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Wonder if Rankine has a cooling off period on his contract extension.
Its like watching your younger brother getting beaten up at school...
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Wonder if Rankine has a cooling off period on his contract extension.
Your mum is a faux-syllogism.
Your mum is a faux-syllogism.
Is that the modern version of your mother wears army boots?
No, Vossy didn't sidestep the swear filter.This is a Vossism, no?
An escape tool is self-indulgence. Self-indulgence is a personal choice - that is my point. It leads to gambling, drugs etc.Addiction is an escape tool. Its a way to forgot your problems because you can funnel all your efforts into it. Drugs, gambling, video games, all these things can become addictive because they give you three things: 1) Pleasure, 2) A feeling of control and 3) Purpose.
Self indulgence is what people see when other people delve into these things. "Oh, hes just self indulging himself in his habits".
When you see a Footballer gambling you think hes just self indulging himself with his money. In reality, gambling is a way for them to try and cope with the pressures of their jobs: Perform well on the field or you dont get paid. Pretty simple. Its like selling cars, dont sell enough this month? Say cya to your commission income.
An escape tool is self-indulgence. Self-indulgence is a personal choice - that is my point. It leads to gambling, drugs etc.
However, many argue that gambling etc is a disease/mental illness. That line of argument provides a get-out of-jail card for those who seek to avoid personal responsibility for their own behavior, aided and abetted by those folk whose job security is dependent on characterizing common human frailty/failings as some kind of a medical issue.
An escape tool is self-indulgence. Self-indulgence is a personal choice - that is my point. It leads to gambling, drugs etc.
However, many argue that gambling etc is a disease/mental illness. That line of argument provides a get-out of-jail card for those who seek to avoid personal responsibility for their own behavior, aided and abetted by those folk whose job security is dependent on characterizing common human frailty/failings as some kind of a medical issue.
You are equating addiction to anger, then saying that anger is due to childhood trauma. With absolutely zero evidence of causation.I dont see it as a get out of jail card. As someone who hasnt struggled with addiction its easy to see it that way.
It would be akin to say, using anger as a get out of jail card, when the anger is usually linked to a difficulty with handling emotions and situations due to childhood trauma.
You are equating addiction to anger, then saying that anger is due to childhood trauma. With absolutely zero evidence of causation.
Are you a social worker?
Cool. Individual anecdotes are essentially useless though.
OK, so you are talking about yourself. Accordingly I can understand why you are danclng around the issue.Nope just someone who has had both anger issues and addiction issues.
I can trace both to reasons other than "I want attention and a get out of jail card for just being an arsehole".
This is a Vossism, no?
OK, so you are talking about yourself. Accordingly I can understand why you are danclng around the issue.
And just for the record, I don't consider someone who lacks personal responsibility an "arsehole". I would, instead, hope that they learn a lesson before it is too late.
Incorrect. I have not said that at all.You are broadly suggesting people use the link between addiction and mental illness as an excuse for their struggles, correct?
If someone has an addiction and they take time off to deal with it and its labeled as mental health you are saying they are using that as a get out of jail card because really, they just like to blow money for s**ts and giggles.
Because thats how you come across.
An escape tool is self-indulgence. Self-indulgence is a personal choice - that is my point. It leads to gambling, drugs etc.
However, many argue that gambling etc is a disease/mental illness. That line of argument provides a get-out of-jail card for those who seek to avoid personal responsibility for their own behavior, aided and abetted by those folk whose job security is dependent on characterizing common human frailty/failings as some kind of a medical issue.
No, that is not my "stance", but your self-serving interpretation of what I have said - which was about personal responsibility and the consequences of the lack of it.So is your stance:
1) Addiction is a self inflicted issue and people should sort themselves out
2) Addiction is a coping mechanism to deal with personal trauma (Mental health)
3) Addiction is a good get out of jail card to be used in conjunction with mental health
No, that is not my "stance", but your self-serving interpretation of what I have said - which was about personal responsibility and the consequences of the lack of it.
You have admitted that you have had anger and addiction issues, so I can understand to some extent your inability to objectively process my comments.
What I've said is clear. If you wish to grind your axe, then so be it.
Everyone understands that a person who was abused as a child has a greater chance of abusing their own children in turn.
Most folks would nevertheless expect them to do whatever they can *not* to continue the cycle and, if they do abuse, would accept that they were responsible for the actions that they did.
Substance abuse is a health issue and should be treated as such not as a law enforcement issue.