Ben Johnson

[PieLebo87]

Finished third in the 2km trial. One of the fastest players at the club finishing third in a 2km trial is something to look forward to..
I can see a model midflielder being formed. Too fast for slow taggers and legs that can run out a game, does need to improve his possessions but that can be worked on.. ow aswell, i forgot to mention he is one of the most courageous players at the club, this guy goes in hard.. such a coincidence a bloke called Gavin Brown gave him #26

What are your thoughts?

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Ben Johnson was stepping up as one of our top line midfielders in 2004 before struggling with injuries this year.

With Brodie, Rhyce and Johnno all a part of our best midfield, I don't know that our need for pace in the middle is actually all that pressing. We need class, no doubt, but pace is not necessarily the #1 concern.

Of course, Collingwood fans would rather scream that the sky is falling than acknowledge injuries...

 

[Lonie_from_50]

Will be great to have the full run of Ben Johnson and Rhyce Shaw on the wing in 2006. What we need from BJ though, is, if he is to be playing more of a midfield role than the Chad Morrison sweeping Back Flank role, is that he needs more goals. Only kicked 1 goal last season (2005)

 

[magpies42]

Will be great to have the full run of Ben Johnson and Rhyce Shaw on the wing in 2006. What we need from BJ though, is, if he is to be playing more of a midfield role than the Chad Morrison sweeping Back Flank role, is that he needs more goals. Only kicked 1 goal last season (2005)

why dont we just put everyone on the wing!? how many wings are there on the field! it doesnt matter that either of these players maybe best suited on the wings. Footy is a team game and everybody plays their part for the side. Which means that even if every player on our list is suited for the wing roll it is not actually possible to do that!

 

[Coin_Toss]

Ben Johnson will play on a half back flank, where he has played most of his career. He is a fairly quick player, who can genuinely damage teams a lot with his foot skills running out of defence.

I expect to see BJ have a fantastic season at the club next year, and hopefully he won't disappoint me.

 

[PieLebo87]

Benny J wont be disappointing anyone next year, he is a club and fan favourite so i wouldn't put him to far behind the top players to win the Copeland next year, he is very ready, he has the years behind him, he is free of injury and has taken the next step, he will definitely be played across half back and pinch hit in the middle to give Bucks his breather in the forward line, as much as Collingwood fans are worrying about our midfield, im not, i was watching the '03 sydney game where we absolutely KILLED them in telstra stadium, i mean seriously, i have never seen Collingwood dominate in every aspect of the game and the scary thought is that those same players are still around and we even have a few more additions.. We will be right next year dont you worry.. Ill head to the local TAB to place some doe on them for the Premiership, anyone wish to join me?

 

[magpies42]

Benny J wont be disappointing anyone next year, he is a club and fan favourite so i wouldn't put him to far behind the top players to win the Copeland next year, he is very ready, he has the years behind him, he is free of injury and has taken the next step, he will definitely be played across half back and pinch hit in the middle to give Bucks his breather in the forward line, as much as Collingwood fans are worrying about our midfield, im not, i was watching the '03 sydney game where we absolutely KILLED them in telstra stadium, i mean seriously, i have never seen Collingwood dominate in every aspect of the game and the scary thought is that those same players are still around and we even have a few more additions.. We will be right next year dont you worry.. Ill head to the local TAB to place some doe on them for the Premiership, anyone wish to join me?

this is the second crap post i have read from you in the space of a minute! how do you do it?

sydney were not a good side back in 03 and they dont have a midfield that can hurt us! back in 03 buckley burns and lica were in their prime, neither of these three will play much in the middle next year (and if they do not to the same effect)!

Benny j is not free of injury, he played the majority of last year injured.

the fact remains that we are very thin in the middle so to counter that we have to move players that may not be suited to play in the middle to the middle! i.e johnson! i believe he is best played at HBF but having said that we havent really seen what he can do in the middle!

he has said that he wants to play there so let him play there! coz he is going to have to anyway

 

[iceman64]

Finished third in the 2km trial. One of the fastest players at the club finishing third in a 2km trial is something to look forward to..
I can see a model midflielder being formed. Too fast for slow taggers and legs that can run out a game, does need to improve his possessions but that can be worked on.. ow aswell, i forgot to mention he is one of the most courageous players at the club, this guy goes in hard.. such a coincidence a bloke called Gavin Brown gave him #26

What are your thoughts?

If only he could stay out of pubs in the Northern Suburbs.... what a punch he threw to knock out a loud mouth ******** !

 

[PieLebo87]

this is the second crap post i have read from you in the space of a minute! how do you do it?

sydney were not a good side back in 03 and they dont have a midfield that can hurt us! back in 03 buckley burns and lica were in their prime, neither of these three will play much in the middle next year (and if they do not to the same effect)!

Benny j is not free of injury, he played the majority of last year injured.

the fact remains that we are very thin in the middle so to counter that we have to move players that may not be suited to play in the middle to the middle! i.e johnson! i believe he is best played at HBF but having said that we havent really seen what he can do in the middle!

he has said that he wants to play there so let him play there! coz he is going to have to anyway

Mate if Ben Johnson isn't a good enough player at Collingwood to play in the midfield then you tell me who is.. come on, all you seem to do is put down comments being made on here, why don't you start giving some feedback of your own instead of hiding behind other peoples comments..

And about that '03 game, Buckley had 3 possessions to halftime, Burns was played a little up forward and didn't have an impact and Licca was injuried so didnt get much of the ball, dont try telling me you remember that game better then me because i had just finished watching it before, and by the way, they had Maxfield still doing his job week in week out, Kirk was killing it that game, they had a younger Paul Williams, Nick Davis and a young rookie by the name of Shnieder who killed us and kicked goal of the year that night, this is the team that was building up for a Premiership just 2 years later..

So you should keep them coming because ive counted ONE crap post from you but from what im seeing, your going to build that list up

 

[Lensen]

Mate if Ben Johnson isn't a good enough player at Collingwood to play in the midfield then you tell me who is.. come on, all you seem to do is put down comments being made on here, why don't you start giving some feedback of your own instead of hiding behind other peoples comments..

And about that '03 game, Buckley had 3 possessions to halftime, Burns was played a little up forward and didn't have an impact and Licca was injuried so didnt get much of the ball, dont try telling me you remember that game better then me because i had just finished watching it before, and by the way, they had Maxfield still doing his job week in week out, Kirk was killing it that game, they had a younger Paul Williams, Nick Davis and a young rookie by the name of Shnieder who killed us and kicked goal of the year that night, this is the team that was building up for a Premiership just 2 years later..

So you should keep them coming because ive counted ONE crap post from you but from what im seeing, your going to build that list up

Ahh, to be young and blissfully ignorant of just how doomed we are again.

Seriously - when I was 13 in 1998 I was sure we'd be great in '99. I suspect this bloke's got a similar mindset.

 

[PieLebo87]

Ahh, to be young and blissfully ignorant of just how doomed we are again.

Seriously - when I was 13 in 1998 I was sure we'd be great in '99. I suspect this bloke's got a similar mindset.

I'm 18 and i understand football more then you would, Collingwood is a religion to me and im in a family where football is the only thing on TV, I think your the one that needs to grow some balls and learn to understand what footy is about because if you don't see potential in the Collingwood team then your a dead set moron who should change teams

 

[johnson_26]

boys boys boys,,,

bj's run is unquestionable. Our problem doesnt lie with him playin in the mid. Quite happy for him to play his 2003 role where he played off the hbf and provided run, goals, and goal assists.

We need more consistent midfield efforts out of daks. great 2005 before suspension and injury. We need him to move into the mid, and have a fairly big midfield rotation. Didak, leon, Burnsy, Bucks, licca, O'bree, rhyce, broads and perhaps bj through there for one game. that means, if all those players get at elast 15 touches each, thats 135 disposals. No doubt with some people exceeding and failign that target. Keep them fresh and we win more clearances. I agree with the person that saiud we lack class. As you can see, we lack a quality mid. one more and we are set. thats why iw as thinkin hurn over ellis, because he is tall (188) but built liek a brick shissen house, and his disposal is apparantly so lean its liek bucks.

think this mid:
C: Rowe Buckley Shaw
R: Fraser Didak Holland

one mroe class act to rotate through + succeed bucks in the midfield, we'll be righto. Our fwd line is set, and our backline prob needs another 1-2 kpp chb/ FB to succeed wakelin and one more for security.

WQe aint in that bada nick, hopefiully some more experience to heath shaw, rusling, cloke, iaccobucci this year, we should have a decent year and build onto a bigger 2007

 

[Murray]

boys boys boys,,,

bj's run is unquestionable. Our problem doesnt lie with him playin in the mid. Quite happy for him to play his 2003 role where he played off the hbf and provided run, goals, and goal assists.

We need more consistent midfield efforts out of daks. great 2005 before suspension and injury. We need him to move into the mid, and have a fairly big midfield rotation. Didak, leon, Burnsy, Bucks, licca, O'bree, rhyce, broads and perhaps bj through there for one game. that means, if all those players get at elast 15 touches each, thats 135 disposals. No doubt with some people exceeding and failign that target. Keep them fresh and we win more clearances. I agree with the person that saiud we lack class. As you can see, we lack a quality mid. one more and we are set. thats why iw as thinkin hurn over ellis, because he is tall (188) but built liek a brick shissen house, and his disposal is apparantly so lean its liek bucks.

think this mid:
C: Rowe Buckley Shaw
R: Fraser Didak Holland

one mroe class act to rotate through + succeed bucks in the midfield, we'll be righto. Our fwd line is set, and our backline prob needs another 1-2 kpp chb/ FB to succeed wakelin and one more for security.

WQe aint in that bada nick, hopefiully some more experience to heath shaw, rusling, cloke, iaccobucci this year, we should have a decent year and build onto a bigger 2007

Dyslexic?

 

[magpies42]

he will definitely be played across half back and pinch hit in the middle to give Bucks his breather in the forward line, as much as Collingwood fans are worrying about our midfield, im not, i was watching the '03 sydney game where we absolutely KILLED them in telstra stadium, i mean seriously, i have never seen Collingwood dominate in every aspect of the game and the scary thought is that those same players are still around and we even have a few more additions.. We will be right next year dont you worry.. Ill head to the local TAB to place some doe on them for the Premiership, anyone wish to join me?

you are a slamming me for saying that i think johno should get a go in the middle and here you are saying i think johno is great i wanna bend over for him but he will only pinch hit in the mdifield! becuase the almighty buckeley who can barely walk is going to prop our midfield!

You are right that i cant remember every detail of the game round 21 '03. but i do know to dominate in every aspect of the game means we should have won by more then 18 pts!

what disturbs me most about your post is " and the scary thought is that those same players are still around and we even have a few more additions.. We will be right next year dont you worry.. Ill head to the local TAB to place some doe on them for the Premiership, anyone wish to join me"
The whole problem with the collingwood football club is that we dont have the likes of buckley, burns and lica playing at 100% anymore and these so called additions you speak of are no where near the calibre of Buckley, burns or even lica as yet!

you might be passionate (and you should be applauded for that and being positive) and it might be your life but you should let your passion cloud your judgement!

 

[Nardz]

I'm 18 and i understand football more then you would, Collingwood is a religion to me and im in a family where football is the only thing on TV, I think your the one that needs to grow some balls and learn to understand what footy is about because if you don't see potential in the Collingwood team then your a dead set moron who should change teams

Sometimes optimisim needs to be replaced by realism, for the sake of your own sanity.


Eventually you'll realise if you think we're gonna win the flag every year, 31 times out of 32 its gonna end in disappointment.

 

[PieLebo87]

boys boys boys,,,

bj's run is unquestionable. Our problem doesnt lie with him playin in the mid. Quite happy for him to play his 2003 role where he played off the hbf and provided run, goals, and goal assists.

We need more consistent midfield efforts out of daks. great 2005 before suspension and injury. We need him to move into the mid, and have a fairly big midfield rotation. Didak, leon, Burnsy, Bucks, licca, O'bree, rhyce, broads and perhaps bj through there for one game. that means, if all those players get at elast 15 touches each, thats 135 disposals. No doubt with some people exceeding and failign that target. Keep them fresh and we win more clearances. I agree with the person that saiud we lack class. As you can see, we lack a quality mid. one more and we are set. thats why iw as thinkin hurn over ellis, because he is tall (188) but built liek a brick shissen house, and his disposal is apparantly so lean its liek bucks.

think this mid:
C: Rowe Buckley Shaw
R: Fraser Didak Holland

one mroe class act to rotate through + succeed bucks in the midfield, we'll be righto. Our fwd line is set, and our backline prob needs another 1-2 kpp chb/ FB to succeed wakelin and one more for security.

WQe aint in that bada nick, hopefiully some more experience to heath shaw, rusling, cloke, iaccobucci this year, we should have a decent year and build onto a bigger 2007

Well said, that is a solution to a problem.

In that Rd21 '03 game, it was ********ing down rain and we were playing in Sydney, we got up by 4-5 goals at one stage in the 1st qtr (in that wet weather) and we were 5-6 goals up most of the game but they got back a few goals in the end, this game was a fight for 2nd spot on the AFL ladder, we got 2nd i think anyway I mentioned the likes of Bucks, Lica and Burns didnt have the impact you think they did, the reason we did so well that game in which i would gladly let you borrow the tape to see is because Anthony Rocca, Fraser, Tarrant, Didak, Johnson and Clement dominating in their respective positions, I'm so optimisitic because half those players in '06 are capable more then what they were capable in '03..
And those additions are: Caracella, a ruck unit (Fanning, Richards ect), Clokes, Maxwell*, Rowe*, Swan* and Presti (*=younger players stepping up)

I know the fine line between passionate and being realistic, what i can't understand is why can't Collingwood be a very big chance to win it this year if we do have an injury-free year like '02 & '03? I still believe we have a bettwe mix this time around, and as said before, the midfield can be covered even if we don't have the classy players there. I respect your views but I know mine aren't wrong.

 

[magpies42]

We are one buckley of 2002/2003 off winning a premiership (assuming we arent desimated by injuries). given that there arent any buckleys coming through the system we will have to settle with two half buckleys (perhaps a ellis and a hurn) these players will need time to come on. SO i think realistically we cant be talking about premierships for another two years at least!

 

[doppleganger]

we have the same players in name only

buckley & burns have been collingwoods best midfielders of the last decade, buckley arguably best ever, they were both at their peaks in 02&03, just because they are still on the list doesn't mean anything they are shadows of the players they were back in 02&03

cant replace them

licka & o'bree were playing top quality football back then, hopefully they can get back to this type of form.....is a hope not a gaurantee

didak, b.johnson, fraser, tarrant, r.lonie, l.davis are the players who should be stepping up holding us in good form but individually they have not improved on their outputs from 02-03, yes can make excuses for all of them but cold hard facts are that they all contributed more in 02-03 then they have since

rocca, carrots, presti, wakes, clem mean we still have good experience at both ends of the ground which is vital

richards, maxwell, rowe, t.cloke, rusling, egan, davies, are the new wave of players along with another four good picks this year

but from where we sat back in 02-03 i thought that our best chances would have come in 04-05 when buckley, burns were still able to produce top footy for sustained periods, unfortunately this didn't happen

but at the start of 02 nobody thought we would be up to making the granny but we did, who knows what may happen in 06 as the structure on paper looks pretty decent

but the change in output of bucks, burns & licka from 02-03 cant be underestimated as they were all absolutely brilliant

 

[PieLebo87]

we have the same players in name only

buckley & burns have been collingwoods best midfielders of the last decade, buckley arguably best ever, they were both at their peaks in 02&03, just because they are still on the list doesn't mean anything they are shadows of the players they were back in 02&03

cant replace them

licka & o'bree were playing top quality football back then, hopefully they can get back to this type of form.....is a hope not a gaurantee

didak, b.johnson, fraser, tarrant, r.lonie, l.davis are the players who should be stepping up holding us in good form but individually they have not improved on their outputs from 02-03, yes can make excuses for all of them but cold hard facts are that they all contributed more in 02-03 then they have since

rocca, carrots, presti, wakes, clem mean we still have good experience at both ends of the ground which is vital

richards, maxwell, rowe, t.cloke, rusling, egan, davies, are the new wave of players along with another four good picks this year

but from where we sat back in 02-03 i thought that our best chances would have come in 04-05 when buckley, burns were still able to produce top footy for sustained periods, unfortunately this didn't happen

but at the start of 02 nobody thought we would be up to making the granny but we did, who knows what may happen in 06 as the structure on paper looks pretty decent

but the change in output of bucks, burns & licka from 02-03 cant be underestimated as they were all absolutely brilliant

100% correct. ANYTHING can happen, you cannot judge how the young players of 2005 will go with the likes of Rocca, Buckley, Fraser, Didak playing along side them, we did ******** last year, but we did show promise, who knows if that can be repeated and taken a step further with our stars coming back from injuries, anything is possible, its going to be interesting to see, this year is probably the most unpredictable we're had for a few years i think, it can be 2nd last again but it can be 2nd if everything falls into place perfectly, who knows, its going to be really interesting to see.. i hope for the best because we deserve it, so do the likes of Bucks and Burns more then most..

 

[Art Corvelay]

I think we could be a *chance* to the make the finals, but you are seriously deluding yourself if you think we could win a premiership.

The problem with Collingwood is we never see what's wrong. Sure, we might have made 2 grand finals with a fair bit of this current list, but it didn't take us to a flag then, how's it going to do it now when players are older, and our 'elite' players are the ones getting near retirement age?

Collingwood need so much to go right next season it's not even remotely funny. But hell..... GO PIES in 06! You stick by your team win or lose.

 

[PieLebo87]

Finished third in the 2km trial. One of the fastest players at the club finishing third in a 2km trial is something to look forward to..
I can see a model midflielder being formed. Too fast for slow taggers and legs that can run out a game, does need to improve his possessions but that can be worked on.. ow aswell, i forgot to mention he is one of the most courageous players at the club, this guy goes in hard.. such a coincidence a bloke called Gavin Brown gave him #26

21st October 2005, 17:23

How do you guys think Johnno has gone this year?

 

[Hells K1tch3n]

21st October 2005, 17:23

How do you guys think Johnno has gone this year?

I dont think i ever saw him in the midfield all year, was once again thrown to the hbf... hopefully builds his tank up this preseason more and can go in the middle, we need fresh blood.

 

[Coin_Toss]

Just as I hoped, Johnson had a sensational year. Should win the Copeland for mine.

He spent more time in the midfield but also played across half-back.

 

[understudy]

Copeland my..arse.

Fraser, Swan, Didak, Heath Shaw, Clement, Buckley, Obree, Holland all in front of him for mine.

Johno just cant and dont win the hard and contested ball.

With our lack of ability in this area it stands out like dogs balls.

Maybe around 9th in the copeland for mine, needs to work on winning hard and contested footy which is still one of the most important aspects of footy.

 

[Lonie_from_50]

Johno sort of crept up the field starting Round One in the back pocket (having 20 odd kicks mind you). Played his main role, a running half-back who pushes up the ground. Gained the most metres for the club, and top 3 in the league. (Halfway through the year was #1)