Werewolf BEaston Basic* WW Part V - Vampires Win!

[MWPP]

So you see why I would be so perplexed as to why someone in that boat might rush to put their vote on me, first thing in the morning, yeah?

It’s because you have soft claimed and been evil recently. I thought I read you wrong. Wouldn’t be the first time even when I played regularly. This is my second game in months (that General Discussion board was my return and I was rusty in it too). I thought it was evil as it’s not a logical town play to kill me . Plus I know what I am . I don’t discount a protect but the play is just weird from you.

 

[MC Bad Genius]

So Tarks - you're saying you seered MWPP as Drifting Soul on Night 1 and then missed a kill on her on Night 2?

 

[Kurve]

So Tarks - you're saying you seered MWPP as Drifting Soul on Night 1 and then missed a kill on her on Night 2?

JOAT might make sense

 

[MWPP]

Yeah that is a puzzle to me too to be honest.

Yep. Said DS can only be NI or recruited. It makes much more sense to glean info on someone unactioned who can literally be any evil.

 

[por_please_ya]

Maybe MWPP is innocent but to claim oh I wouldn't have gone for Pie lol.... Isn't a factional kill a team kill? When I've been alpha or godfather my underlings often post the kill and I just agree to it if there's a majority agreement even if I'm not sure I want to go in that direction. I dunno sometimes it's not worth arguing about.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

So Tarks - you're saying you seered MWPP as Drifting Soul on Night 1 and then missed a kill on her on Night 2?

That’s what I said, but it’s not what I did.

I seered her night one, protected myself night two and noted the missed mafia kill and her immediate jump on me so decided to apply some pressure back.

It’s really with the flogs now to manage her from here.

 

[por_please_ya]

That’s what I said, but it’s not what I did.

I seered her night one, protected myself night two and noted the missed mafia kill and her immediate jump on me so decided to apply some pressure back.

It’s really with the flogs now to manage her from here.

This is actually what I suspected, that you didn't actually try and kill her. That you went for someone else or protected yourself.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

This is actually what I suspected, that you didn't actually try and kill her. That you went for someone else or protected yourself.

The obsession early with the bus driver was what really piqued my interest. If she is evil, and she thought I was the seer I’d definitely expect her to target me overnight and be looking for the explanation as to why it missed immediately. The bus driver hypothesising and the huge jump to everyone wants to kill Jmoo seemed like an attempt to frame me, or at least get the think tank rolling on me.

 

[MWPP]

Maybe MWPP is innocent but to claim oh I wouldn't have gone for Pie lol.... Isn't a factional kill a team kill? When I've been alpha or godfather my underlings often post the kill and I just agree to it if there's a majority agreement even if I'm not sure I want to go in that direction. I dunno sometimes it's not worth arguing about.

I call the shots when big evil. I am evil so rarely that I would overrule others and not waste a shot on pie /nothing when I have a long list of people who have actually wronged me.

 

[MWPP]

That’s what I said, but it’s not what I did.

I seered her night one, protected myself night two and noted the missed mafia kill and her immediate jump on me so decided to apply some pressure back.

It’s really with the flogs now to manage her from here.

I wouldn’t do this play if I was mafia . I’m disappointed that you think I did. Funny how you’re backing down now. I assumed something like this fwiw or you wouldn’t have switched so readily to Jhf.

 

[MWPP]

The obsession early with the bus driver was what really piqued my interest. If she is evil, and she thought I was the seer I’d definitely expect her to target me overnight and be looking for the explanation as to why it missed immediately. The bus driver hypothesising and the huge jump to everyone wants to kill Jmoo seemed like an attempt to frame me, or at least get the think tank rolling on me.

Again, a huge jump. I don’t lay out everything like this when evil. Instead I have no pm and have been laying it out in thread instead . That’s how I play.

 

[MWPP]

Maybe MWPP is innocent but to claim oh I wouldn't have gone for Pie lol.... Isn't a factional kill a team kill? When I've been alpha or godfather my underlings often post the kill and I just agree to it if there's a majority agreement even if I'm not sure I want to go in that direction. I dunno sometimes it's not worth arguing about.

You are far more passive in a PM and yep would do this. I don’t do that haha.

 

[MWPP]

I call the shots when big evil. I am evil so rarely that I would overrule others and not waste a shot on pie /nothing when I have a long list of people who have actually wronged me.

Conversely when I am an underling I let the head pick (if it’s early on and there’s no info /it’s just a pet target thing) as I see it as their right . I am an underling when evil anyway so this doesn’t work to my advantage but that’s how I see it

 

[MWPP]

Mwerps please

BEaston

Gralin suggested MWPP was night immune and I find it difficult to believe nobody would have tested that last night.

MWPP

BEaston

Tarks just admitted that he didn't even miss on me. Switch to JHF or MC who have actual misses by the Vig unless you want to remain aligned with known evil in Gralin

 

[Tarkyn_24]

I wouldn’t do this play if I was mafia . I’m disappointed that you think I did. Funny how you’re backing down now. I assumed something like this fwiw or you wouldn’t have switched so readily to Jhf.

Why wouldn’t I? I don’t play to settle personal scores, I play to further my win con. The flogs can choose whether to try and provide clarity on you going forward if they want or not. I was hopeful they would’ve already done it, hence I gave myself room to walk back the vote before you came in all guns blazing with the bus driver crap, increasing the odds in my mind that you are NI.

I wouldn’t say you assumed something like this at all otherwise I wouldn’t have had to explicitly spell it out to you, either.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Tarks just admitted that he didn't even miss on me. Switch to JHF or MC who have actual misses by the Vig unless you want to remain aligned with known evil in Gralin

Who are you to make orders here?

**** me.

 

[MWPP]

Why wouldn’t I? I don’t play to settle personal scores, I play to further my win con. The flogs can choose whether to try and provide clarity on you going forward if they want or not. I was hopeful they would’ve already done it, hence I gave myself room to walk back the vote before you came in all guns blazing with the bus driver crap, increasing the odds in my mind that you are NI.

I wouldn’t say you assumed something like this at all otherwise I wouldn’t have had to explicitly spell it out to you, either.

Again, you overestimate how often people actually listen in these games haha

It was your lack of backing down that made me doubt it even though I considered it. I just didn't lay out that possibility of you lying about your actions since it makes you a sitting duck. When you accused me of GF specifically I had no choice. I stand by how your original claimed play wasn't the probability play either.

 

[Pie 4 Life]

Maybe MWPP is innocent but to claim oh I wouldn't have gone for Pie lol.... Isn't a factional kill a team kill? When I've been alpha or godfather my underlings often post the kill and I just agree to it if there's a majority agreement even if I'm not sure I want to go in that direction. I dunno sometimes it's not worth arguing about.

Depends on who you're with porps. I've found if you've got a lot of strong personalities within a PM there are arguments over what to do. If there's a balance of experience and new, the new usually posts suggestions and the experience locks it in. I find it comes down to how important the move is. If it's N1 or N2 and I'm with newer players, I'll usually be like go ahead, but if it's getting towards end game or a no brainer for a kill, then yeah I'll definitely overrule it and I know a lot of players here will go by that too. Obviously explaining to the newer players why.

 

[MWPP]

Who are you to make orders here?

**** me.

I'm not making orders. They can sit with their evil -aligned vote if they like

 

[Kurve]

Tarks just admitted that he didn't even miss on me. Switch to JHF or MC who have actual misses by the Vig unless you want to remain aligned with known evil in Gralin

Won't make any difference at this point if I switch my vote, JHF is way in front.

I dont like coercive tactics either.

 

[The Half Back]

Would it be wise to get the seer to seer MWPP next night to get an idea on her?

Okay then.

 

[MWPP]

Maybe MWPP is innocent but to claim oh I wouldn't have gone for Pie lol.... Isn't a factional kill a team kill? When I've been alpha or godfather my underlings often post the kill and I just agree to it if there's a majority agreement even if I'm not sure I want to go in that direction. I dunno sometimes it's not worth arguing about.

Depends on who you're with porps. I've found if you've got a lot of strong personalities within a PM there are arguments over what to do. If there's a balance of experience and new, the new usually posts suggestions and the experience locks it in. I find it comes down to how important the move is. If it's N1 or N2 and I'm with newer players, I'll usually be like go ahead, but if it's getting towards end game or a no brainer for a kill, then yeah I'll definitely overrule it and I know a lot of players here will go by that too. Obviously explaining to the newer players why.

And I'm definitely a strong personality in a PM and otherwise as she definitely knows. I also know that she isn't and wouldn't override. I definitely would and have , especially as I'm NI so rarely so I so rarely get the call anyway. That's how my revenge list is so large- I rarely land a solo or head killing role. Being a Vig was great in that sense as I finally got my revenge on Dank...

 

[MWPP]

Okay then.

We already established it would be a waste as Tarks has already seered me. The flogs should try and recruit me though

 

[MWPP]

Won't make any difference at this point if I switch my vote, JHF is way in front.

I dont like coercive tactics either.

Yeah you prefer listening to evil instead as your original vote showed- which I'm fine with too

 

[Hydatina Physis]

Anyone other than mwerps and tarks have any interesting thoughts?