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Opinion Ben Sinclair - Never again

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Elliott always showed with his marking ability an asset worth persisting with.

Sinclair makes me cringe when he gains possession.
Didak is the opposite of Sinclair in almost every way.


Didak is not a pressure forward, that's not a good comparison. I think Didak is a fantastic weapon if he's fit, but he's not competing with Sinclair in my view. He's competing with the likes of Young or Krakouer. A player like Fasolo, Cafe or Kennedy is on his hammer.

I hope it's Kennedy because he has the pace.
 
Last week he kicked two goals - as a small forward two goals is a pass mark.
One of those was handed to him a few metres out by Pendlebury. He also kicked two out on the full and was ****ing awful. Exceptionally lucky to keep his spot going into this game.
 
Didak is not a pressure forward, that's not a good comparison. I think Didak is a fantastic weapon if he's fit, but he's not competing with Sinclair in my view. He's competing with the likes of Young or Krakouer. A player like Fasolo, Cafe or Kennedy is on his hammer.

I hope it's Kennedy because he has the pace.
I think that's what he means by them being completely opposite.

But agree, Fasolo is ahead of him at this stage, I'd like to see him dropped for Fasolo, Elliott and Goldsack as the primary pressure forwards. Didak there to link up play and create opportunities/goals.
 

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I don't know how I feel about this forward pressure nonsense. I think we need to work with what we have got. Every team wants a Cyril Rioli, that's where all this garbage about speedy small forwards really locking the ball in the fwd 50 came from, we don't have any player near his type. If you have a decent crumber anywhere in the forward 50 they should be able to snap at goal when the ball falls to ground. No speed required. Better to have fast midfielders. No better forward pressure than kicking goals.
I think you do.
 
I just don't think you can have such a one dimensional player in your team in this day and age. In my view we'd be better off going back to the VFL and just attempting to turn him into a lock down small defender (a real area of need for us) because right now he has none of the attributes that make a forward a forward. The press is only a weapon if your forwards are dangerous in front of goal as well as capable of producing intense pressure, and right now sinclair stands out as someone who just doesn't hurt the opposition.

The thing is, right now all he can do is tackle. He doesn't get a lot of the ball, and when he does his disposal is average, he gets caught behind constantly and outmarked which leads to constant turnovers, doesn't kick goals, etc (something like 5 from the last 12 games) This is the time of the year when we have to be sorting out the wheat from the chaff and some tough decisions need to be made on players who don't contribute enough.

I like his attitude, and I definitely want him to succeed, but he needs to iron out his flaws in the VFL.
 
Terrible over reaction thread.
100% agree, blame people for our loss but starting with Sinclair is the most unfair thing that I have heard. What about Cloke missing set shots, what about numerous players dropping marks, what about numerous players not making tackles stick, what about players taking on tacklers unsuccessfully, what about umpires not applying the new sliding rule to our benefit, what about umpires not paying holding the ball against Hawthorn when in the reverse situation pinging us without remorse. Lots of people performed at lot worse than Sinclair, why make him the whipping boy, when a lot of people performed so much worse? Do you support us or not.
 
100% agree, blame people for our loss but starting with Sinclair is the most unfair thing that I have heard. What about Cloke missing set shots, what about numerous players dropping marks, what about numerous players not making tackles stick, what about players taking on tacklers unsuccessfully, what about umpires not applying the new sliding rule to our benefit, what about umpires not paying holding the ball against Hawthorn when in the reverse situation pinging us without remorse. Lots of people performed at lot worse than Sinclair, why make him the whipping boy, when a lot of people performed so much worse? Do you support us or not.
They were on sharp angles today
 
Cloke's first 2 set shots were same spot, but on opposite sides. Being a left footer you'd think he'd nail the one on the right, nup, kicked a shocker. Managed to kick one on the left side lol.

Amazing.
 

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They were on sharp angles today
not all of them, and Pendles missed some targets by hand and foot, get rid of him, Swan didn't impact the scoreboard get rid of him, Harry gave away a free kick when a Hawk slid into his legs, get rid of him, Dwyer got caught a couple of times, get rid of him, Sidebottom missed a couple of targets, get rid of him, Lynch got pinged in the ruck a couple of times get rid of him, aw hell they lost get rid of all of them. That's the way to go side by side guys keep up the support but only when we win.
 
He needs to be dropped. He played ok last week but I have never rated him except maybe that mid season form he hit last year. But for the majority he has been shocking.

Simply applying pressure doesn't cut it. People defend him like no tomorrow yet jump on russell on one error. Crazy stuff.

If dids, krak and caff aren't ready debut kennedy.... he showed more in one NAB cup much than sinclair did in the entire year last season.
 
One of those was handed to him a few metres out by Pendlebury. He also kicked two out on the full and was ******* awful. Exceptionally lucky to keep his spot going into this game.
Completely agree. He has been awful in all 3 games this year. He had 4 kicks and no tackles up to half time today. He basically just minded space. I want my forwards to do more than mind space. He has no poise in front of goal and unfortunately poise is something you either have or you don't have. He doesn't have it and never will have it. Needs to be dropped.
 
I don't think he's at home in the wet, he's much better on top of the ground, i don't think he's in our best 22 though ATM, he needs to step it up.
 
He tries his guts out no doubt but he is just not good enough atm to warrant a game. He does nothing apart from chase opposition players around. He gets destroyed in the air, cant kick so save himself and is a liability. Might aswell recruit the fastest bloke we can find in the country who has never played a game in his life if we simply want forward pressure.

Much better to get players in who can actually cause the opposition backman headaches.
 
Our backlines more of a worry than our forwards. Which hasnt been the case for years.

Sinclair still has to remain in , as much as i love didak and hes been my favourite player for the past decade. He doesnt have the forward pressure of Sinclair or the agression to tackle constantly.

Krakouer is probably the one for me that springs to midn that takes either elliot or Sinclairs spot in the team. At this stage , the way elliot is going in terms of form , it could well be Sinclair making way. However you have to swap like for like to get the right balance.

In terms of Caff , seems to me also that Goldy has taken his spot.
 

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100% agree, blame people for our loss but starting with Sinclair is the most unfair thing that I have heard. What about Cloke missing set shots, what about numerous players dropping marks, what about numerous players not making tackles stick, what about players taking on tacklers unsuccessfully, what about umpires not applying the new sliding rule to our benefit, what about umpires not paying holding the ball against Hawthorn when in the reverse situation pinging us without remorse. Lots of people performed at lot worse than Sinclair, why make him the whipping boy, when a lot of people performed so much worse? Do you support us or not.
Hopefully that maggot will be dropped.
 
Cloke's first 2 set shots were same spot, but on opposite sides. Being a left footer you'd think he'd nail the one on the right, nup, kicked a shocker. Managed to kick one on the left side lol.

Amazing.
Cloke logic. Never know what you'll get. o_O
 
The excuse for him getting a game was that he applies pressure.

So when he doesn't? He's not exactly crucial personnel, so if he's not going to get the ball, or do anything when he does, he sure as shit better be the best forward pressure player in the comp, and he's far from that.

Elliott may have gone out of the game, but he kicked 3 goals. He did his damage. Even then, I still saw him chase and harass. Sinclair has had more than enough time to make his worth known. Think one of Krakouer or Didak needs their spot back.
 
I would like to have some genuine crumbing forwards. The amount of times we see Elliot (as good as he has been), Sinclair, Fasolo, Thomas all competing for a pack mark with Cloke/Lynch is frustrating. Once the ball hits the deck it gets rebounded with extreme ease! It is why I like having Krakouer and to an extent Macaffer in the side. They know their role and get front and centre when a pack emerges and get to dangerous spots. Obviously if you think you can take the mark go for it, but realistically our forwards need to be smarter and stop competing for a mark with one another! Have players stay down to either get the crumb, or lock the ball in rather than it being rebounded out with no pressure whatsoever!
 
Cloke's first 2 set shots were same spot, but on opposite sides. Being a left footer you'd think he'd nail the one on the right, nup, kicked a shocker. Managed to kick one on the left side lol.

Amazing.
Saw something interesting on facebook the other day, the AFL posted a graphic dividing up the 50m arc and showing who was the best shot from various spots (10m out left/rightcentre, 30m out left/right centre etc.). Cloke was the best shot from 50m out on the left side of the 50m arc, which should be his hardest kick, but he's the best at it in the AFL o_O
He was awesome yesterday.

Sinclair was no good, I'd like to see him dropped personally.
 
Krakouer is probably the one for me that springs to midn that takes either elliot or Sinclairs spot in the team. At this stage , the way elliot is going in terms of form , it could well be Sinclair making way. However you have to swap like for like to get the right balance.
Surely you jest. Elliott >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sinclair.
 

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