Opinion Beams Trade [Officially derailed: Now disussing the folly of gambling, net negative players and the merit of Sier]

[Quicky]

The trade was:

IN: Dayne Beams, Pick 41 (round 3), Pick 44 (round 3)
OUT: Pick 18 (round 1), Pick 56 (round 3), 2019 round 1 Selection

Did we overpay?

 

[magpienato]

Yes we did overpay, whether this overpay is worth it or not is another story and only time will tell.

 

[Robroy22]

nup

 

[Moeydw]

The trade was:

IN: Dayne Beams, Pick 41 (round 3), Pick 44 (round 3)
OUT: Pick 18 (round 1), Pick 56 (round 3), Future Rd 1 Selection

Did we overpay?

Too early to say imo. If we finish top 4 next year and get Kelly and Quaynor in the draft I think the deal is okay.

 

[The Plowking]

A bit

 

[Magpie Monopoly]

No.

The closest comparison is Bryce Gibbs. Essentially 2 firsts for him including a top 10 pick.

Beams is significantly better than Gibbs, and when you calculate points for picks we essentially gave just our 2019 first rounder.

It's really a no brainer. Pick 18 was probably going to be wasted anyway.

 

[grayza2018]

I was a little sceptical but with the two picks coming back, I'm happy with it. Huge midfield injection, and should be sweet for Quaynor and Will Kelly too.

 

[MoreMoore]

Probably about right
An absolute gun, still under contract

 

[dansa]

Yes we did overpay, whether this overpay is worth it or not is another story and only time will tell.

This

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

Marginal overpayment.
We needed a 2nd round back + 3rd round back, instead of two 3rd rounders.

However if we get Quaynor and Kelly without going into deficit, it will be a win-win.

The Sam Murray trade stuffed us. Regardless of his drug suspension, which obviously made thing worse.

For a rookie listed player, who never played an AFL game, we should of never swapped our 2nd round pick out.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

The trade was:

IN: Dayne Beams, Pick 41 (round 3), Pick 44 (round 3)
OUT: Pick 18 (round 1), Pick 56 (round 3), 2019 round 1 Selection

Did we overpay?

Im no academy point guru but I assume two picks in the 40s are close to pick 18

So no, we didnt overpay. Hes easily worth a future first rounder, especially one that should be 14+. It was a fair deal.

In 2009 we gave up our first second and third to get Jolly and Ball.

 

[HFF]

Neither here or there IMO.
We got a gun player into our club- one who is a premiership favourite son.
A player who wants to be here.

Secondly- we got points for our academy players.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Marginal overpayment.
We needed a 2nd round back + 3rd round back, instead of two 3rd rounders.

However if we get Quaynor and Kelly without going into deficit, it will be a win-win.

The Sam Murray trade stuffed us. Regardless of his drug suspension, which obviously made thing worse.

For a rookie listed player, who never played an AFL game, we should of never swapped our 2nd round pick out.

The Sam Murray trade was a 12 point giveup in the draft order. He was showing every sign of it being a good trade.

 

[Schraderbrau]

The trade was:

IN: Dayne Beams, Pick 41 (round 3), Pick 44 (round 3)
OUT: Pick 18 (round 1), Pick 56 (round 3), 2019 round 1 Selection

Did we overpay?

no because we can win premiership next season.

 

[UpNDeGoey]

If he gets us a flag, they can have 3 more 1st round picks.

 

[left at home]

About right, looking at it objectively.
Dayne cost us next years first, and l believe we where going to anyway trade out this years to get the points.

 

[UpNDeGoey]

Also, yes we did overpay - but not terribly.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

No, fair deal for both clubs & it helps us with IQ & Kelly.

Win win.

 

[legendstatus]

If you all think we are not in a premiership window right now then yes but doubt it
Super pick up, sets us up for the next 2-3 years for a flag


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[Woody15]

We'll soon see.

For now, maybe a little but not a lot. We're right in the premiership hunt and now we've added Beams. No complaints here.

Im excited to see how we get Roughead up and going as well.

 

[ClokesShankedIt]

6 and 10 a few years back didnt set the world on fire, saying that I am a shaz fan. First rounders aren't everything.

Sometimes you need to pay up.

 

[dirts]

Bid comes for IQ before 18 - we did well.

Bid comes after - time will tell with on field performance.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Yes, we overpaid. Two first rounders for a player who has likely already peaked, and may only have a couple of seasons left, is not good value. It won’t likely be felt too much this year, but entering the draft in the 30’s next year will be a blow.

Having said that, if Kelly and/or Quaynor become very good players, or we win a flag with Beams, no-one will likely care.

 

[Justlokan]

No, fair deal for both clubs & it helps us with IQ & Kelly.

Win win.

This ^^^

Lions fans are happy because they think they reamed us
And we're happy because we get our draft priorities.

 

[nahnah]

yes, win a flag and it wont matter though