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[red+black]

Yea, to double the season length yet leave an already very short finals series the same seems strange.

Hopefully the mistakes of this season will be addressed for BBL|09.

 

[_M_16_]

Yea, to double the season length yet leave an already very short finals series the same seems strange.

There is only eight teams. Curiously how do you propose to make the finals longer without 1. Having more than 50% of the teams/the bottom four/teams with losing records included in finals, and 2. Without having a best of three finals series which is stupid and too Americanized.

I personally have zero issue with the finals series. Hurricanes were the dominant team and got upset at home, s**t happens, they don't need multiple chances to make the final. Plus you cannot drag the season too late into February as many people are back at work, school and uni where families dominate the BBL crowds.

Think it was great they moved it to playing each team both home and away. Makes for a fair and balanced fixture. Plus I get to see my team play 7-8 times instead of just 3-4 times. Pretty short as season considering other sports, and the Super Rugby which is similar length wise, but 20/20 is a walk in the park in terms of fitness/toll on the body

 

[_M_16_]

Lol, that’d be a joke, let them set the pitch and choose what to do, why not just make it first past the post if that’s what you want?

But if you want to eliminate the bat flip in finals, why not all season? If that’s the case, Hurricanes barely scrape into 4th this season

Agree with this. Allowing home team to pick where first each time will allow pitch doctoring and also will likely see the home teams winning percentage across the season jump. A coin toss allows for the unknown/risks, keeps the game fair and balanced

Seems a few here seemed bummed about the hurricanes losing and blaming the coin toss. It was a pretty good and even pitch throughout the night. Stars would have given them a good run regardless whether they have batted first or not. The Stars problem has been losing too many early wickets to compensate for the big hitting of Stoinis and Maxwell. The Hurricanes lost, because the Stars were simply better on the day, full stop.

 

[red+black]

Plus you cannot drag the season too late into February as many people are back at work, school and uni where families dominate the BBL crowds.

lol, but you're ok with the season finishing on Feb 17? But any later is too late? It's already too ****ing late.

 

[_M_16_]

lol, but you're ok with the season finishing on Feb 17? But any later is too late? It's already too ******* late.

I never once directly mentioned whether I was okay with it you peanut. I specifically pointed out that we CANNOT go any later, nothing to do with whether I though Feb 17th is good or not. Just highlighting the fact we finish late enough as it is. Besides there is a reason the games in the backend of the season were barely played weekdays and more spaced out than the rest of the season, the school holiday season had ended, and CA wanted to minimize small crowds as much as possible.

All I said was there is little room to squeeze in an extended finals campaign. Which you cant with only eight teams anyway unless you want to turn it into a stupid American best of three series, or include teams on the bottom half of the ladder, which we might as well let 8th participate. The only way I can see the finals being extended with good reason is if they expanded to say 12 teams. Another alternative could be scrapping the top 4 altogether and just make the top two teams play off in the Grand Final, but we all know CA is about milking as much money as possible.

 

[red+black]

The IPL has 8 teams and has offered a double chance to the top 2 teams for the past 8 seasons.

I am very confident the BBL will follow suit next season.

 

[_M_16_]

The IPL has 8 teams and has offered a double chance to the top 2 teams for the past 8 seasons.

I am very confident the BBL will follow suit next season.

How does their finals system work exactly?

*Edit, just checked it, forgot all about that finals format. My bad, I was stuck thinking people were talking about best of series or adding extra teams

Normally I'm not a fan of double chances, if you lose, you lose, no matter where you finish on the ladder, stiff s**t. But I don't mind the IPL finals set up here. Its a pretty common finals format in Australia as well, especially in leagues with a small amount of teams

1 vs 2 winner goes to final

3 vs 4 loser knocked out

Loser of 1/2 vs winner of 3/4

Only one extra game, should be able to squeeze that one in. And Hobart fans would be happy with that one

 

[red+black]

I'm not sure the Hurricanes would have won this season even with a double chance.

 

[_M_16_]

I'm not sure the Hurricanes would have won this season even with a double chance.

Yeah exactly, they would have to play one extra game, and then play the final away from home. But I still would have backed them.

Funny though, the top two teams form wasn't as strong at the back end of the season, whilst the Stars finally got it together after somehow being inside the top four, despite making the least runs of all teams for most of the season, and the form batting team late season (Heat), isn't even playing in the finals. The finals have opened up completely and are more even now than it was looking weeks ago.

Though I think if they didn't lose Wade so early, they may have snuck through tonight, just

 

[eddiesmith]

I don’t understand why Hobart is so important they’d change the rules for them? They didn’t the 2 times Hobart eliminated the top team and the whingers didn’t care then either!

 

[Father Jack]

I don’t understand why Hobart is so important they’d change the rules for them? They didn’t the 2 times Hobart eliminated the top team and the whingers didn’t care then either!

It's more to do with the fact the season has been extended, meaning that in a full home and away context you really should be having more of a reward for finishing top. It hasn't been as much of an issue before as teams hadn't played everyone twice so top position was less 'earned'. No one complained before either when Hobart was knocked off in a semi by a lower ranked team

 

[Bomberboyokay]

Wouldn't hear a peep out of the "BBL is too long" people if the last Test match finished on February 28th.

Seven's crummy coverage has damaged it.

 

[juss]

1 vs 2 winner goes to final

3 vs 4 loser knocked out

Loser of 1/2 vs winner of 3/4

This has to be the model moving forward. Home ground advantage is minimal in BBL, especially as the only advantage for finishing top 2. There is no significant reward for the Hurricanes, just make top 4 and roll the dice in 2 finals.

The 1vs2 double chance system at least rewards the best teams over the season and makes it genuinely worth finishing high. 3rd and 4th have a tougher task to win it as they should by needed to win an extra game.

Then the season that players have spent their whole time playing actually has some significance at the end.

 

[The Speaker]

Wouldn't hear a peep out of the "BBL is too long" people if the last Test match finished on February 28th.

Seven's crummy coverage has damaged it.

an admirable effort at excuse making

 

[eddiesmith]

Wouldn't hear a peep out of the "BBL is too long" people if the last Test match finished on February 28th.

Seven's crummy coverage has damaged it.

Nothing to do with the broadcaster.

I wouldn’t care if it ran all season long if it was a state based competition as it wouldn’t cause everything else to be put on hold!

 

[red+black]

If the BBL season didn't take so long we could have been enjoying MKR every night.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

an admirable effort at excuse making

It would be an excuse if I were on the CA payroll.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

Nothing to do with the broadcaster.

The production sucked, was notably worse than Ten, and they didn't show it in high definition whenever they wanted to show something else on the main channel.

 

[The Speaker]

The production sucked, was notably worse than Ten, and they didn't show it in high definition whenever they wanted to show something else on the main channel.

Much like the World Cup, the issue is how long the matches are taking to complete. The quality or otherwise of Seven's coverage is secondary.

 

[juss]

Anyone been to a BBL GF before? How much are tickets likely to be?

 

[eddiesmith]

Anyone been to a BBL GF before? How much are tickets likely to be?

Hopefully same as tonight except they’ll replace GA with reserved seating and extend Goethe higher priced seats further around

 

[Aussie_boy]

Anyone been to a BBL GF before? How much are tickets likely to be?

I've been to a couple and they are generally the same price.

 

[damochandler]

Wouldn't hear a peep out of the "BBL is too long" people if the last Test match finished on February 28th.

Seven's crummy coverage has damaged it.

I think you’ll find most people would. It’s not the broadcast. It’s the product.

 

[Cleavy]

it's both. breaking up the commentary union of Ponting and Gilchrist has weakened both channels.

 

[Cleavy]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_...-bash-cricket-australia-resists-major-changes

so their plan is to keep the BBL in same window as we have now, BUT it's right before the Women's T20 World Cup. We're going to be so burnt out on T20s, it's scary (although slightly amusing)