News Beams taking indefinite leave for mental health

SpongePie

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What about sick leave?
Well we wouldn't have indefinite sick leave, but as others have mentioned above, thinks like income insurance (if you have it) would come into play.

I'm not knocking him, the situation, or saying it is fair/unfair, just responding to the poster before me.
 

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SpongePie

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Income protection is 2 years at a fraction of your annual income.

TPD is ridiculously hard to get, trust me i have just been through it with AMP due to a back injury that has been ongoing for 4 years that eventually put me out of my role, that may or may not repair (meaning the injury isn't considered stabilised so they wont pay out). Could be another 6 months could be 10 years could be never according to the specialist and several GPs.

Depression would be a hard sell for a TPD claim unless he truly lost it as in Bipolar, but as a rule ie what seems to be plaguing AFL players would be your general depression it would be a hard sell to say that it is a lifelong disability.
Thanks loki. Interesting about TPD. I hope you get better soon! I've been doing my insurances lately, and they sell it like it is all very easy to claim on if/when needed.

Also interesting on the 2 years.
 

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Do you listen to the words that come out of his own mouth?
Mate had him on his table at 1 of those club events (season launch I think from memory) before he transferred to the Bears and was surprised that he was so different from his on-camera persona. Based on that, is it the public on camera words, or those away from glaring eye of the media? Have you met him personally or do you have access to others who have?
 

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Thanks loki. Interesting about TPD. I hope you get better soon! I've been doing my insurances lately, and they sell it like it is all very easy to claim on if/when needed.

Also interesting on the 2 years.
Ty mate.
Getting on income protection was relatively hassle free but the TPD claim however was ridiculous by the end of it, i had seen 5 GP's, a Head of the local hospitals general Physicians, a pain specialist and a back doctor.
They slowly kept moving the goal posts and didn't resolve it until my income protection wore off and then came the no based off non stabilised injury.



I think you can take out extra blocks of protection that extends it but most people have basic cover unless specifically gone looking for extra cover, so you will need to pay extra to cover for longer or at a higher % of wage.

If you look up AMP they have a very poor record with TPD claims, even to some unfortunate people who had terminal cancer they had to take them to court for 5 years to see it paid there are forums and blogs on them as well as differing articles. Below is a separate case then the latter but equally poor.



Finance giant AMP is facing legal action over claims it is unfairly dragging out insurance claim assessments for customers with disabilities and severe illnesses.

Key points:
  • Scott Kidd, who is dying from a rare form of leukaemia, is suing AMP
  • He is dissatisfied with the delay in processing his total and permanent disability claim
  • AMP still has not decided whether he is entitled to a payout


The 160-year-old banking, superannuation and insurance company has also been accused of engaging in "doctor-shopping", subjecting some customers to endless independent medical assessments for conditions that have already been thoroughly diagnosed.

Newcastle AMP customer, Scott Kidd, who is dying from a rare form of leukaemia, is suing the company in the New South Wales Supreme Court over the delay in processing his total and permanent disability (TPD) claim.

"I really don't know why they're delaying it," Mr Kidd told 7.30.

"Maybe they're waiting until I die."
 
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Mate had him on his table at 1 of those club events (season launch I think from memory) before he transferred to the Bears and was surprised that he was so different from his on-camera persona. Based on that, is it the public on camera words, or those away from glaring eye of the media? Have you met him personally or do you have access to others who have?
No I've never met him in person, I'm only going by his public statements and actions. Seems like he's been trying to run from something for a long time and it keeps following him so I wouldn't be surprised if he retires because there's nowhere else to go now. I'm not saying he doesn't genuinely love his footy and his clubs but the bloke is haunted by something. Probably find out the full story years down the track like we do the others.
 

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No I've never met him in person, I'm only going by his public statements and actions. Seems like he's been trying to run from something for a long time and it keeps following him so I wouldn't be surprised if he retires because there's nowhere else to go now. I'm not saying he doesn't genuinely love his footy and his clubs but the bloke is haunted by something. Probably find out the full story years down the track like we do the others.
Retirement from this thread might be something you should consider.
 

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No I've never met him in person, I'm only going by his public statements and actions. Seems like he's been trying to run from something for a long time and it keeps following him so I wouldn't be surprised if he retires because there's nowhere else to go now. I'm not saying he doesn't genuinely love his footy and his clubs but the bloke is haunted by something. Probably find out the full story years down the track like we do the others.
I reckon just about the hardest thing anyone would ever do is bare their soul at a media conference. I'd be terrified. Consequently, I'd be loath to draw too many conclusions from those without having at a minimum some base insight into that persons normal persona. He's always struck me as a little extroverted publicly so I'm certainly not going to expect him to act any differently under such intensive glare.
 

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Such a waste picking this bloke up. We missed out on Lynch big time. I feel us not getting Lynch will cost us a flag. Bloody Richmond
 

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I don't post much as can't be arsed getting involved in online tit for tat. I will say 100% Beams is up for big dollars re gambling. Has carried it over from Brisbane days. Men in biker uniforms did turn up at training and for a period of time just pointed at Beams and their watches. Yes you can be sad and mourn a member of your immediate family passing but unfortunately this bloke has bigger issues to hide from.
 

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I don't post much as can't be arsed getting involved in online tit for tat. I will say 100% Beams is up for big dollars re gambling. Has carried it over from Brisbane days. Men in biker uniforms did turn up at training and for a period of time just pointed at Beams and their watches. Yes you can be sad and mourn a member of your immediate family passing but unfortunately this bloke has bigger issues to hide from.
I'm not saying its true but you'd have to be the biggest idiot to gamble over your head with underground bookies. You'd almost need to have a death wish.
 

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