bartel vs mitchell

[geelong_crazy26]

achievemnets

bartel
brownlow
premiership player
All Australian

mitchell
All australian player
club best and fairest
rising star winner

 

[NGHAWK]

What would your answer have been mid-07 before the brownlow and premiership??
Mitchell will win a Brownlow and a Premiership and once that happens the answer will be obvious.
Sam is definately the better player even though their roles are different.
And Bartel could never be a Captain.

 

[augie]

What would your answer have been mid-07 before the brownlow and premiership??
Mitchell will win a Brownlow and a Premiership and once that happens the answer will be obvious.
Sam is definately the better player even though their roles are different.
And Bartel could never be a Captain.

Bartel is so far above Mitchell it is not funny. Surely not even Hawks supporters could agree with you on this one. Any why could Bartel never be captain?

 

[NGHAWK]

Bartel is so far above Mitchell it is not funny. Surely not even Hawks supporters could agree with you on this one. Any why could Bartel never be captain?

Come on please!
Even though the question is debatable, it's obvious the difference in not 'so far', otherwise the poll wouldn't exist.


Bartel has no leadership skills, he's a conservitave bloke who just goes about his business. And does so very well.

 

[mark73]

Mitchell isn't in the same league as Bartel.

 

[NGHAWK]

Mitchell isn't in the same league as Bartel.

Agreed. One day Bartel might get there.




And Brownlows obviously have nothing to do with it because GAblett is classified better than Bartel.

 

[Lynch takes a mark]

Bartel has a more complete game than Mitchell, has the overhead ability and the longer kicking so get the nod for me

Massive fan of Mitchell, I think he will win the Brownlow this year.

 

[Team Mo']

bartel's only real good year was last year...

so therefore he is the better player at the moment...

however in a few years when hawks become more succesful mitchell will even up the gap with a brownlow and a premiership cup..

 

[geelong_crazy26]

What would your answer have been mid-07 before the brownlow and premiership??
Mitchell will win a Brownlow and a Premiership and once that happens the answer will be obvious.
Sam is definately the better player even though their roles are different.
And Bartel could never be a Captain.

sorry mate but you just cant ignore a premiership medal and a brownlow lol nice try tho

 

[geelong_crazy26]

bartel's only real good year was last year...

so therefore he is the better player at the moment...

however in a few years when hawks become more succesful mitchell will even up the gap with a brownlow and a premiership cup..

so what you are just going to assume hawthorn will win a premiership and Mitchell wiill win a brownlow ? thats a bit silly isn't it ?

 

[Team Mo']

so what you are just going to assume hawthorn will win a premiership and Mitchell wiill win a brownlow ? thats a bit silly isn't it ?

what???

whats wrong with saying a gun player will win a brownlow and a good team will win a premiership...

i guarantee hawks win a premiership with mitchell playing there....

and next time don't set up a poll to bag someone if they disagree with your poll, you silly billy...

 

[geelong_crazy26]

what???

whats wrong with saying a gun player will win a brownlow and a good team will win a premiership...

i guarantee hawks win a premiership with mitchell playing there....

and next time don't set up a poll to bag someone if they disagree with your poll, you silly billy...

yehp there is a problem with saying a gun player will win a brownlow because there are lots of gun players in the afl and only one a year can win the brownlow,which means a number of gun players will miss out.Same gos with a premiership a number of good teams will miss out.

bottom line is weather you like it or not bartel has a brownlow ,mitchell doesnt have a brownlow.bartel has a premiership medal,mitchell doesn't have a premiership medal.

lol im sorry if i offended you but mate most people over the age of 7 know that you judge players on awards that they have achieved not awards that you have made up in your head

 

[Upgrayedd]

bartel was under-preforming, and trade bait untill 2007
Mitchell has been elite for 3-4 years now, came third in the Brownlow this year, and has a rising star

Also mitchell hasnt won all-australian. which in itself is an injustice and probably is the best AFL player to be without the honour.

When Bartel has two "decent" years, which he has never had, come back

 

[PUSSIES_07_FLAG]

Mitchell is so elite he can't kick a 30m set shot goal. Missed 2-3 of them in the NAB cup games.

I laugh.
Bartel kicks them on his left from 50, standing start.

See the Grand final, 1st qtr.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

bartel was under-preforming, and trade bait untill 2007
Mitchell has been elite for 3-4 years now, came third in the Brownlow this year, and has a rising star

Also mitchell hasnt won all-australian. which in itself is an injustice and probably is the best AFL player to be without the honour.

When Bartel has two "decent" years, which he has never had, come back

when mitchell has a premiership medallion and a brownlow medal around his neck than you can come back

by the way isn't it a bit strange how all these hawthorn players have been elite for so long and all these geelong players are 1 year wonders (won year premiership wonders) yet this is the performance of these 2 clubs over the last 5 years

07 cats 1st vs hakws 6th
06 cats 10th vs hakws 11th
05 cats 5th vs hawks 14th
04 cats 4th vs hawks 15th
03 cats 12th vs hawks 9th

very interesting

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Mitchell. Best clearance mid in the comp

 

[Upgrayedd]

when mitchell has a premiership medallion and a brownlow medal around his neck than you can come back

So by your books Lewis Roberts Thompson is a better player then Matthew Egan?

 

[ripitup27]

Over their careers, Mitchell averages 1 more disposal a game, Bartel averages 2 more marks a game, 2 more tackles a game and nearly 1 more goal a game.

Much of a muchness really. I think Bartel is more polished but I would.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

So by your books Lewis Roberts Thompson is a better player then Matthew Egan?

you have gone to a extreme example there, they are not in the same league where as bartel and mitchell are relatively evenly matched.Robert Thompson dosent hasnt won a brownlow either

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Over their careers, Mitchell averages 1 more disposal a game, Bartel averages 2 more marks a game, 2 more tackles a game and nearly 1 more goal a game.

Much of a muchness really. I think Bartel is more polished but I would.

and those stats are over there entire career, This theory that hawthorn supporters make up about mitchell being more consistent really isn't supported by any facts at all.

 

[Team Mo']

yehp there is a problem with saying a gun player will win a brownlow because there are lots of gun players in the afl and only one a year can win the brownlow,which means a number of gun players will miss out.Same gos with a premiership a number of good teams will miss out.

bottom line is weather you like it or not bartel has a brownlow ,mitchell doesnt have a brownlow.bartel has a premiership medal,mitchell doesn't have a premiership medal.

lol im sorry if i offended you but mate most people over the age of 7 know that you judge players on awards that they have achieved not awards that you have made up in your head

i didnt say mitchell is just as good because he will win a premiership and a brownlow..

i said once he does win those awards he will be seen in the same light as jimmy

 

[geelong_crazy26]

i didnt say mitchell is just as good because he will win a premiership and a brownlow..

i said once he does win those awards he will be seen in the same light as jimmy

but hawthorn carent win the premiership becausee they are not us good as geelong and mitchell cant win a brownlow because hes not as good as bartell, thats why geelong won the premiership and bartel won the brownlow because they are the best

 

[rainman06]

but hawthorn carent win the premiership becausee they are not us good as geelong and mitchell cant win a brownlow because hes not as good as bartell, thats why geelong won the premiership and bartel won the brownlow because they are the best

What an epiphany! such genius

 

[Upgrayedd]

you have gone to a extreme example there, they are not in the same league where as bartel and mitchell are relatively evenly matched.Robert Thompson dosent hasnt won a brownlow either

Neither does egan.
Egan doesnt have a Premiership, Roberts-Thompson does

Lewis Roberts-Thompson>Matthew Egan

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Neither does egan.
Egan doesnt have a Premiership, Roberts-Thompson does

Lewis Roberts-Thompson>Matthew Egan

Your example would be better if Robert-Thompson had a brownlow because it is the brownlow more so than the premiership medal that makes bartel a better player than mitchell.If Robert-thompson was a brownlow medalist than I would say hands down he is a better player than egan.

good to see that bartel is running away with this poll ,he really is much better