Society/Culture Ben Shapiro

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I don't believe the first is required for the second.

Without getting into a debate on the false progress 'tolerance' represents, pushing negative attitudes to the background where they fester, identifying people by single issues and reducing their concept of acceptance to that issue is cheap.

People need to stop carving their space in the world out of what makes them slightly different to everyone else.

We are so much the same, far more than we are different.
 

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I don't believe the first is required for the second.

Without getting into a debate on the false progress 'tolerance' represents, pushing negative attitudes to the background where they fester, identifying people by single issues and reducing their concept of acceptance to that issue is cheap.

People need to stop carving their space in the world out of what makes them slightly different to everyone else.

We are so much the same, far more than we are different.
It's that last sentence which is a part of the problem, though.
 
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It's also confined to the most unfunded and obscure part of universities.

The issue is with ascribing huge societal changes to cultural Marxism or post-modernism. It's just conspiratorial stupidity.

I think you must have read somewhere that cultural Marxism is a conspiracy theory then repeated it without thinking it through.

Roz Ward is a good example of someone who self identifies as a Marxist and emphasises social and cultural themes. It's fitting to describe her and those like her as cultural Marxists. She has used her position in academia to promote a government funded, radical social agenda based on queer theory, across all Victorian schools.

Pretty much every university in the Western world would now have a 'Gender Studies' department which they didn't have 30 years ago. It's all post-modern, some of it is Marxist influenced, but to dismiss it as 'unfunded and obscure' is head in the sand stupidity.
 
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It is a program that teaches a persons gender can be chosen and society conditions people to be heterosexual.

Safe Schools is not part of the Victorian Curriculum - rather it is a commitment that schools make to be inclusive places for all students, including LGBTI students. The Department of Education provides information, resources and professional learning that have been developed by experts for school staff to use as they see fit to prevent discrimination against LGBTI students. The school I work at is a "Safe School", but being such has had no impact on anything I teach.

Schools are free to implement the program in a way that best suits their students and community. Its simply a program to help schools and students understand and respect that people should not be discriminated against for any reason - including gender and sexual diversity. Basically schools can choose what they like from a range of evidence-based and age-appropriate information and resources to help them prevent, and respond to, bullying and discrimination based on sexual orientation, gender identity or intersex status.

Safe Schools is not a sex education program, nor does it teach sexual practices. Nothing about the Safe Schools program encourages students to question or change their gender or sexuality.

There are no role playing or acting exercises in the optional Safe Schools teaching resources. Rather, one interactive exercise invites students to imagine themselves in someone else’s shoes.
 

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I think you must have read somewhere that cultural Marxism is a conspiracy theory then repeated it without thinking it through.

Roz Ward is a good example of someone who self identifies as a Marxist and emphasises social and cultural themes. It's fitting to describe her and those like her as cultural Marxists. She has used her position in academia to promote a government funded, radical social agenda based on queer theory, across all Victorian schools.

Pretty much every university in the Western world would now have a 'Gender Studies' department which they didn't have 30 years ago. It's all post-modern, some of it is Marxist influenced, but to dismiss it as 'unfunded and obscure' is head in the sand stupidity.
Roz Ward. She's the one who claimed that 50% of schoolkids are gay. Lol.
 
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I think you must have read somewhere that cultural Marxism is a conspiracy theory then repeated it without thinking it through.

Roz Ward is a good example of someone who self identifies as a Marxist and emphasises social and cultural themes. It's fitting to describe her and those like her as cultural Marxists. She has used her position in academia to promote a government funded, radical social agenda based on queer theory, across all Victorian schools.

Pretty much every university in the Western world would now have a 'Gender Studies' department which they didn't have 30 years ago. It's all post-modern, some of it is Marxist influenced, but to dismiss it as 'unfunded and obscure' is head in the sand stupidity.
Nope.

These gender studies departments are usually one of the first to get a haircut when the need for cuts comes around. Universities are being run more and more along neo-liberal lines now. Conservatives on this board have been told how universities run (it's not from the sociology department) but it doesn't get through.

Now, you have to make the case that the old red Ward has developed this program independent of any non-Marxist influences, has gotten schools to accept it whole and teachers will teach all of these marxist resources free of any criticism of it.

You have been asked repeatedly to demonstrate one Marxist resource within this safe schools program. You have been asked to show schools teaching it.

You have failed to do so.

A government school teacher has confirmed that this program is largely voluntary where schools have the agency to pick and choose what to teach from it and how to teach it.

These are the facts, and your feelings on the matter don't change them.
 

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I hate when the likes of Ben Sharpio espouses equality of opportunity as some virtue of the right and claims the left is all about equality of outcome. That maybe true for the extreme left, but many more on the far right don't even believe we are equal.
Equality of opportunity is a position held by everyone not at the extremes with the only point to argue how best to facilitate that opportunity.
 

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When did I do that?



You can't be serious? Let's look at the links on the Safe Schools Coalition resources page.
  • Safe Schools Do Better - an introductory guide to supporting gender diversity, intersex and sexual diversity in schools. It includes key research that underpins the need for more inclusive practices and practical information about how to create change.
This is the Safe Schools Coalition Australia guide that outlines eight simple ideas to get started in creating an inclusive safe school. For information about your school joining the Safe Schools Coalition Australia to create a safe and more inclusive learning environment that respects gender diversity, download the membership form.​
  • Guide to Inclusive School Formals a guide supporting schools to ensure that school formals, debs, dances or other events are inclusive for same sex attracted, intersex and gender diverse students
  • The SSCA's teaching and learning resource, titled All Of Us
All Of Us is a collection of short videos and teaching activities designed by Safe Schools Coalition Australia in order to assist students in understanding gender diversity, sexual diversity and intersex topics.​

http://www.safeschoolscoalition.org.au/resources
The Safe Schools Coalition doesn't run the Safe Schools program in Victoria - no Roz Ward. Its run by the department of Education. Here is a link to the Safe school Victoria website http://www.education.vic.gov.au/about/programs/Pages/safeschools.aspx#link30
 

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I hate when the likes of Ben Sharpio espouses equality of opportunity as some virtue of the right and claims the left is all about equality of outcome. That maybe true for the extreme left, but many more on the far right don't even believe we are equal.
Equality of opportunity is a position held by everyone not at the extremes with the only point to argue how best to facilitate that opportunity.

I like the post dude, but that head in that avatar of yours is just so punchable....it's not even funny.
 
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Nope.

These gender studies departments are usually one of the first to get a haircut when the need for cuts comes around. Universities are being run more and more along neo-liberal lines now. Conservatives on this board have been told how universities run (it's not from the sociology department) but it doesn't get through.

Now, you have to make the case that the old red Ward has developed this program independent of any non-Marxist influences, has gotten schools to accept it whole and teachers will teach all of these marxist resources free of any criticism of it.

You have been asked repeatedly to demonstrate one Marxist resource within this safe schools program. You have been asked to show schools teaching it.

You have failed to do so.

A government school teacher has confirmed that this program is largely voluntary where schools have the agency to pick and choose what to teach from it and how to teach it.

So you are no longer claiming that cultural Marxism is a just a conspiracy theory dreamt up by Nazis. I guess this is progress.

The rest of your post is complete waffle.

Feel free to name all the gender studies departments that have been shut down because 'Universities are being run more and more along neo-liberal lines now'.

Roz Ward identifies as a Marxist and emphasises social and cultural themes. She's a cultural Marxist. She has used her position in academia to promote a government funded, radical social agenda based on queer theory, across all Victorian schools. It makes a nonsense of your claim that it was 'confined to the most unfunded and obscure part of universities'.

The program was largely introduced without scrutiny and criticism because it was implemented under the guise of 'anti-bullying'. If they has correctly termed it 'promotion of queer theory to school children' it would not have seen the light of day.

These are the facts, and your feelings on the matter don't change them.

The ironing from the Godfather of postmodernism that has led to this mess, 'There are no facts, only interpretations'.
 
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The ironing from the Godfather of postmodernism that has led to this mess, 'There are no facts, only interpretations'.

Nietzsche is like that naughty little intuitive wise-cracking kid in the corner....Who can see through everything you say & pick it all apart in a jiffy.

But ask him to stand up & show you something of substance & merit & all he has is riddles, puzzles & games.....The trickster had him by the short & curly's.

It's fine to pull the entire structure of the Western traditions apart, piece by piece.....But building something more integral from that rubble is not a prescription in Nietzsche's notepad.
 
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So you are no longer claiming that cultural Marxism is a just a conspiracy theory dreamt up by Nazis. I guess this is progress.

The rest of your post is complete waffle.

Feel free to name all the gender studies departments that have been shut down because 'Universities are being run more and more along neo-liberal lines now'.

Roz Ward identifies as a Marxist and emphasises social and cultural themes. She's a cultural Marxist. She has used her position in academia to promote a government funded, radical social agenda based on queer theory, across all Victorian schools. It makes a nonsense of your claim that it was 'confined to the most unfunded and obscure part of universities'.

The program was largely introduced without scrutiny and criticism because it was implemented under the guise of 'anti-bullying'. If they has correctly termed it 'promotion of queer theory to school children' it would not have seen the light of day.



The ironing from the Godfather of postmodernism that has led to this mess, 'There are no facts, only interpretations'.
Waffle. There is only one group of people pushing the idea of cultural marxism.

Produce one primary source example of Marxist indoctrination of students.

One.
 

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Waffle. There is only one group of people pushing the idea of cultural marxism.

Produce one primary source example of Marxist indoctrination of students.

One.
Let kids be kids! Teach them about, budgeting, being independent, learning to think and make decisions for them self, in stead of grooming them & force feeding stuff at a far to young an age!

No wonder kids are confused vegetables now days
 
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