement from the 55 to 60 days, but sheesh we still have a bloody long way to go, and iam not convinced we have the cattle just yet.

 

[Souup]

Alright. I got you here.

15 point loss in Round 1 against a very good Dogs side:

No Bont and the other 10 players that make their best 22.

also were on top of Gold Coast for 3 quarters:

We lost by 9 goals. Dgaf. Serious improvement there.

respectable performance against Adelaide in Adelaide:

We lost by 8 goals. Again, no improvement.

Now, % is flattered because teams failed to convert against us. Collingwood kicked 3.8 in the third quarter, should have been close to 100 points. West coast kicked an abundance of points yesterday, should have been another dent to the %. If Sydney, Carlton and Collingwood were at full strength or even 80% strength, that % comes down again.

That % is just flat out flattering of where we are at.

Its undeniable.

Not all shots are equal. There's no nuance in stating Collingwood kicked 3.8 in the 3rd and if they were accurate it would have been a bigger loss. Here's what the stats actually say about both our and opposition accuracy this season:
Our expected score: -0.6
Opposition expected score: +3.0

If you want the Collingwood game specifically, they actually kicked +5.2 and we were +4.2. Basically them being inaccurate is based on how you felt about it without context.

The arguments being used against our game yesterday is basically the total opposite of the criticisms of the Gold Coast game. We played 3 quarters against the Gold Coast and 1 bad one - the performance was there for the most part but we lost. Yesterday, the performance wasn't there for 3 quarters but it was for one - and we got the win. Either way, people were/are complaining.

It seems that unless we win 4 quarters every week, it's impossible to be pleased. A team might win 4 quarters once or twice a week - even the best teams in the comp rarely play 4 quarters. They'll play a bad quarter, half or even game but manage to find a way, which is what we did yesterday. Brisbane almost lost to WC in Brisbane after only turning up in the final quarter similar to us.

The full strength thing I've never been a big fan of - I've used it before too but it's a weak point in the grand scheme of things. Football is a system game and you're almost never at full strength. If we're wanting to talk about who is and isn't available and how fit they are, we could use an argument about the value of Archer, PC suspension, Xerri hampered early in the season, Wardlaw missing a sizeable portion, Sheezel? - it goes both ways. System beats talent ultimately and pointing at the strength or lack thereof of a side is fine, but it's just not a great argument imo. Others can disagree and that's fine.

 

[Psi-Roos]

If we come away from this sell your soul to the devil cross roads moment with a 1-1 return it’s satisfactory but a 0-2 would have manure trucks turning up next Monday morning

1-1 is what I honestly expected from this journey. So a pleasant surprise would be 2-0. Especially as i'll be home and at Optus next week and have been getting stick from my Freo supporting Fiancée.

Either way. We are on par. Expected 7 wins this year. 3.5 at the halfway mark. Game yesterday was shit but we have some glacial progress.

 

[hurricane]

On Nick - in the calm of the next day, he's just in a slump. He looked noticeably exhausted and frustrated. It happens to plenty of good players, he probably needs that game he gets a couple of easy ones to restore his confidence. He looks and plays like a man out on his feet right now.

There’s no question he is deep in a slump at the moment. But for all our frustration at his poor choices and complaining to the umpires, at least 2-3 times yesterday he presented well up the ground and marked strongly to give us an outlet from our defensive 50.

He’s still working hard - form will turn.

 

[ferball]

We won four straight in 19/20 - last two of 2019 and first two of 2020.

We've kind of forgotten about it because of how badly it all ended but Rhyce Shaw's tenure started with a 5-1 run, then three losses, then another 5-1 run.

Yeah. Shaw's 2019 was good. Maybe it was Scott's game plan and Shaw's attitude that made it work.

 

[ferball]

This problem that we have in our competitive psychology does a disservice to the talents we have at our disposal. In today's game I think 'it' happened about halfway through the second - the fumbles, the lack of running - it's utterly horrendous and we need to do better. If we achieve one thing this season, please let it be a permanent shift away from this mental frailty that has been holding us hostage for the past five years.

Yesterday was a big step in that direction imo. (Same with the Richmond game but for different reasons. In that game we just took the pressure and didn't break because of it.)

Yesterday we played like shit but when the game was there to be won a bunch of our players, from first years like FOS to old bastards like Luke Parker, just refused to lose. They lifted and did everything in their power to win the game and we won.

Maybe at that point the game should have been beyond us, but it wasn't.

We had the chance to win it and we took that chance. Better than Hobart last year that's for sure.

 

[DocSholl]

There might be 1 or 2 like that, but I think most of the negative types (like me) just want to see real improvement. Not ugly wins against teams that are even worse than us.

I think any win at this stage is progress, particularly wins where we need to.come from behind. There's a pretty massive mental block with this playing group

 

[ferball]

There's some gross happy clapping going on here; nothing about that performance intrinsically suggests hope for the future. I wasn't initially going to try and pull it apart but some of the vitriol from 'more positive' posters is ridiculous. The reason some people aren't happy, campaigners, is because we should've outgrown that sort of performance years ago.

You're tripping.

Yesterday we had 8 players under 23 in the 23 and all of them, even the sub, contributed to the win. Years ago, when you reckon we should have outgrown this, they were still in high school. In the last quarter a whole bunch of them tried to put the side on their back and we won because of it.

If that doesn't give you hope for the future nothing will.

 

[DuckYeah]

What ticks your box this year?

To not be a continued embarrassment to the entire competition.

The bench mark is to start winning games we shouldn’t win and winning games we should win.

To witness a functional game plan that can stack up with the top teams, this doesn’t mean by round 8 the crisis meeting of coaches and come up with the genius idea pushing back on defence, create a contest and possess the ball. They basically conceded the season was over by round 8 as Clarksons whizbang game plan is unable to be executed.

By no means did I think we could be a top 8 team. But I do believe we should be winning against mid table teams and dismissing the bottom 3 or 4 with ease. That was my benchmark and it seems far from reality. Maybe in 2026

 

[RobZombie]

People will accuse me of ignoring all of the negatives and being conned or whatever, but the fact that we were able to withstand three full quarters of maximum pressure from Richmond and West Coast (albeit the other two worst teams) and still win should at least be slightly encouraging? No?

Would have thought so. I mean qualitatively the team has done things they haven’t the past few years: finished strong, not dropped their heads when they get behind, come from behind, ice games when leading narrowly, adjust in-game.

Far from perfect and you’d like a couple more of those to show up in the win column but there’s only been a couple of completely dire games.

 

[Passmore]

Themanbun you’re a fan of his analysis.

 

[ferball]

To not be a continued embarrassment to the entire competition.

The bench mark is to start winning games we shouldn’t win and winning games we should win.

To witness a functional game plan that can stack up with the top teams, this doesn’t mean by round 8 the crisis meeting of coaches and come up with the genius idea pushing back on defence, create a contest and possess the ball. They basically conceded the season was over by round 8 as Clarksons whizbang game plan is unable to be executed.

By no means did I think we could be a top 8 team. But I do believe we should be winning against mid table teams and dismissing the bottom 3 or 4 with ease. That was my benchmark and it seems far from reality. Maybe in 2026

I tought in the pre season you said you didn't expect to see much before the bye.

 

[barnrokn]

How bad are the Eagles?

14 points worse than us

 

[Event Horizon]

The footy/win aside one thing I would say is even if it seems a long distance consider coming over for this week next year. A great feeling in town last night and a packed house at a ripping suburban venue today - where we had truckloads of support. The Bellerive games seriously don't have a patch on today from an atmosphere viewpoint.

I'm in Dunsborough now which is an hour away and I walked into the brew pub to cheers from two different tables of NM fans This deal will be a good thing for our club.

How did you get tickets to the game? I tried to enquire earlier in the year and was told the only way to guarantee them was to buy the WA membership, which for a family wasn't cheap, given I already pay for the family Social Club membership in Victoria. Was just hoping to buy tickets for one of the two games

 

[north_lad]

There might be 1 or 2 like that, but I think most of the negative types (like me) just want to see real improvement. Not ugly wins against teams that are even worse than us.

No argument there, the mood on here is just so sour at the moment and I get it - during Q2 and Q3 I couldn't believe what I was seeing and felt even worse than I did at the Hawthorn game last year (at the point when we were both 0-5 and they did as they pleased with us) - BUT it's very, very easy to just sit back and pot the team under the guise of "I'm just being realistic" or whatever. Many radio and TV commentators are making a tidy living out of it. At the end of the day, it's just tiring to read over and over again "we're shit" "we're not getting better" "we only beat X/Y/Z/" "team B had X/Y/Z missing" etc.

I think we ARE getting better, albeit very very slowly. Of course there is a long way to go, but **** it I would rather be hopeful and proven wrong than be pessimistic and proven right.