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On queue last week Stats insider has an article on Saint Kilda's goal kicking this year and it is at historical high levels.

From Sinners to Saints: How St Kilda Revolutionised Its Goalkicking
By Ricky Mangidis on 5-Aug, 13:31.


St Kilda’s goal kicking accuracy is the best ever, by any club in history, through nine rounds of a season.
63.8%* ST KILDA 2020

Still on top. https://t.co/yI4SIvR473
[Above stat was updated for Rd 10 game as after Rd 9 game Inside Lane tweet link above had it at 64.9%.]

Yet, if one were to look at Stats Insider’s expected score tool, the Saints haven’t even exceeded expectations. So how can a side literally be the most accurate in history and for it to be perfectly normal?

The answer lies in the type of shots St Kilda are creating which represent a significant departure from previous years. By looking through Stats Insider’s Shot Chart Explorer we can see that in 2018 and 2019, St Kilda very much had a scattergun approach – get within range and let fly, regardless of distance and angle.

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St Kilda’s 2019 accuracy of 42.6% was the fourth lowest ever recorded, and looking at the above, with red areas indicating where the most shots came from, it’s easy to see why.

Therefore, heading into 2020, clearly the main focus was to improve accuracy.

Brett Ratten has made a point of focusing on improving both the Saints’ shot location, while also ensuring the ones which came in general play were from higher percentage situations.

Naturally, the quickest way to improve accuracy is to take shots closer to goal.

Comparing 2018 and 2019 to 2020, using the Stats Insider shotcharting data which breaks shot distance into three areas – 0-24 metres, 25-49 metres and 50+ metres – we can see a significant increase in what’s been taken close to goal.

St Kilda’s shots on goal by distance0-24
metres
25-49
metres
50+
metres
201815.5%55.4%29.1%
201918.6%54.6%26.8%
202028.8%48.4%22.8%

The distance is only one part of the puzzle though. Taking shots close to goal is all well and good, but if they come closer to the first row than the square, it won’t amount to much.

But add location to distance, and suddenly something emerges. Remember the 2018 and 2019 shot charts? Add 2020 to it and..…

Those hot spots in the pockets? Gone. Those hot spots on the flanks? Largely gone.

What’s left is a highly concentrated area right where sides would take all their shots in a dream world.

For St Kilda, that dream is a reality. In the space of one year an overall shot profile has changed from all over the place to something every other team would crave.

Perhaps no game highlighted it as perfectly as Round 4 against Richmond. The Saints kicked 15.3.93 and only narrowly exceeded their expected score of 91.When the focus is on shots coming from as close to goal and as straight as possible, to succeed there has to be no hesitation.

.......

Compare Port and St Kilda after 10 games. Rushed behinds have been eliminated from total scores.

Charlie and others are missing set shots from straight in front that the Saints are kicking. Most of Saints shots from straight in front have been from general play close to goal, but they are nailing the easy set shots.

Compare the pair.

Go to https://www.statsinsider.com.au/afl/shot-charting and sort by teams and/or players and timeframe.

All Shots 2020

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Set Shots only 2020


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After 10 games Port had kicked 100.84 + 18 rushed behinds, St Kilda 114.54 + 10 rushed behinds. But....

Port's expected score from 224 shots is 730.6 pts actual score is 680 pts St Kilda expected score from 184 shots is 665.3 pts but actual score is 662 pts.

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i looked at 2 kicks on Saturday night. Southern end
Both from similar distances. 15 to 20mtrs out pretty much straight in front
Dixon and Butters

Dixon tried to kick the leather off it. It came off more like a 9 iron. Went high and wide
Butters kicked about half post height. Straight. Didnt try and smash the ball

Butters technique from that kick was pretty much perfect while Dixon leaned back. head was all over the place and he stuffed the kick
 

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Schulz is on the record as saying the key to his goal kicking accuracy was going to the local oval after training and taking 100 extra shots that the club's conditioning staff wouldn't let him take. Practice makes perfect. When you only take 20-30 shots a week as a so-called professional footballer, you can't expect to kick with any sort of consistency.
 
On the Couch last night Gerard Healy brought up poor goal kicking in last 3 minutes or so, saying its underrated doesn't get a mention and said goal kicking accuracy could well determine who will be premiers this year.

Jono Brown said 52% accuracy from set shots this year across the league and then showed some bad and good examples. Brown finishes off with take note.

Gerard then says he has taken note and puts up the graphic below re set shot offenders for top 8 sides and talked about GWS not having one poor offender and rattled off Cameron's, Finlayson's and Himmelberg stats between mid 60's and mid 80's conversions and said that's the only reason they are in the 8 as they have won games on good accurate goal kicking.

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I looked up the stats for Port, GWS and WCE at https://www.statsinsider.com.au/afl/shot-charting

Port's I have adjusted for the Richmond game the other 2 clubs stats are at the end of Rd 10.

Gray 9 set shot 3.2 and 4 that didn't score = 33% total goals 10

Dixon 32 set shots 19.13 = 59% total goals 21.
It was 18.9 before the Richmond game. Carlton game is when the rot starts. Was 11.4 before Carlton game to end of GWS game, so now 8.9 since the GWS game.

Westhoff 9 set shots 7.1 and a miss = 78% total goals 9

Marshall 11 set shots 6.4 and a miss = 55% total goals 9

Georgiades 10 set shots for 5.3 and 2 misses = 50% total goals 6

GWS
Cameron.... 18 set shots 12.4 and 2 misses = 67% total goals 15
Finlayson.... 13 set shots 9.2 and 2 misses = 67% total goals 13
Himmelberg. 9 set shots 8.0 and 1 miss. = 89% total goals 12
Greene....... 14 set shots 11.2 and 1 miss = 79% total goals 14

WCE
Kennedy 26 set shots 16.10 and 0 misses = 62% total goals 22
Darling.. 13 set shots 9.3 and 1 miss = 69% total goals 12
Ryan..... 13 set shots 9.4 and 0 misses = 69% total goals 11
Allen..... 11 set shots 6.3 and 2 misses = 55% total goals 9
 
Ben Perkins talking bad goal kicking as well as kicking in general on SEN breakfast this morning. Even explained why Kane couldn't kick much further than 30-40m. Talked also about why he thinks he is ignored by AFL clubs including why Michael Voss doesn't like him. He was working at Essendon, fixed up Hurley - kicked 6 in Perth after a few sessions, then next game 5 before getting injured mid 2012, thought he'd be there for years, but then the drug scandal broke.

Edit: He said he now has a manager - Glen Ella to get him back into coaching. Kane and Sam Edmund had no idea who he is. He is ex Wallaby player and is twin brother of ex Wallaby great and captain Mark Ella. A third younger brother Gary also was a Wallaby and they played together and were star schoolboy players and for the Galloping Greens, Randwick sides in the 1970's and 80's and early 90's before the game became professional, that won about 15 Sydney Rugby Union premierships in 20 years or so.

If you don't have time to listen to 13 minute podcast, this is the Cliff Notes SEN article on the chat.





 
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Ben Perkins talking bad goal kicking as well as kicking in general on SEN breakfast this morning. Even explained why Kane couldn't kick much further than 30-40m. Talked also about why he thinks he is ignored by AFL clubs including why Michael Voss doesn't like him. He was working at Essendon, fixed up Hurley - kicked 6 in Perth after a few sessions, then next game 5 before getting injured mid 2012, thought he'd be there for years, but then the drug scandal broke.

Edit: He said he now has a manager - Glen Ella to get him back into coaching. Kane and Sam Edmund had no idea who he is. He is ex Wallaby player and is twin brother of ex Wallaby great and captain Mark Ella. A third younger brother Gary also was a Wallaby and they played together and were star schoolboy players and for the Galloping Greens, Randwick sides in the 1970's and 80's and early 90's before the game became professional, that won about 15 Sydney Rugby Union premierships in 20 years or so.

If you don't have time to listen to 13 minute podcast, this is the Cliff Notes SEN article on the chat.






Perkins is too radical a thinker, with some Tredders like "out there" ideas (according to some posters) which are too extreme for our risk averse hierarchy to accept.

Would need to learn a lot more about the club before he could even contemplate a career at Port.
 
Perkins is too radical a thinker, with some Tredders like "out there" ideas (according to some posters) which are too extreme for our risk averse hierarchy to accept.

Would need to learn a lot more about the club before he could even contemplate a career at Port.

He's a kicking coach, not a political advisor.
 
He's a kicking coach, not a political advisor.
That might be true, but this 'football club' puts politics before anything else. Aboriginal Hostels lol.
 
If PAFC even sniff that someone is even so much as neutral on LGBT/Indigenous Issues/Identity Politics they'll be straight on the blacklist. Greyhound live baiting ok though.
 

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Its time for the club to suck up its pride and go and get Ben Perkins to become our long term goal kicking coach.

Ken on your $500+k salary, assistant coaches on your $100k-$250k salaries, you have been abject failures in improving our goal kicking. And tell any new fitness guy to piss off if he wants to restrict how many shots they practice on goal.

Don't give me this bullshit we work hard on it crap. How about working smart on it first. Baz Curtain asked Paddy Ryder at the post match function about our goal kicking and he said he thinks its all mental.

Ben Perkins has a proven track record with getting over the mental hurdles. Stirling Mortlock, John Eales, Matt Burke, Matt Giteau at the Wallabies, Warren Tredrea, Daniel Motlop after the Tassie squint eyes kick for goal after the game failure, Shaun Burgoyne at Port, Clarko and Burgoyne got him into the hawks and he worked with Luke Bruest, Jarred Roughead, Lance Franklin and others at the Hawks in 2010. He worked part time with Essendon in 2012.

Ben Perkins is a kook as Francis Leach called him on Monday during his 30 minute segment with Choco. But as Choco said he's a kook, who is successful who intimidates clubs ad that's why they shy away from him. He is a mad right winger, loves Trump, guns and immigration bans, a bit of a nut job, he will challenge and maybe even scare some of our delicate boys. But so what! He gets result!! Listen to Choco and Francis Leach talk about it here from 13.10 to 16.10. Even talks about Jonathan Thurstan's technique.



I'm sick and tired of watching us piss away close games especially at home where we need to draw a crowd to make $$$ on piss weak set shots on goal from 20-40m out straight in front or less than 45 degree angles. Nothing is more frustrating than watching blokes 30m out from goal and poke at the ball and try and steer it thru by changing their technique compared to if they were further out and there is no wind affecting their kick and they miss.

And he is a life long Port Adelaide support. If you have ever seen his videos he has old Port lace up guernseys and wallabies jerseys in the background when he is on the spit about some sporting topic.

KT, Chris Davies just go and get him!! Now - whilst the season is still alive. Ken Hinkley approve it and dont be scared about going after Perkins, because if you don't you will get what you deserve from all these unnecessary loses!

We dont even get 50% accuracy on all our shots on goal because not only do we kick points but we dont make the distance and we kick out of bounds or on the full. I put this graphic in the other thread on kicking, but it belongs here.



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Absolutely on-board with this thread.
 
You watch all the greats at kicking in all codes and they all have a routine they stick to and do it over and over.
Our guys are all over the place like drunken sailors.
Been watching a bit of the Rugby World Cup.
That South African guy Pollard, there’s just no way he’s ever going to miss well that’s the feeling I get watching him kick.
I know he would practice kicking over and over again and your average AFL forward is not going to have the time to do that 24/7.
Thing is you can be sitting in your lounge chair and just watching our guys run in and kick you can tell there going to miss before the boot hits the ball.
Definitely needs improvement
 
Schulz is on the record as saying the key to his goal kicking accuracy was going to the local oval after training and taking 100 extra shots that the club's conditioning staff wouldn't let him take. Practice makes perfect. When you only take 20-30 shots a week as a so-called professional footballer, you can't expect to kick with any sort of consistency.
Maybe the forwards should bath in DC 10 sport.
Now that guy could kick.
 
Would be intrigued to see how Perkins went. Everyone responds differently to styles of teaching. Whilst putting a cat amongst the pidgeons may work for some, could be very destabilising for others.

Todd seemed to have an effective routine. Also maybe seems like the guy that wouldn’t respond to Perkins style (pure speculation here) so outcome could be worse.

Think he might be good for doing some one on ones with some players - Dixon, Lord, Finlayson, Scully, DBJ, Mitch,
 
Could you imagine some like Dixon working with Perkins?

A guy his level of simpleton will have a few lessons with Perkins, listen to him go off topic, then be off the grid at a shack in Queensland within the month.
 
Even if Perkins was disruptive, nothing could be worse than what we're doing now.

No other club is regularly seeing reliable set shots fall into complete disarray. We have it happen with every single KPF.
If he could improve Tredrea, he would have made Butcher Lockett Mrk 2
 

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