Media Baz Stats S31

[Barrybran]

He might get confused with previous seasons need to ensure he is looking at the right numbers

I haven't bumped any of my old threads

 

[Muddiemoose]

I haven't bumped any of my old threads

Crazier things have happened
Always got to be prepared

 

[Barrybran]

Crazier things have happened
Always got to be prepared

Meh. Preparation means work.

 

[Genghis Tron]

There are more stats threads?

No.

 

[Barrybran]

Round 12
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Back Pocket				Full Back				Half Back Flank
PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT
boncer34	MBD	462		NaturalDisaster	CIW	557		omgfridge	GUM	618
Stronzo	CIW	384		Art Vandelay_	LVB	524		Genghis Tron	GUM	608
Noobz0r	GCR	361		Sterge	FUR	429		serial_thrilla	DRA	587
CALL ME SNAKE	BOM	344		BallaratBulldog	WON	399		royboy2	ROY	571
Chief	DRA	301		Pie 4 Life	DRA	381		sante	MBD	571
Centre Half Back				Wing				Centre
PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT
MWPP	LVB	623		Matt_352	DRA	1,005		Kilroy	BOM	894
RelaxMax	CIW	602		por_please_ya	ESH	963		Runk	ROY	872
eth-dog	ESH	582		guero	LVB	918		DemonJim	MBD	859
Jivlain	GUM	565		Tonga Bob	CIW	917		kdavva74	CIW	854
brahj	GCR	563		SM	ESH	875		Western Stand Warrior	LVB	744
Half Forward Flank				Centre Half Forward				Forward Pocket
PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT
sausageroll	MBD	813		SarahSmiles	SCS	758		RookiePick	LVB	389
Cuzz09	LVB	801		cooney	MBD	660		Heardy_101	MBD	366
Dero	MBD	690		TJASTA	FUR	647		Blaze Storm	DRA	319
Ulahoopski	GCR	679		Golumless	ESH	614		Ashman OG	DRA	313
kickthething	BOM	677		CakeEater	GCR	592		iDon	BOM	289
Full Forward				Ruck				Ruck Rover
PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT
harry000	CIW	689		Muddiemoose	LVB	1,151		The Half Back	CIW	1,053
Hatchy1992	SCS	663		Strigoi	DRA	979		Marlowe	GCR	1,047
Metalcrusher	LVB	661		GreyCrow	GCR	979		Supersuns	ROY	982
Proper Gander	MBD	619		Barrybran	GUM	953		RobR	BOM	974
Bonz	DRA	617		Hate	ESH	924		pantskyle	MBD	940
Rover				Interchange
PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT
TheInjuryFactory	CIW	969		Edmund hunt	FUR	561
Pugsley	BOM	930		Maylandsman	DRA	433
Mister M	FUR	853		WaywardSonSon	ROY	407
T2B_	DRA	848		ChappyUK	FUR	398
manangatang	MBD	829		Headless	MBD	334

 

[serial_thrilla]

Genghis Tron omgfridge

 

[Genghis Tron]

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[Genghis Tron]

Still on top. Sadly The Gumbies recent form has seen the ball down our way less often than usual so we aren't getting as many cheap possessions as Thrilla.

 

[omgfridge]

 

[Barrybran]

Round 13
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Back Pocket				Full Back				Half Back Flank
PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT
boncer34	MBD	467		NaturalDisaster	CIW	572		omgfridge	GUM	655
Noobz0r	GCR	434		Art Vandelay_	LVB	550		sante	MBD	640
Stronzo	CIW	410		Sterge	FUR	470		Genghis Tron	GUM	628
CALL ME SNAKE	BOM	378		Pie 4 Life	DRA	425		jmoo wan	MBD	613
Chief	DRA	316		BallaratBulldog	WON	399		serial_thrilla	DRA	596
Centre Half Back				Wing				Centre
PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT
MWPP	LVB	696		Matt_352	DRA	1,100		kdavva74	CIW	978
RelaxMax	CIW	664		Tonga Bob	CIW	1,059		Runk	ROY	955
eth-dog	ESH	630		por_please_ya	ESH	1,023		Kilroy	BOM	955
Jivlain	GUM	619		guero	LVB	1,009		DemonJim	MBD	927
The Jesus	BOM	616		SM	ESH	923		Western Stand Warrior	LVB	794
Half Forward Flank				Centre Half Forward				Forward Pocket
PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT
sausageroll	MBD	880		SarahSmiles	SCS	758		Heardy_101	MBD	411
Cuzz09	LVB	866		cooney	MBD	702		RookiePick	LVB	383
Dero	MBD	758		TJASTA	FUR	675		Ashman OG	DRA	352
Ulahoopski	GCR	732		CakeEater	GCR	641		Blaze Storm	DRA	340
bl4ke	LVB	723		Golumless	ESH	634		zackah	CIW	315
Full Forward				Ruck				Ruck Rover
PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT
harry000	CIW	727		Muddiemoose	LVB	1,188		The Half Back	CIW	1,173
Metalcrusher	LVB	727		Strigoi	DRA	1,066		Marlowe	GCR	1,103
Proper Gander	MBD	720		GreyCrow	GCR	1,040		pantskyle	MBD	1,081
Bonz	DRA	689		Hate	ESH	1,000		RobR	BOM	1,059
Hatchy1992	SCS	663		Barrybran	GUM	993		Supersuns	ROY	1,040
Rover				Interchange
PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT
TheInjuryFactory	CIW	983		Edmund hunt	FUR	574
Pugsley	BOM	957		Maylandsman	DRA	433
manangatang	MBD	898		WaywardSonSon	ROY	407
T2B_	DRA	885		ChappyUK	FUR	404
Mister M	FUR	882		Headless	MBD	383

 

[Genghis Tron]

 

[Barrybran]

 

[eth-dog]

Damn, how are two of the top three CHB's in teams outside the 8? MWPP

 

[MWPP]

Damn, how are two of the top three CHB's in teams outside the 8? MWPP

We're rated on ADT, not goals conceded, which means that the ball being in our defensive half just gives us more opportunities to rack up the stats
I wonder how our Z scores stack up.

 

[Tonga Bob]

Round 13
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Back Pocket				Full Back				Half Back Flank
PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT
boncer34	MBD	467		NaturalDisaster	CIW	572		omgfridge	GUM	655
Noobz0r	GCR	434		Art Vandelay_	LVB	550		sante	MBD	640
Stronzo	CIW	410		Sterge	FUR	470		Genghis Tron	GUM	628
CALL ME SNAKE	BOM	378		Pie 4 Life	DRA	425		jmoo wan	MBD	613
Chief	DRA	316		BallaratBulldog	WON	399		serial_thrilla	DRA	596
Centre Half Back				Wing				Centre
PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT
MWPP	LVB	696		Matt_352	DRA	1,100		kdavva74	CIW	978
RelaxMax	CIW	664		Tonga Bob	CIW	1,059		Runk	ROY	955
eth-dog	ESH	630		por_please_ya	ESH	1,023		Kilroy	BOM	955
Jivlain	GUM	619		guero	LVB	1,009		DemonJim	MBD	927
The Jesus	BOM	616		SM	ESH	923		Western Stand Warrior	LVB	794
Half Forward Flank				Centre Half Forward				Forward Pocket
PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT
sausageroll	MBD	880		SarahSmiles	SCS	758		Heardy_101	MBD	411
Cuzz09	LVB	866		cooney	MBD	702		RookiePick	LVB	383
Dero	MBD	758		TJASTA	FUR	675		Ashman OG	DRA	352
Ulahoopski	GCR	732		CakeEater	GCR	641		Blaze Storm	DRA	340
bl4ke	LVB	723		Golumless	ESH	634		zackah	CIW	315
Full Forward				Ruck				Ruck Rover
PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT
harry000	CIW	727		Muddiemoose	LVB	1,188		The Half Back	CIW	1,173
Metalcrusher	LVB	727		Strigoi	DRA	1,066		Marlowe	GCR	1,103
Proper Gander	MBD	720		GreyCrow	GCR	1,040		pantskyle	MBD	1,081
Bonz	DRA	689		Hate	ESH	1,000		RobR	BOM	1,059
Hatchy1992	SCS	663		Barrybran	GUM	993		Supersuns	ROY	1,040
Rover				Interchange
PLAYER	TEAM	ADT		PLAYER	TEAM	ADT
TheInjuryFactory	CIW	983		Edmund hunt	FUR	574
Pugsley	BOM	957		Maylandsman	DRA	433
manangatang	MBD	898		WaywardSonSon	ROY	407
T2B_	DRA	885		ChappyUK	FUR	404
Mister M	FUR	882		Headless	MBD	383

So according to this there will be seven (7) Warriors in the All-SFA (8 if Stronzo pulls his finger out)? Seems legit.

Looking good NaturalDisaster RelaxMax kdavva74 harry000 The Half Back TheInjuryFactory!!

 

[Agent93]

Baz, your ADT doesn't account for conditions does it?

 

[Barrybran]

Baz, your ADT doesn't account for conditions does it?

I don't make an adjustment for conditions however everyone plays in the same conditions as their opponents

 

[The Half Back]

So according to this there will be seven (7) Warriors in the All-SFA (8 if Stronzo pulls his finger out)? Seems legit.

Looking good NaturalDisaster RelaxMax kdavva74 harry000 The Half Back TheInjuryFactory!!

Happy with that.

 

[Agent93]

I don't make an adjustment for conditions however everyone plays in the same conditions as their opponents

That is true. However, they don't play in the same conditions as players from other games that you are comparing them against.

 

[Barrybran]

That is true. However, they don't play in the same conditions as players from other games that you are comparing them against.

The weather component is effectively nullified using my method. If you score 100 DT in fine conditions, your opponent should score more as well. If they don't, that's a result of performance, not weather.

 

[Barrybran]

That is true. However, they don't play in the same conditions as players from other games that you are comparing them against.

I can actually show the weather impacts as well through my offensive ADT adjustment however I'm on my phone atm.

 

[Agent93]

The weather component is effectively nullified using my method. If you score 100 DT in fine conditions, your opponent should score more as well. If they don't, that's a result of performance, not weather.

That's not really what I'm getting at. Within the same game it's fine. Across games it's not.

Now purely for selfish reasons I was comparing the Rd13 change of the wingers. Porps scored 60-odd DT in a muddy match, Bonga got 130-odd in a cloudy match, and mattnumbers got 90-odd in warm, and per each game they were in the top performers. They've all had 'good' games within their game, but when you compare players of the same type between games you get a different result: the ADT increases close to the same amount as the DT (for wingers), so the gap between mattnumbers and porps goes from +42 to +77, the gap between porps and Bonga goes from -46 to +36.

If you do a fairly rudimentary mod by dividing the DT output by the same event multipler used by the sim the 60-, 130- and 90- odd become 90-, 115- and 90-odd respectively. I reckon we can then more fairly state that Bonga's game was the best, but there's not as much between porps and mattnumbers as the change in their totals between rounds suggests.

Using a real world example according to the coaches votes in Round 7 Shai Bolton and Tim Kelly were the unanimous best on ground in each of their games. TK had 42 touches and 141 DT, Bolton had 2 touches and 101 DT. Clears the derby and the Dogs/Tigers clashes were different types and standards of game, however the measure across games has them as equals, but taking their games separately TK had a better game by 40 points.

All that said, it's your stats piece

 

[Barrybran]

All that said, it's your stats piece

Yeah, cool. Explaining how sim stats work to the person who has put the most effort into it over the past six seasons. It's like you've never read any of my work.

 

[Agent93]

Yeah, cool. Explaining how sim stats work to the person who has put the most effort into it over the past six seasons. It's like you've never read any of my work.

I know you know how that bit works. I'm just showing the supporting details for everyone else if they want join in the discussion.

 

[Barrybran]

I know you know how that bit works. I'm just showing the supporting details for everyone else if they want join in the discussion.

If you have a solution to the problem, I'm all ears.