BBL The Challenger Adelaide Strikers v Sydney Sixers @ the SCG Weds Jan 26 1855 ACDT

[LukeParkerno1]

Silk was off the field for a bit

Didn’t notice it but fair point if it was occurring

 

[Belnakor]

Has anyone ever done it in this context though? Like I said, it’s fair according to the rules but it’s a bit of a shitty move to pull to win a game

It’s happened in a test match so that’s good enough for me

 

[Moonwatcher]

ATO might want to check Renshaw's bank accounts I reckon.

 

[Moonwatcher]

Shiny new mower in the shed. Interesting.

 

[Phone]

man, imagine the discourse around Renshaw if he had also been given out LBW second ball like he should have

 

[juss]

you should not be able to retire hurt if you go out onto the field to bat with an injury.

Of course you should.
A player could have a minor injury, they go out and it gets worse on field or they become in more pain. They were okay when they went out, but there's a point they are no longer fit to play.

 

[2006_Eagles]

In my day, anyone could have a runner so long as the injury wasn't pre existing

When did that change?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Huh? I’m honestly confused where you are coming from, he was good last season

He personally says that white ball cricket isn't his game. Ball stops swinging after two overs and swing is his weapon. Much more effective in red ball cricket and much prefers that. Doesn't have great death bowling skills and "gets met" - again, these are his words, direct from his mouth (to me so not in print, so you can take them or leave them)

 

[11kgm]

So Perth win the final? Easy money

 

[burge13]

Missed stumping and the catch cost them but gee Conway bowls pump at the death. No yorkers, slower balls in the slot. Lucky he got away with it last game

Weird happenings with the runner. It "feels wrong" for some reason even though it isnt but had they taken catches and bowled at the death better it wouldnt be an issue.

Administrators lucky Strikers didnt win it really. A team winning it with a worse w/l record than strs who didnt qualify wouldnt be a great look..

One thing is for sure. Change is needed next season. BBL is in dire straights the covid excuse wont wash any longer imo

 

[burge13]

In my day, anyone could have a runner so long as the injury wasn't pre existing

When did that change?

While ago now. Players took the piss out of it so unless the injury clearly happened in the match, you get no runner (someone else will verify finer details better than I)

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Bring back runners, they were bloody hilarious.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

So Perth win the final? Easy money

I think you'd be silly to rule out the Sixers. They're a hugely professional franchise, and in T20s it only takes a couple of special efforts from individuals to win a match. Scorchers favourites, but it isn't a sure thing by any stretch.

 

[Belnakor]

Bring back runners, they were bloody hilarious.

Mark Waugh runner for Steve Waugh was the height of comedy.

 

[Belnakor]

While ago now. Players took the piss out of it so unless the injury clearly happened in the match, you get no runner (someone else will verify finer details better than I)

They are banned even if you are injured during the game.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

In my day, anyone could have a runner so long as the injury wasn't pre existing

When did that change?

Few years ago. Was getting exploited by fat blokes namely Ranatunga (former SL captain) who did it routinely

 

[Belnakor]

Few years ago. Was getting exploited by fat blokes namely Ranatunga (former SL captain) who did it routinely

The funny thing was he was retired for like 10 years when they finally bought it in.

He always used to get jayasuriya who was greased lightning between wickets lol

 

[LukeParkerno1]

The funny thing was he was retired for like 10 years when they finally bought it in.

He always used to get jayasuriya who was greased lightning between wickets lol

Yep lol there’s the funny Healy sledge lol “you can’t get a runner just because you are a fat ….”

 

[Phone]

In my day, anyone could have a runner so long as the injury wasn't pre existing

When did that change?

people like to bring up Ranatunga but he's got nothing to do with it. if you want to find one flash point, it would be an ODer between England and SA in 2009 when GSmith started cramping up, requested a runner, the umpires didn't want to give him one and Strauss didn't want to allow it either. A couple of years later the ICC banned them in their playing conditions (not MCC laws of the game) to eliminate the grey areas because the issue kept on coming up.

CA is free to use their own runner rule for their domestic competitions, which they do. However, I think, they use the exact same wording and hence rule for all formats of the domestic game which is absurd. Not allowing a runner until the last wicket partnership is fine for the shield, but unless it's a dog of a wicket, shouldn't ever be a reality in a T20 game. CA clearly should craft a rule for their T20 comps, ie a runner is allowed upon the fall of the 6th wicket, or within the last 25% of the allocated overs, or something, or straight up ban them for the BBL and WBBL

edit: also theoretically I suppose for the last ball, the Sixers could have retired out all their batters until Silk/Kerr was the last wicket stand, therefore allowing a runner for Silk

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

My team had a runner a few years back.

One chaotic piece of calling had all three batters end up at the striker's end. The ball got throw to the bowler who took it cleanly on the pitch, a few metres from the bowler's stumps.

He looked down the pitch and saw two batsmen there, neither of them attempting to run up the pitch and get home, seemingly given up.

So he strolled casually up to the stumps with no urgency, not realising that the runner - out near square leg and out of his view/thinking - was by that stage motoring at full speed to get home at the bowler's end.

Eventually he knocked off a bail, with his team mates screaming at him to hurry up. Sure enough with a full length dive the runner had made it home.

 

[NYRB]

Common pattern I’ve been noticing about Sixers matches this season . Kerr, Abbott, Dwarshuis and Avendando have had games when they have individually pulled their teams out of train wrecks .

Speaks volumes of their team in that , the majority of their team may be beaten but an individual or two on their day can turn around the fortunes for them.

Perth and Sixers respect each other but no way will Perth think they are a shoe-in against a depleted and injured Sixers line up.

Also with regards to the Sixers injuries , can one blame the intensity and duration of the season as having some affect on the Sixers . I mean a player like SOK is on the wrong side of his thirties, 37 or so, and his leg cramps were probably going to be an issue at his age.

 

[Coasters7]

Duty of care will probably be the reason. You cant force an injured batsman to stay out there even if he was injured.

Joe Root retired ill in the SCG test 4 years ago come back on and batted. Then went off again and didn't come back.

Yeah and that’ll be the way they run with it. You can’t accuse them of any wrongdoing because it’s in the rule book and you cant force a batsmen to stay out there. But clearly it was tactical because Silk had no idea about it and was fine to continue.

That’s where it’s unsportsmanlike. They’ve sent him out there obviously pre-injured and exploited the injury to have a bet both ways, Silk the better batsman if he gets on strike and the runner for the last ball. That’s not using the rule how it should be used. Winning on a rule technicality and not on the field is a shit way to play sport and I don’t rate it at all. It’s on par with the Indians using the concussion sub to sub out Pant for Saha to keep, and Pant comes out to bat second innings. Fair in the rulebook but the height of unsportsmanlike behaviour

 

[NYRB]

If I was rating the Strikers tonight:

Carey : 1.5/10
Head: 0.5/10
Siddle: 7/10
Wells: 8.5/10
Renshaw: 3.5/10
Cockbain: 8/10
Kelly: 4/10
Fawad: 6.5/10
Short: 2/10
Conway: 6/10
Thornton: 6/10

The ironic thing is , the test players inserted looked lethargic and performed poorly. Agree with most on this thread , Weatherald and Nielsen probably would have performed better than those two tonight. Even as test players I reckon it takes a couple of games and for some around a good 5-6 games to get into the groove of T20 cricket. Not buying into that you can adjust your games straight away and be at top notch for either version of the game.

But there was no way those players were getting a gig ahead of those two.

Had Adelaide made the final would have been tempted to drop Head .

 

[LukeParkerno1]

What’s Carey getting 1.5 for? Wearing his cap properly?

 

[Beau_Waters for PM]

If I was rating the Strikers tonight:

Carey : 1.5/10
Head: 0.5/10
Siddle: 7/10
Wells: 8.5/10
Renshaw: 3.5/10
Cockbain: 8/10
Kelly: 4/10
Fawad: 6.5/10
Short: 2/10
Conway: 6/10
Thornton: 6/10

The ironic thing is , the test players inserted looked lethargic and performed poorly. Agree with most on this thread , Weatherald and Nielsen probably would have performed better than those two tonight. Even as test players I reckon it takes a couple of games and for some around a good 5-6 games to get into the groove of T20 cricket. Not buying into that you can adjust your games straight away and be at top notch for either version of the game.

But there was no way those players were getting a gig ahead of those two.

Had Adelaide made the final would have been tempted to drop Head .

Carey's first game back for the Strikers was good, he scored 67 and put on nearly 150 with his opening partner.
But I don't think Head has even made double digits in his few games yet...