Interesting, so it sounds like given Ken's stubbornness as long as he is coaching Perkins probably won't be welcome to come in and prove him wrong.
Opinion Ben Perkins - get him now
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Interesting, so it sounds like given Ken's stubbornness as long as he is coaching Perkins probably won't be welcome to come in and prove him wrong.
RussellEbertHandball
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Just get him.
Carl Woods, your M.V.P. method was a bloody flop today.
Carl Woods, your M.V.P. method was a bloody flop today.
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Didn't watch live, read the reviews of the kicking and expected the worst. Not sure where to find the actual stats but I think it was only Sam Gray who let himself down on set shots. The rest were on the run where M.V.P. is hardly to blame.
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Wingard missed a set shot from a free from 25m straight in front.
The ones on the run were absolute gimmes.
It was more than a bad day. It was disgraceful. It needs to be addressed.
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You need to go watch the replay then. The 3rd quarter was diabolical.
10.20 Wingard gets a free 15m out in line with left hand goal post easy shot, pushes it left of the goal post
SPP runs into goal from max 20m out, could have walked in like it was a set shot he was that much in the clear, on a 45 degree angle just has to get it over the defender in the square and he kicks it to the right.
0.24 They kick a late soft goal. Then we get the centre clearance and Neade gets a dangerous tackle free. he is 12m out on a 45 degree angle at most, on the right hand side. we need the goal to get momentum back and he he misses the goal - Dwayne says wow that is hard to believe. And Dermie said Neade wondered if the bloody goals had moved after he did his kick.
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Start of 2nd quarter 1 minute in Wingard marks in pocket on about a 60 degree angle, tough but correct side for a leftie, does run around a bit to his left and unlucky and hits the left post flush.
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14.25 to go of 1st quarter Robbie marks in line with the right point post about 3 metres inside the ground. Tough shot but instead of doing a checkie he does a left foot snap that doesnt even get close. If he was on the run from there he would do a checkie rather than ran to his left a bit and do a left foot snap. So not sure why th change because whilst a tough angle there was day light he the guy on the mark want standing next to the point post and Robbie could not see anyday light between the goals.
12.53 Charlie gets a holding free 30m out straight in front. Sprays it to the right goes half way between the goal and point post.
5.33 Chad gets a free 45m out a tad more than 45 degrees on right hand side. Hits it pretty well and just misses to the right as ball carried post high as he kicked it pretty well.
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18.50 SPP kicks a beauty from a mark 45m out 45 degrees early in 4th quarter
16.58 Sam G takes a mark 13m out straight in front pushes it to the right and just gets it thru.
13.50 Sam G takes a mark 30m 45 degrees on LHS and barely makes the distance pushing it right and just scraps in for a point just inside from the post.
Set shot goals kicked
First quarter 2nd by Sam G, 4th by Boak, 5th by Charlie. 2nd quarter none. 3rd quarter Chad the 7th goal, and the 2 Sams kick 9th and 10th as described above.
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after watching the last 24 hours of:
17.9
15.10
25.9
20.9
20.10
for the last 5 winners
I'd be overturning any possible rock anywhere to improve our goalkicking
all teams have bad days, but we have them all the time (notwithstanding our accuracy against, is league 'best')
17.9
15.10
25.9
20.9
20.10
for the last 5 winners
I'd be overturning any possible rock anywhere to improve our goalkicking
all teams have bad days, but we have them all the time (notwithstanding our accuracy against, is league 'best')
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Our very poor conversion has history and we have not improved...impacts our momentum, confidence, hard work from our defenders in particular and invariably oppo go down and kick a goal. The better sides aren't so forgiving and it WILL cost us big time and we keep hearing the same f###g dribble working hard etc etc. What is so difficult to simply kick over the goal umpire's head..
It cost us the 2014 prelim after it pretty much cost us a Top 4 berth that year.
It cost us the 2017 Elimination final.
We are way past 'it will cost us'.
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Perkins thinks playing in China is pointless.
He can * off.
He can * off.
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He probably has some strong opinions on how the pearstore is run as well, but I'm not sure it'd be in the scope of his position.
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To be fair, what has it actually delivered to us thus far? I was hoping it would open up sponsorship stream left right and Center, yet here we are year two into the experiment and one less sponsor than in the past 5-6 years. Yes it’s a feel good story and a bold move in typical Port fashion, but what have we to show for the whole thing?
Looking at some players snaps, last year the novelty was there and a great experience, this year it looks like a drawn out, dull experience and many mentioning how they can’t wait to get home!
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The hardest of hard passes on this colossal dickhead.
The hardest of hard passes on this colossal dickhead.
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It doesn't have to be Perkins but something has to change.
Butcher was the symptom of a wider problem that was masked for a while by the brilliance of Schulz and young Wingard.
Goalkicking is a huge issue for us. It's technical and it's mental. It has been since the start of the Hinkley era.
Butcher was the symptom of a wider problem that was masked for a while by the brilliance of Schulz and young Wingard.
Goalkicking is a huge issue for us. It's technical and it's mental. It has been since the start of the Hinkley era.
#malcom get him down for a sesh
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I still want him - or a kicking coach as good as him. We are pissing away chances to play in finals with our s**t goal kicking, which hasn't improved in a decade.
I'd actually go after David Rath 1st, but he probably is unattainable now he works for the AFL, so ben is next cab off the rank.
I'd actually go after David Rath 1st, but he probably is unattainable now he works for the AFL, so ben is next cab off the rank.
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I am not sure if Robbie Gray needs a kicking coach, a sports psychologist or both. Robbie has a real problem from 30 metres out.
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Perkins has radical views that differ from Kern, so he will never be asked to come to Alberton because reasons......
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Our issue is not mechanical, physical, tactical, or structural. It is mental and spiritual! We miss goals and lose close games because we don't believe no one deserves it more than we do.
We have forgotten how to succeed. We have lost touch with what we are. We need to restore our "portness". LIVE THE CREED, PORT!
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Just gotta work hardery......
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Its both.
If you have a poor technique, then as the game goes further and you get more fatigued, a poor technique will mean you have a substantially greater chance of missing because the bio mechanics are not at their most efficient and effective performance.
I agree that its probably more mental, especially for the perennial offenders.
At the 2018 Members Convention our relatively new skills acquisition specialist, expert Carl Woods, - he rejoined Port in late 2017 but was an assistant fitness coach between May 2009 and Nov 2011 before he went off to Edith Cowan did a PHD and then worked at James CookUni between 2015 and late 2017 - said we would employ the MVP method to improve our goal kicking. I wrote this in the 2018 Members Convention thread
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...mber-convention.1182311/page-18#post-54249541
We are going the MVP route to improving our goal kicking. They have broken down the whole process from the time a player takes a mark.
M is Mindset. They are working with players to have a positive mindset from the moment they take their first step after taking the mark. Its about eliminating negative thoughts and not worrying about consequences of a miss. Eliminate the Daniel Motlop type worrying about the kick after the siren in Tassie fear of about 10 years ago. They showed vision of a few players working on it at training and one player in particular and you could see why he missed a shot and got another. Watch the players in our practice games and see if you can pick it up.
V - Visualization. The technique the old Soviet bloc sports scientists pioneered in the 1970's. They want the players to visualize the way the ball will move and concentrate on visualizing on a target behind the goals as the player gets to the top of his run up.
P - Practice lots of work on both technique and routine.
So the approach has been a holistic one, to work on both the mind aspect of goal kicking and the practical body mechanics movement of goal kicking. I guess it will be a work in progress and we may or may not see an improvement in the practice games and the early part of the season, but one would hope that it has kicked in by about Rd 6 as the bad weather starts to come in.
I dont know what the 2018 and 2019 stats say compared to say 2016 and 2017 stats, but my eyes say we haven't improved when it counts and when the conditions are good and pretty normal
I've had conversations with Ben on Twitter. He's not welcome at Alberton and never will be while Hinkley is there.
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So much this, we have gone from a club whom relished the opportunity to stand up and Kick the winning goal after the siren (See Jarred Poulton vs Sydney @ SCG) because we accepted that if we gave our absolute best and it wasn't enough, we simply had to be better for longer next week. We were a club that won and lost as a collective and no individual "Cost" matches, now we seem to do enough to be competitive and rely on individual brilliant acts to succeed!
This is not Cricket, this is 22 vs 22. This is a match with many factors need to pull in one direction to play a style the at will be successful! Our small crumbing forwards are ineffective if Charlie Dixon and Billy Frampton are not crashing packs and competing.
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I don't think we necessarily need some eccentric kicking guru to fix us, but we definitely do need a change of attitude and a willingness to consider different ideas.
The fact that we couldn't get Butcher looking even remotely like a footballer when taking set shots was bizarre when you consider he was playing next to Schulz who was the best set shot in the league.
It's all behind closed doors stuff, so we'll never know what help Butcher got with his set shot kicking or how he handled it. All we know is that it deteriorated along with his confidence and never recovered while he was at our club. Can any SANFL followers tell me what he kicks like these days?
It might be telling that Schulz retired and immediately opened the Jay Schulz Kicking Academy. That tells me he probably spent a lot of time while at the club thinking about how kicking is taught, maybe because he didn't really agree with how the club were handling it
The fact that we couldn't get Butcher looking even remotely like a footballer when taking set shots was bizarre when you consider he was playing next to Schulz who was the best set shot in the league.
It's all behind closed doors stuff, so we'll never know what help Butcher got with his set shot kicking or how he handled it. All we know is that it deteriorated along with his confidence and never recovered while he was at our club. Can any SANFL followers tell me what he kicks like these days?
It might be telling that Schulz retired and immediately opened the Jay Schulz Kicking Academy. That tells me he probably spent a lot of time while at the club thinking about how kicking is taught, maybe because he didn't really agree with how the club were handling it
