Opinion Beams Trade [Officially derailed: Now disussing the folly of gambling, net negative players and the merit of Sier]

Beams deal: Did we overpay?

  • Yes

    Votes: 107 40.2%
  • No

    Votes: 159 59.8%

  • Total voters
    266
  • Poll closed .

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The trade was:

IN: Dayne Beams, Pick 41 (round 3), Pick 44 (round 3)
OUT: Pick 18 (round 1), Pick 56 (round 3), Future Rd 1 Selection

Did we overpay?
Too early to say imo. If we finish top 4 next year and get Kelly and Quaynor in the draft I think the deal is okay.
 

Magpie Monopoly

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Jul 11, 2014
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No.

The closest comparison is Bryce Gibbs. Essentially 2 firsts for him including a top 10 pick.

Beams is significantly better than Gibbs, and when you calculate points for picks we essentially gave just our 2019 first rounder.

It's really a no brainer. Pick 18 was probably going to be wasted anyway.
 

Peter Sidorkiewicz

Norm Smith Medallist
Oct 2, 2004
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Marginal overpayment.
We needed a 2nd round back + 3rd round back, instead of two 3rd rounders.

However if we get Quaynor and Kelly without going into deficit, it will be a win-win.

The Sam Murray trade stuffed us. Regardless of his drug suspension, which obviously made thing worse.

For a rookie listed player, who never played an AFL game, we should of never swapped our 2nd round pick out.
 
May 25, 2006
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Beach
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The trade was:

IN: Dayne Beams, Pick 41 (round 3), Pick 44 (round 3)
OUT: Pick 18 (round 1), Pick 56 (round 3), 2019 round 1 Selection

Did we overpay?

Im no academy point guru but I assume two picks in the 40s are close to pick 18

So no, we didnt overpay. Hes easily worth a future first rounder, especially one that should be 14+. It was a fair deal.

In 2009 we gave up our first second and third to get Jolly and Ball.
 
May 25, 2006
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Beach
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Marginal overpayment.
We needed a 2nd round back + 3rd round back, instead of two 3rd rounders.

However if we get Quaynor and Kelly without going into deficit, it will be a win-win.

The Sam Murray trade stuffed us. Regardless of his drug suspension, which obviously made thing worse.

For a rookie listed player, who never played an AFL game, we should of never swapped our 2nd round pick out.

The Sam Murray trade was a 12 point giveup in the draft order. He was showing every sign of it being a good trade.
 

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About right, looking at it objectively.
Dayne cost us next years first, and l believe we where going to anyway trade out this years to get the points.
 

Woody15

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Apr 22, 2010
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We'll soon see.

For now, maybe a little but not a lot. We're right in the premiership hunt and now we've added Beams. No complaints here.

Im excited to see how we get Roughead up and going as well.
 

dirts

Team Captain
May 5, 2014
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Bid comes for IQ before 18 - we did well.

Bid comes after - time will tell with on field performance.
 
Yes, we overpaid. Two first rounders for a player who has likely already peaked, and may only have a couple of seasons left, is not good value. It won’t likely be felt too much this year, but entering the draft in the 30’s next year will be a blow.

Having said that, if Kelly and/or Quaynor become very good players, or we win a flag with Beams, no-one will likely care.
 
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