Norm Smith Medallist
- Mar 18, 2013
- AFL Club
- Other Teams
I don't think the long term injury list is relevant in the second half of the year now.Does ho go on the long term injury list?
Really? Sport had nothing to do with Hernandez? The CTE analysis of his brain says hi... the dudes brain damage was off the charts for someone his age.Hernandez was a s**tbag anyway, sport had nothing to do with him. I've not heard of Belcher tbh but the point stands.
Can imagine match of the day reading out 'Pogba will be stepping away for 6 weeks...'
Fair point on the yanks; wouldn't look to them as any moral compass but this MHI doesn't happen in any other sport in the world so either life is very, very tough here (it isn't) or we're simply overdoing/too liberally diagnosing MH. I lean the latter
Diagnostic Criteria 312.31 (F63.0)
1. Persistent and recurrent problematic gambling behavior leading to clinically significant impairment or distress, as indicated by the individual exhibiting four (or more) of the following in a 12-month period...
I'm not so sure...Very sad ! A lion or a pie it doesn't matter , the guy is a champ and he needs the footy community to support him
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/oct/09/football-mental-health-record-numbers-pfaWhy does AFL have so many 'mental health issues' compared to other sports? You don't see this in the NBA or EPL.
Did she say "no" to Dayne Beams or another man? Who was charged with rape exactly?To settle the debate, gambling disorder is in the DSM V:
I'm not so sure...
"she "remembers saying no" and that she "felt trapped", the court heard"
Plus all the other non-gambling issues.
... Plus now the gambling.
Seems kinda like a guy who exhibits sexually aggressive behaviour, in addition to being a rapist enabler, who has shown a complete lack of loyalty to everyone who has supported him (family, employers, rich Collingwood benefactors, etc). Kinda sounds like a douche to me.
I'm on about the trial where Collingwood protected him:Did she say "no" to Dayne Beams or another man? Who was charged with rape exactly?
What other non-gambling issues?
How is he a rapist enabler?
How is moving states to be with your sick father, then coming back not loyal?
How has he not been loyal to his family?
Which rich COllingwood benefactors supported him?
WTF are u rambling about you women's day reader
'Nate introduces victim to Dayne Beams'?"
The policewoman, her finger tracing the words in her notebook in front of her, nods. "Correct."
"'Then Collingwood player, felt compelled to have sex but ... not forced.' Not forced?"
"'Two to four other naked males in the room'?"
"'Then they grab her and force her to perform oral sex on male and vaginal rape'?"
"'Remember saying 'No' '?"
Stafford nods again and repeats after him,
About 4am, the two walked back to his house, where some of his friends were sitting around and drinking, including John McCarthy and Dayne Beams, both Collingwood footballers. They were celebrating their grand final win. After saying hello, Sarah and Nate went to his bedroom. Then, when they were close to having sex, the door opened and a few of the other guys came in.
Then I remember the policewoman at the committal. Sarah had told the police that she'd felt "compelled" to have sex with Beams, but "not forced".
"Those men had all the power," she says. "She was in a strange house, in a bedroom with most of her clothes off, and a bunch of guys she does not know came in expecting to f... her. I mean, did they even prepare themselves for the possibility of her saying no?"
Between two and four males, including a naked man in a doorway, came into a bedroom at the Dorcas St, South Melbourne, townhouse where the woman claimed she was raped, the court heard.
In cross-examining a close friend of the alleged victim, defence lawyer David Galbally, QC, said the woman had told him Dayne Beams and another man named Myles were on either side of her in the bedroom.
Mr Galbally: "She was telling you she had sex against her will - she was effectively raped by them."
Male friend: "Yes."
Why not? It's just paper losses. If they know AFL player X is just going to compulsively gamble until they lose there is no need to manage the book by changing the odds or laying off the money from their bets. Let them rack up a "debt" and if they pay you it is a bonus.Bookies who let clients run up a 1.5 mill debt don't stay in business long, in fact I'd say the don't exist.
To correct my own work, Long Term list still exists to promote category B rookies, as Richmond have done todayI don't think the long term injury list is relevant in the second half of the year now.
Several years ago rookies couldn't play unless they were elevated, and they got elevated to replace someone on the long term injury list. Now, rookies are just paid less but can play without being promoted.
The exception is for the mid season draft, but obviously that's already been.
Surely if Eddie pays the debt then that counts towards the salary cap.Seems like a pretty messed up dude! Loved him as a Lion and was annoyed he left in the way he did but all the speculation around Eddie paying his debt makes a bit more sense.
Hope he gets himself right and stays off the punt because he is a gun.
He’s shining a light on ‘mental health’. Great stuff mate, that’ll really make a difference. Generic mental health problems with an innuendo on gambling addiction will be much benefitted by your braveness. Flog.the "mental health" excuse has been incredible for the AFL. "hamstring" was getting extremely stale, they've really done well with this one
I guess it’s just like paedophelia or serial killing. The mind makes you do things that you aren’t otherwise responsible for.If gambling is an addiction then it genuinely is a mental health issue. If rumours are true, losing so much money and being unable to stop would crush you.
Weren’t there a heap of bleeding hearts in the Cousins thread saying that drug addiction is a mental health issue. So you’re saying that no drug addiction is a mental health issue. That’s quite interesting, seems to be out of step with numerous so called experts.So you can’t distinguish between a physical & mental addiction?
Josh Gordon is one of the biggest cases in the NFL. One of the most talented wide-receivers, but has long had a problem with drugs, he talked about drinking and smoking weed before playing which I find astounding. He stepped aside last year due to mental health, but it’s widely known that it’s related to his previous issues. The guy literally gave up a ring by stepping asidehttps://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/oct/09/football-mental-health-record-numbers-pfa
Just google NBA players with Mental Health Issues' and NFL, and NRL. It's not an AFL-thing.
That break and then suddenly he's off to Tassie for hip surgery.Perhaps but I’m sure there would be a loophole. If the rumours are true that he only went back to Collingwood because his debt was paid off then wouldn’t that be a restraint of trade?
That's the most ludicrous part of the rumours about Beams; the rest is just pretty sad and it's past time that the AFL took strong action on this issue.Not a hope Eddie stumped up a mil..
It would probably legally count as income too, meaning Beams would owe the ATO about $400k.That's the most ludicrous part of the rumours about Beams; the rest is just pretty sad and it's past time that the AFL took strong action on this issue.
Eddie's loaded, but not 'give away $1.5 million to someone I'd maybe bump into once or twice a year if he didn't play footy for Collingwood' loaded. An immediate family member, yeah, OK, that would be a bit more reasonable.
I just wish he'd stop using his father's death as a reason for his mental health issues, or 'shit' as you call it. Like he's the first person to lose a parent. Far worse to lose a child.Why do people get so upset about this stuff. He’s taking time off to deal with his s**t. Who cares if it’s gambling related ?