Speculation Ben King [OOC 2022]

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Kangas_11

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Noth don't need him with Larkey, Comben, McKay

I think Pies and Bombers will go hard...

Pies especially...
If we could somehow get B. King, we could swing Comben to CHB and potentially be set at the key positions for a decade.

North should definitely be looking at Ben King.
 

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WillHayward

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North dont need him because of a bloke who has played one game and a defender?
Well depends how U define "need".
Clearly they'd take him. They also have Edwards.

Also not sure if BK wants to play fwd it defender? Doubt you know either.

But they ain't as desperate as the Pies and Bombers.
 

bird_man

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Who have U got down back?

Bit like my mob.

We are ok up fwd but we can't find a tall key defender for love or money.
We definitely lack another genuine tall key defender to go with Howard and would probably be better suited investing n in that area as well as the midfield.
 

bird_man

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North would make a lot of sense.

They've built a terrific young midfield but still lack quality talls at either end of the ground.

I'd imagine they'd also have money to burn and can front load any big long term deal they would offer.
 

the Ziebull

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Does he have a preference of playing forward or back?

as a junior he played mostly back
 

bird_man

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Does he have a preference of playing forward or back?

as a junior he played mostly back
Forward.

He didnt really play mostly back as a junior. He played both ends.

Only really pushed back in his first year of Nab cup so they could have one King at each end.

He was the AA full forward in his top year.

I can't see any way he'd be moving back after how good the start of his career has been.
 

bird_man

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Would love him at north!

Mckay

King

Take your pick

Larkey

CCJ Comben

Edwards in the ruck
Doubt Ben goes anywhere that wants him to play in defence.

He's been terrific the last 4 years playing forward.

It's probably only Buddy and Cameron of the modern day forwards that had kicked as many goals as him at his age.
 

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Shadow89

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And Victorians wonder why we still call it the VFL...

Say hi to Linc, Cocky and Fort for me, lol. Not to mention prior players in Walker and Christensen...5 players from the one club in 8 years is quite the effort...unless you're Carlton (GWS)

Oh and P.S. you guys actually have the equal second most 'imports' out of anyone in the league (Carlton is first with a whopping 16 players and Saints are equal second), currently on your list - even more than us who have a reputation for it and cop it all the time. So tbh, I probably wouldn't be going down that path, lol.

Brisbane trade ins (11):

Lyons
Neale
Fort
Cockatoo
McCarthy
Daniher
M. Adams
Robinson
C. Cameron
Ellis-Yolmen
C. Ah-Chee


Geelong (9):

Stanley
Tuohy
J. Cameron
Danger
Dahlhaus
S. Higgins
I. Smith
Rohan
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iBeng

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Brisbane trade ins (11):

Lyons
Neale
Fort
Cockatoo
McCarthy
Daniher
M. Adams
Robinson
C. Cameron
Ellis-Yolmen
C. Ah-Chee

Lyons was free and a complete balls up by gold coast.

Neale cost us plenty for the trade and came from...Perth.

Fort, cockatoo and McCarthy cost us how much? And we're considered fit players at the time? Or not?

Daniher is our first legit big free agent get.

Adam's was a trade which the Dogs were happy to do.

Robinson was literally delisted by Carlton of all clubs.

Charlie Cameron cost us heaps to get and we paid his worth.

Ellis shouldn't even be on our list.

Ah Chee was a trade from (checks notes) Gold Coast...


Yet here we are watching a bunch of Victorian club supporters fighting over a player that hasn't given even a hint of his intentions barely a season into his career.
 

mad-saint-guy

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I imagine that any trade involving King won't just have picks coming back to the Suns. They'd want a starting 22 player in return as well as a pair of first rounders IMO. I could see St Kilda offering 2022 R1, 2023 R1 and Josh Battle. It's a huge price to pay and I'm not sure if it's even in the club's best interests considering that key forwards just isn't an area of need. With that said, when you have the chance to snag a pair of generational talents like the King twins you have to think about it.
 

Shadow89

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Lyons was free and a complete balls up by gold coast.

Neale cost us plenty for the trade and came from...Perth.

Fort, cockatoo and McCarthy cost us how much? And we're considered fit players at the time? Or not?

Daniher is our first legit big free agent get.

Adam's was a trade which the Dogs were happy to do.

Robinson was literally delisted by Carlton of all clubs.

Charlie Cameron cost us heaps to get and we paid his worth.

Ellis shouldn't even be on our list.

Ah Chee was a trade from (checks notes) Gold Coast...


Yet here we are watching a bunch of Victorian club supporters fighting over a player that hasn't given even a hint of his intentions barely a season into his career.

Lol I'm more pointing out that you've got just as many players coming into your state, as there are leaving it. Difference is, you guys are on the right track, whereas GC has poor admin and hasn't played finals since it joined the comp a decade ago.

The point was to illustrate that the 'VFL mentality' argument, doesn't really work - when you have more players coming to your club from other sides than nearly every Victorian club in the comp (barring Saints and Carlton).

Maybe it's more just success and the chance of playing finals/in a flag contending side, that's the real lure - not any particular state. Sure seems to be the case with you guys
 

ScrappyDo

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I imagine that any trade involving King won't just have picks coming back to the Suns. They'd want a starting 22 player in return as well as a pair of first rounders IMO. I could see St Kilda offering 2022 R1, 2023 R1 and Josh Battle. It's a huge price to pay and I'm not sure if it's even in the club's best interests considering that key forwards just isn't an area of need. With that said, when you have the chance to snag a pair of generational talents like the King twins you have to think about it.
That's only if Josh Battle is happy to go, which I'd doubt.
If we were offering 2x first round picks and reliving some $750k of salary then they can go shopping with that on the open market.
 

Yeeted Suns

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It's definitely a possibility he leaves especially if we still suck but I don't think it's the foregone conclusion people in here think. He's always surprised me how well he's integrated in to the GC and is super tight with a bunch of core players.

I can't actually wrap my head around why essendon is the definite landing spot if he leaves though. Dreamers lol
 

Lego23

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Lyons was free and a complete balls up by gold coast.

Neale cost us plenty for the trade and came from...Perth.

Fort, cockatoo and McCarthy cost us how much? And we're considered fit players at the time? Or not?

Daniher is our first legit big free agent get.

Adam's was a trade which the Dogs were happy to do.

Robinson was literally delisted by Carlton of all clubs.

Charlie Cameron cost us heaps to get and we paid his worth.

Ellis shouldn't even be on our list.

Ah Chee was a trade from (checks notes) Gold Coast...


Yet here we are watching a bunch of Victorian club supporters fighting over a player that hasn't given even a hint of his intentions barely a season into his career.
So it is the VFL because supporters are desperately wanting a very good player? THE OUTRAGE

You seen the Power and Crow supporters do the same thing with Luko and Rankine?

THE DAMN SANFL!
 

Lego23

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I imagine that any trade involving King won't just have picks coming back to the Suns. They'd want a starting 22 player in return as well as a pair of first rounders IMO. I could see St Kilda offering 2022 R1, 2023 R1 and Josh Battle. It's a huge price to pay and I'm not sure if it's even in the club's best interests considering that key forwards just isn't an area of need. With that said, when you have the chance to snag a pair of generational talents like the King twins you have to think about it.
The problem as always is going to be convincing the player to go even if the club is willing to part with them.

They always make the demand of wanting players not picks, it is just a hard sell though.
 

mad-saint-guy

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That's only if Josh Battle is happy to go, which I'd doubt.
If we were offering 2x first round picks and reliving some $750k of salary then they can go shopping with that on the open market.

Unless Battle establishes himself as a CHB this season I think he'll be moving on from St Kilda. Going to GC with better pay, better weather and a guaranteed spot up forward sounds a lot better than hanging around Melbourne and playing for Sandringham on 200k per year while being thrown all over the field whenever you get a game in the seniors.

I do like Battle and hope he makes it with us but you could make a good argument that he's not big enough to become a key back and surplus to requirements as a forward.
 

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The game has long evolved past tall forwards dominating and winning games on their own. If St Kilda have the $800k+ a year and the multiple first round draft picks that he'll cost and don't spend those resources on improving their midfield, they're having a laugh
 

ScrappyDo

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Unless Battle establishes himself as a CHB this season I think he'll be moving on from St Kilda. Going to GC with better pay, better weather and a guaranteed spot up forward sounds a lot better than hanging around Melbourne and playing for Sandringham on 200k per year while being thrown all over the field whenever you get a game in the seniors.

I do like Battle and hope he makes it with us but you could make a good argument that he's not big enough to become a key back and surplus to requirements as a forward.
I agree it's a good option for him, just not that its a necessary part of any deal for Bing.
 

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