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:thumbsdown: Roll yours eyes here champ (jo172)!

Ok

:rolleyes:

But also one for you guys for believing everything you read by the morons on bigfooty:rolleyes:

And for mickycrow, dude, he did nominate for the draft, he just didn't get picked up. No one can nominate specifically for the rookie draft:rolleyes:
 
Dont blame you guys for trying. If anything its a compliment to the truck.

What do you think his motivations would be in a move to Carlton though? Wont be a big increase in salary, with the million dollar man settling down at the blues. I dont see why hed leave his home state to travel to Carlton...
Because your team is history. He will NEVER win a flag with you. He would know if he came to Carlton he'd be every chance. He fills in the missing link. He would be like the last ingredient in a cake. Now all we would have to do is WATCH IT RISE. "Rutton spoils, Walker cleans up, handpasses to Gibbs, Gibbs baulks, handpasses to Murphy, handpasses to Judd, kicks long to Fevola.....Set shot coming up? No wait, he handpasses off to the running Cotchin.......GOAL!!!!!!!"
 
Because your team is history. He will NEVER win a flag with you. He would know if he came to Carlton he'd be every chance. He fills in the missing link. He would be like the last ingredient in a cake. Now all we would have to do is WATCH IT RISE. "Rutton spoils, Walker cleans up, handpasses to Gibbs, Gibbs baulks, handpasses to Murphy, handpasses to Judd, kicks long to Fevola.....Set shot coming up? No wait, he handpasses off to the running Cotchin.......GOAL!!!!!!!"

While I disagree with your premises not to mention your spelling would you agree that under that scenario you're still missing a ruckman? Or is this board still operating under the Rutten is a ruckman premise?
 

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While I disagree with your premises not to mention your spelling would you agree that under that scenario you're still missing a ruckman? Or is this board still operating under the Rutten is a ruckman premise?

Actually, we do have two very good ruckmen.

Aisake O'hAlpin and Hampson

We just need 1 more defender into the mix to because a finals team.
 
Because your team is history. He will NEVER win a flag with you. He would know if he came to Carlton he'd be every chance. He fills in the missing link. He would be like the last ingredient in a cake. Now all we would have to do is WATCH IT RISE. "Rutton spoils, Walker cleans up, handpasses to Gibbs, Gibbs baulks, handpasses to Murphy, handpasses to Judd, kicks long to Fevola.....Set shot coming up? No wait, he handpasses off to the running Cotchin.......GOAL!!!!!!!"


Surely you are joking
Fevola 1 good year in three
Gibbs entirely unproven (little disappointing for mine in year 1)
Murphy classy player
Judd.. superstar

but that is nearly the total of your good players (I'd add Waite, Stevens, Scotland and Carazzo maybe Fisher) I might have left 1-2 out but no more. Even with Judd you guys are miles off the mark, LONG way to go. Every chance to win a flag at Carlton if he can play to 50
 
Surely you are joking
Fevola 1 good year in three
Gibbs entirely unproven (little disappointing for mine in year 1)
Murphy classy player
Judd.. superstar

but that is nearly the total of your good players (I'd add Waite, Stevens, Scotland and Carazzo maybe Fisher) I might have left 1-2 out but no more. Even with Judd you guys are miles off the mark, LONG way to go. Every chance to win a flag at Carlton if he can play to 50

We'll just see about that, won't we.
We pushed you guys to within about 3 goals at TD earlier in the season.
 
If you can get judd you can get anyone? thats what happens when you lose 11 straight games. thats what happens when youre the worst club in the comp for 6 years. and didn't your boss just declare hed colluded in price fixing? st kilda had a heap of good players and it did them no good. youll be a successful team again if you can get it together off the field. ggod luck to you, but it wont happen because youve got some good players as a reward for being dead ordinairy.
 
If you can get judd you can get anyone? thats what happens when you lose 11 straight games. thats what happens when youre the worst club in the comp for 6 years. and didn't your boss just declare hed colluded in price fixing? st kilda had a heap of good players and it did them no good. youll be a successful team again if you can get it together off the field. ggod luck to you, but it wont happen because youve got some good players as a reward for being dead ordinairy.

You sound a little bitter. Your list is old, slow and talentless, and relying more and more on crowd-destroying ultra-flooding and sport-science techniques to get you into finals, for a quick exit. No wonder the regional SA Clubs find it hard to get people to attend their games. Boring, dull, lifeless footy. :)
 
Its a whole paddock of pumpkins on this one.

I was just fishing to see whether or not you blokes have got over being caught paying bloke's under the table to win a premiership, no doubt Pratt is doing the same but then again he has been caught as well hasn't he ,wonder how much he will tip in next year after he get's what's coming to him.

And the AFL has propped up your club to a flag. We did the crime, we did the time. We've moved on. Weak effort throwing this stuff at us now.

you think the best full back ion the comp at 24 who is a future captain of our club wont sign, juddmania has gone to your salary cap evading heads.

Get it through your snowtown bank vault of a brain....history...move along children.

Lol Talking about Dudds

Half Carltons team = Dudds

And Judd wanted to go to Carlton Because he wanted a wooden sppon:thumbsu:

Prize for funniest post on BF. Coming from a pickle who supports a whole team of duds coached by a tanned tanking dud, with a football managing uber dud. L-O-Effing-L


Surely you are joking
Fevola 1 good year in three
Gibbs entirely unproven (little disappointing for mine in year 1)
Murphy classy player
Judd.. superstar

Even with Judd you guys are miles off the mark, LONG way to go. Every chance to win a flag at Carlton if he can play to 50

*Spits chips into beer glass* You are kidding here? A bottom aged draftee plays every game in a poorly performing team with mostly class, poise and aplomb????

Fair cop mate, that is rich.

And in an even comp, teams can change their fortunes much quicker than in the past......50 years? Please. Been a decade now for you chokers isn't it? Starting to worry I'd imagine.

If you can get judd you can get anyone? thats what happens when you lose 11 straight games. thats what happens when youre the worst club in the comp for 6 years. and didn't your boss just declare hed colluded in price fixing? st kilda had a heap of good players and it did them no good. youll be a successful team again if you can get it together off the field. ggod luck to you, but it wont happen because youve got some good players as a reward for being dead ordinairy.

Pillock, we know our team has not performed for a very log time. Do you REALLY think coming here and TELLING us so is a useful smart thing to do?

Our president has some issues, which have NOTHING to do with the team.

And getting good players for being dead ordinary is your final pillock of an attack? ISNT THAT WHAT THE EFFIN DRAFT AND EFFIN SALARY CAP ARE MEANT TO EFFIN DO TO EFFIN EVEN UP THIS EFFIN COMPETITION?????
 
You sound a little bitter. Your list is old, slow and talentless, and relying more and more on crowd-destroying ultra-flooding and sport-science techniques to get you into finals, for a quick exit. No wonder the regional SA Clubs find it hard to get people to attend their games. Boring, dull, lifeless footy. :)


No not bitter - just honest. anything i said that wasnt true??

and i dont disagree with anything youve said about adelaide - i dont like the style of footy they play - regularly going 40 minutes without a goal drives me nuts

but you dont watch much local sa footy obviously

and if teams are rewarded for poor performance then it stands to reason the competition will head down that road
 
Pillock, we know our team has not performed for a very log time. Do you REALLY think coming here and TELLING us so is a useful smart thing to do?

Our president has some issues, which have NOTHING to do with the team.

And getting good players for being dead ordinary is your final pillock of an attack? ISNT THAT WHAT THE EFFIN DRAFT AND EFFIN SALARY CAP ARE MEANT TO EFFIN DO TO EFFIN EVEN UP THIS EFFIN COMPETITION?????[/quote]


but as a football lover what are the consequences of rewarding mediocre form?

if being shocking leads to success then why wouldnt a team regularly embarrass itself on the footy field?
 

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but as a football lover what are the consequences of rewarding mediocre form?

if being shocking leads to success then why wouldnt a team regularly embarrass itself on the footy field?

learn how to quote oj

...read my sig. i think its a pathetic system,

You are implying we have been deliberately crap for 6 years. That is what has annoyed me.

A team decimated by poor recruiting in the late 90's, has a series of ill timed retirements, plus board instability, draft penalties, a newbie coach who can't coach, then a new coach with one outmoded ill fitting game plan who has more knives in his back than Caesar, another poor administration, more crap drafting, then a team of kids plays without its most experienced midfielder, a hack ruckman, no defender,

and all the tryhards call us tankers???
 
Actually, we do have two very good ruckmen.

Aisake O'hAlpin and Hampson

We just need 1 more defender into the mix to because a finals team.

Sure they both have potential, but declaring yourself a finals team based on two very inexperienced ruckmen as crucial players seems a bit dodgy to me, but hey that's BF for you.

And Parrot you make flawed and incorrect answers based on false premises. You are a theatre of the truly inane.
 
Sure they both have potential, but declaring yourself a finals team based on two very inexperienced ruckmen as crucial players seems a bit dodgy to me, but hey that's BF for you.

Did I actually say when we would be a finals team?

If you check through all my recent posts about where Carlton will finish next year, I have said 9th-12th and maybe 8th if we were to have a good run at the end of the year.

However, 2009 we should be seriously pushing for a finals berth.
 
*Spits chips into beer glass* You are kidding here? A bottom aged draftee plays every game in a poorly performing team with mostly class, poise and aplomb????

Fair cop mate, that is rich.

And in an even comp, teams can change their fortunes much quicker than in the past......50 years? Please. Been a decade now for you chokers isn't it? Starting to worry I'd imagine.

You must be joking sosos

but the point is in a year when we were generallly regarded to underperform and have injuries+++ we won more games as your team has the LAST 3 years

If I was a Carlton supporter Id be optimistic but I would be careful not to point the finger at any other club, because in the last 5 years your club has been by a space the worst club on and off the field, and whilst being excluded for the first 2 rounds of the draft in 2 years didnt help, it is only a small component of your mediocrity (Mick Martyn, Dylan Mclaren etc x100)
Id suggest you settle down and aim for about 12th next year. The good clubs (West Coast/Crows/Port.. hate to say that) rebuild in the blink of an eye, seems to be taking your team about 10 years
 
Sure they both have potential, but declaring yourself a finals team based on two very inexperienced ruckmen as crucial players seems a bit dodgy to me, but hey that's BF for you.

And Parrot you make flawed and incorrect answers based on false premises. You are a theatre of the truly inane.

I thought my comments hit the spot and were insightful. Have you ever wondered why footy commentators dread watching Crows games. Joy-less, ultra-flooding, sub-10-goal slug fests. Bad for spectators, bad for ratings, bad for football. Just painful. :)
 
Sure they both have potential, but declaring yourself a finals team based on two very inexperienced ruckmen as crucial players seems a bit dodgy to me, but hey that's BF for you.

And Parrot you make flawed and incorrect answers based on false premises. You are a theatre of the truly inane.

I think you mean he makes flawed and incorrect "arguments" or "statements" or is "drawing conclusions" - not "answers" - based on false premises. Despite that, would you say he is making a "sound" argument? Can you make a sound argument based on false premises? Let me give you an example:

P1: You follow Adelaide
P2: Only ********s follow Adelaide
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C: You are a ********

This is actually a "sound" argument. The premises, if true, lead to the conclusion. If the premises are also true, then what does it say about the overall argument? Is it cogent or something? Tell me winner. Get your ****ing textbook back out and tell me.
 

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P1: You follow Adelaide
P2: Only ********s follow Adelaide
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C: You are a ********

This is actually a "sound" argument. The premises, if true, lead to the conclusion. If the premises are also true, then what does it say about the overall argument? Is it cogent or something? Tell me winner. Get your ****ing textbook back out and tell me.

I think the type of thinking your using is called a syllogism;)

And the point I was making is that Parrot claims the Crows are turning away crowds due to 'boring football' whereas in fact they consistently have the highest membership levels and profits in the AFL. But hey, if you guys want to keep celebrating mediocrity while playing 'exciting football' be my guest.
 
I think the type of thinking your using is called a syllogism;)

And the point I was making is that Parrot claims the Crows are turning away crowds due to 'boring football' whereas in fact they consistently have the highest membership levels and profits in the AFL. But hey, if you guys want to keep celebrating mediocrity while playing 'exciting football' be my guest.

Getting plenty of support is not exactly hard to do when you have an entire state following one side barring the occasional port supporter.

I wouldn't go out of my way to watch a Adelaide game but thankfully that style of footy is getting found out and we're seeing it less and less.
 
Getting plenty of support is not exactly hard to do when you have an entire state following one side barring the occasional port supporter.

I wouldn't go out of my way to watch a Adelaide game but thankfully that style of footy is getting found out and we're seeing it less and less.

mate your team has had an extraordinary number of unwatchable players the last 5 years

Mcgrath, Mclaren, Ackland, Bowyer, Gallagher

I could go on forever

So I will
French, Chambers, Bryan, Longmuir

awful. just sit back and pray Judd alone triples your win/loss ratio. I guess you might try after round 12 this year, might help

If you ever get the chance to watch a crows game, have a look at Mcleod or Burton. Boring.... might be if Dylan Mclaren is more your thing.
 
mate your team has had an extraordinary number of unwatchable players the last 5 years

Mcgrath, Mclaren, Ackland, Bowyer, Gallagher

I could go on forever

So I will
French, Chambers, Bryan, Longmuir

awful. just sit back and pray Judd alone triples your win/loss ratio. I guess you might try after round 12 this year, might help

If you ever get the chance to watch a crows game, have a look at Mcleod or Burton. Boring.... might be if Dylan Mclaren is more your thing.

Gallagher managed 26 games for Adelaide whilst we got rid of him after 7 games.
 
mate your team has had an extraordinary number of unwatchable players the last 5 years

Mcgrath, Mclaren, Ackland, Bowyer, Gallagher

I could go on forever

So I will
French, Chambers, Bryan, Longmuir

awful. just sit back and pray Judd alone triples your win/loss ratio. I guess you might try after round 12 this year, might help

If you ever get the chance to watch a crows game, have a look at Mcleod or Burton. Boring.... might be if Dylan Mclaren is more your thing.

OMG... in the worse period in our clubs history we've had some poor players :eek:

I would never have guesed :rolleyes:

What does being a poor player has to do with playing boring footy?

Adelaide play boring footy. Nobody who doesn't support Adelaide could argue otherwise.
 
OMG... in the worse period in our clubs history we've had some poor players :eek:

I would never have guesed :rolleyes:

What does being a poor player has to do with playing boring footy?

Adelaide play boring footy. Nobody who doesn't support Adelaide could argue otherwise.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Hate to say it but;)
 
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