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dan warna said:
growing up as a kid guy faukes was the big cracker night.
Guy Fawkes is a little bit of an embarrasment now. Celebrates the time when a small group of Catholic Brits attempted to overthrow the Protestant government in order to prompt a Spanish invasion of Brittain and an end to Catholics being oppressed.

It was largely a celebration of anti-Catholic sentiment. Not something polite society likes to remember.
 
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Guy Fawkes is a little bit of an embarrasment now. Celebrates the time when a small group of Catholic Brits attempted to overthrow the Protestant government in order to prompt a Spanish invasion of Brittain and an end to Catholics being oppressed.

It was largely a celebration of anti-Catholic sentiment. Not something polite society likes to remember.
Edit: to prompt a Spanish invasion and return England to a state in which the Catholics were the oppressors.

You cannot seriously contend that the catholic church in that era was a force for ending oppression.....Fawkes died in 1606, bang in the middle of the Spanish Inquisition (1478-1834).

Now *that* is something a polite society would try and sweep under the rug. ;)
 

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Ban Halloween? Should we jail anyone that continues to practice the ritual?

Personally, I just don't recognise it, and rarely have anyone come round trick n' treating. However if they do I find it is an excellent opportunity to clean out the pantry of any stale/out of date items.
 

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You cannot seriously contend that the catholic church in that era was a force for ending oppression.....Fawkes died in 1606, bang in the middle of the Spanish Inquisition (1478-1834).
Of course not and I didn't say it. You are too eager to pick a fight :)

The Catholics had hoped that James 1 (a Catholic) would again make it legal to practice their religion and to restore their rights. When he didn't they decided they'd try to overthrow him.

Anyway the Spanish Inquisition is one of history's great myths. It was mostly about the re-Christianisation of Spain after the defeat of the Moors. It has a bad reputation thanks to our Anglo-centric version of history where Spain was the enemy. It actually served to reduce the number of deaths and executions as a vehicle for clearing people of accusations against them.

There are about 5000 documented executions at the hands of the Spanish Inquisition over its life, but more than 150,000 documented witch burnings alone elsewhere.
 

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Weaver said:
Of course not and I didn't say it. You are too eager to pick a fight :)

The Catholics had hoped that James 1 (a Catholic) would again make it legal to practice their religion and to restore their rights. When he didn't they decided they'd try to overthrow him.

Anyway the Spanish Inquisition is one of history's great myths. It was mostly about the re-Christianisation of Spain after the defeat of the Moors. It has a bad reputation thanks to our Anglo-centric version of history where Spain was the enemy. It actually served to reduce the number of deaths and executions as a vehicle for clearing people of accusations against them.

There are about 5000 documented executions at the hands of the Spanish Inquisition over its life, but more than 150,000 documented witch burnings alone elsewhere.
James I WASNT a Catholic,his wife was brought up as a catholic.His son married a catholic and was influenced by catholic advisers,but wasnt a catholic himself.If you think James I[VI of Scotland]was catholic read his theological writings,and he was quite a good theologian,perhaps the best of his time,and you'll see his Theology had little to do with Catholicism.
 
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