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Smith is just a really aggressive guy. It’s actually insane how aggressive one 20 year old can be.
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It may have been a little floggish as an act but it has zero to do with his mental health issues.A clear run in and shove to a player who lost a marking contest and team is getting belted when Smith wasn't even the one who took the mark, that is the epitome of a ******* w***er. Especially when he has a cry about mental health
The stepping over the player didn't seem too bad though
"Mentally abusive" hahaha
Under no circumstances may he show aggression on field because he has off field issues?
He pushed a player. That's it.Yes. He needs to live by his words.
Under no circumstances can I walk around knocking down trees if I am a advocate for environmental protection either.
These are pretty basic human concepts here mate. Live by example of your actions, not by the noise from your mouth
He pushed a player. That's it.
I'd be more concerned if he was acting like that on the street than any act on field tbh. There may also be more to the story about him shoving Ziebel, who knows.Its a pattern though as Dermie is saying.
I mean, how do you expect to improve your mental health if you dont make changes to your life? Have you ever met a ultra aggressive person who was happy? I havnt
He pushed a player. That's it.
... a minute after Ziebull rubbed Bruce's face in the dirt after a tackle.A clear run in and shove to a player who lost a marking contest and team is getting belted when Smith wasn't even the one who took the mark, that is the epitome of a ******* w***er. Especially when he has a cry about mental health
There's no issue with commentators calling Smith out for a bit too much aggression if that's their opinion (although as Mofra says, it's probably a good thing for the Bulldogs that he is there to fly the flag). The problem is with Dermie conflating the on-field push and shove with mental health issues off it. They're not the same thing.I think you'd find an example every game Smith plays, he loves getting in the face of his opponents when they make a mistake, it feeds his energy and makes him the player he is, he's good enough to talk the talk and walk the walk so all the power to him.
People may call him out like Dermie but he shouldn't worry about it if he's performing the way he is.
There's no issue with commentators calling Smith out for a bit too much aggression if that's their opinion (although as Mofra says, it's probably a good thing for the Bulldogs that he is there to fly the flag). The problem is with Dermie conflating the on-field push and shove with mental health issues off it. They're not the same thing.
I can fully see why that would rub people the wrong way, if he wasn't a Bulldogs player I'd probably hate it too. I enjoyed it on the weekend though.He didn't need to go Ziebell that hard when they were already down by 120 points, I'd argue Ziebell was pretty low mentally at that moment, Smith wanted to rub it in. Next time he's in that situation he won't do that again and instead just celebrate the Bruce mark.
And Smith isn't the only one, Guelfi loves doing this for us, he did it to Ross when Parish tackled him late.
I can fully see why that would rub people the wrong way, if he wasn't a Bulldogs player I'd probably hate it too. I enjoyed it on the weekend though.
I can fully see why that would rub people the wrong way, if he wasn't a Bulldogs player I'd probably hate it too. I enjoyed it on the weekend though.
He's come out in January and said we need more awareness around mental health for players. His actions are completely counterproductive to his message.It’s another example of the media crying out for players to show personality and then potting one of the few blokes who does what they ask.
I’d be disappointed if Smith changes his attitude at all in response to this, I think it’s part of what makes him a special talent.
You’re up by 130 points ******* humiliate them and let them know about it, I love it. Baz, Naughty, Vandermeer etc all have that killer edge and It’s the difference between the side we are looking like now and the side that was supremely talented but rolled over in prelim after prelim in the past. I hope Baz Takes it to another level.
Geez it’s football mate, if you had a couple of players with the same competitive edge in 2016 you probably wouldn’t have let us run all over the top of you in the last quarter.Beat them by 130 if you can, that is fine, but you still don't need to be a dick about it. It is like the smartest kid in the class running up to the kid who really struggles and doing a victory dance over his test results in the struggling kids face.
There is such a thing about being a good loser, and there is also a thing about being a good winner.
That's just the two examples that Dermie gave. There's more than that. Go and rewatch the game against Blues last year, if you can put yourself through it again. He was giving it to Walsh at EVERY single opportunity. Even gave him an elbow to the back of the head at one stage. Walsh just took the hits and went about his business winning the Carlton the game.Steps over a player and gives a bit of a shove to another after they lose marking contest, as happens numerous times every single game. What a bully, any mental health concerns must now be ignored.
The stepping over seemed like a very measured and deliberate attempt at intimidation and disrespect. Not too bad at first glance, but more than meets the eye.A clear run in and shove to a player who lost a marking contest and team is getting belted when Smith wasn't even the one who took the mark, that is the epitome of a ******* w***er. Especially when he has a cry about mental health
The stepping over the player didn't seem too bad though
It’s another example of the media crying out for players to show personality and then potting one of the few blokes who does what they ask.
I’d be disappointed if Smith changes his attitude at all in response to this, I think it’s part of what makes him a special talent.
Flying the flag is one thing. I don't have a problem with that if you're just standing up for your teammates who might have copped a bit of attention, and that may have been the case with Ziebell (I haven't really seen the whole thing), but it's becoming a bit of a pattern for Smith and seems to be extending beyond flying the flag.Doggies have gone from a team that did nothing in that elimination final against gws when bontempelli was getting smashed all day , literally had he’s eyes gouged by Toby Greene to having blokes like smith Libba and josh Bruce with a bit of mongrel who will fly the flag and back up their mates and I couldn’t be more proud of them. Hope smith doesn’t change a thing .
Good on him with a high profile bringing much needed spotlight to mental health.
That's fine, and I agree. It's one of those things where you don't mind having a player on your own team doing it a bit, but not so much when it's an opposition player.That's just the two examples that Dermie gave. There's more than that. Go and rewatch the game against Blues last year, if you can put yourself through it again. He was giving it to Walsh at EVERY single opportunity. Even gave him an elbow to the back of the head at one stage. Walsh just took the hits and went about his business winning the Carlton the game.
Smith's a great player. Just needs to dial down the faux aggression a bit, and Walsh probably needs to dial it up a little.