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He just isn’t consistent enough wherever he plays.
Traded Ben Long - Traded to Gold Coast with future 4th for 32
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I think it's important to have a few mature heads around rhe club, even if thet arent world beaters.
Ellis has been quite good for them. Chol was terrific this year. Witts has had a very good career there. Even Casboult was handy at times.
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If it wasn't for a photo I seen I wouldn't be able to pick him put in a police line up.
Good luck to Ben, seems a good player.
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Even markov has been in and out of that side and he is better than long. Same story for sharp. If you think long is going to be best 22 for them youre seeing things in his game that im not.
I think he's a useful utility without being a world beater. He could alternatively replace Rankine's pressure as a cheap forward option. No one outside of GC's midfielders really bring that effort and attack on the ball that Long does, it just creates a different dynamic which is what they may be after.
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We need someone to play hb whilst Weller and buderick come back from their acls
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Thats a 6 month job and something you rookie list a state league player for. Its not something you spend a fair bit of cap space and good picks on a multi year deal on for someone who will spend most of it playing neafl.
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Not sure we’d be spending too much, depends on the years and contract
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If he regularly gets 27 disposals, like he did in his last game, I'd be pee'd off. That was his issue. But his pressure, kicking & marking for his size, was solid.
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Won't hurt to get the occasional mid that has been in a winning final or 2 either, even if they played 30-40 odd games in a 4-6 year period.
Looking at freos side that beat the Bulldogs in that Elim final. 19 of those 23 blokes played in a winning final for the 1st time In their careers.
Only 4 blokes played in winning finals David Mundy and Michael Walters in that mark Harvey 2010 side and Lyons 2012-5 sides. Rory Lobb played in a finals win or 2 with GWS and James Aish played in Collingwoods 2018 finals side that won 2 finals and lost the grand final.
Can't blame him for chasing a much bigger contract than what is on offer at St Kilda, and you can't blame St Kilda for not wanting to overpay a depth utility. Long is capable of playing some decent games occasionally but he's never put more than 2 together consecutively. His skills are okay, he's quite athletic and he's very tough but he goes missing for large patches of games, or even entire games. Has never been able to consistently find enough of the footy to cement his spot in the 22.
You either play him forward and accept that he's probably not going to hit the scoreboard but will provide some fairly high level pressure, or you play him in defence and accept that he probably won't get much of the ball but could have a few nice intercept possessions. Once or twice a year he'll play a blinder but his median game is ordinary.
You either play him forward and accept that he's probably not going to hit the scoreboard but will provide some fairly high level pressure, or you play him in defence and accept that he probably won't get much of the ball but could have a few nice intercept possessions. Once or twice a year he'll play a blinder but his median game is ordinary.
I am sceptical about Long as a HB, but after the club last year brought in Chol and Casboult, who both had pretty good seasons, I am willing to back them in over this one.
4 year contract
That sounds extreme
That sounds extreme
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Just Gold Coast things.
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When do we learn?
I feel like we need to offer a longer term contract for guys to actually consider us as a destination.
He's being absolutely kissed on the d*** with that contract. Hope he repays the Suns and pulls his finger out and actually commits to being a professional footballer. He can add some serious aggression. His last game was pretty epic to be honest
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Yikes, even on AFL average coin that is just a killer when he isn't even guaranteed best 22!
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Atkins mark 2.
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Much different to Atkins
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The gap between his best and worst is huge. When he’s off he genuinely looks like one of the worst players in the afl.
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Why? Both involve 4 year deals on good coin for a player who isnt likely to be best 22. Its poor list management imo.
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Sorry, as players, I was questioning, I obviously didn't read the thred properly
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What is the coin here? And what is the source?
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That was lunacy, who ever made that decision should have been shown the exit door very quickly. Has panned out exactly as we thought, but thanks for the generous Compo Pick
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Jon Ralph. Didn't mention the amount, just that it was 4 years.
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