Prediction Best 22 - 2016

[Saintly31]

I certainly don't under appreciate spud. I just think for us to progress further as a team then Luke is one of a handful of players who needs to improve for us. I'm backing him to have a big pre season and actually do that. Unfortunately for spud I have him going out of the team for Luke.

That's a fair explanation.

I think Spud is far ahead of LMac at the moment (unless a drastic loss of form), and if he wants a place in the team then it will need to come from elsewhere.

If rebuilding then yes i'd be with you for sure, get rid of the vets including Boomer and Petrie (neither of which had a better year than Spud IMO), but we aren't, so the best players should play and Spud is clearly best 22 ATM.

It's a good problem to have though and if LMac can go up a level or two would be a massive plus

 

[The Nostradamus]

I certainly don't under appreciate spud. I just think for us to progress further as a team then Luke is one of a handful of players who needs to improve for us. I'm backing him to have a big pre season and actually do that. Unfortunately for spud I have him going out of the team for Luke.

Agreed.
And Nick bowen's best 22 is good because he factors things like this in and has a few younger guys like Anderson and McDonald in the team ahead of Gibson and spud

 

[TooUglyForFugly]

Geezus. Really wished that last post on the previous page wasn't there ...

Only because I have to stare at it for the 15 seconds it takes my browser to get to this page.

I'd be very surprised if more than three players from the prelim were changed come round 1. Unless it's from injuries.

 

[jess_1804]

Yep he is. Obviously.

Heard a whisper that Wells is looking A1 and much leaner. (just at the supermarket where he lives, but still....)

He is very important to any flag chance we have so hopefully signs are good

From the quick footage of him running at training earlier this week, he looks a million bucks compared to this time last year. Just looks fit and ready to go, not carrying any extra weight. Same goes for LT, he's looking trim and fit too!

 

[Rockstar6]

Seniors:
B: Sam Wright, Robbie Tarrant, Michael Firrito

HB: Jamie MacMillan, Scott Thompson, Shaun Atley

C: Sam Gibson, Ben Jacobs, Nick Dal Santo

HF: Brent Harvey, Drew Petrie, Shaun Higgins

F: Jed Anderson, Jarrad Waite, Jack Ziebell

R: Todd Goldstein, Ben Cunnington, Andrew Swallow

I: Daniel Wells, Ben Brown, Lachlan Hansen, Lindsay Thomas

Reserves:
B: Luke McDonald, Joel Tippett, Daniel Nielson

HB: Ed Vickers-Willis, Sam Durdin, Aaron Mullett

C: Declan Mountford, Brad McKenzie, Will Fordham

HF: Taylor Garner, Ben McKay, Mason Wood

F: Kayne Turner, Majak Daw, Robin Nahas

R: Braydon Preuss, Trent Dumont, Ryan Clarke

I: Aaron Black, Farren Ray, Corey Wagner, Mitch Hibberd

I couldn't squeeze Garner in due to the arrival of Anderson (I assume he will be best 22 from round 1) but if we decide to go smaller, does Hansen come out or can Garner push a presumably fully fit Thomas out?

 

[roos_fanatic08]

I might get eaten apart here but I think our backline needs a little bit of a shake up. I wouldn't be against mixing it up. (I would also be happy if it stays the same as long as it maintains similar output to last year)

Going with Tippett on the gorillas, Tarrant on the 2nd tall and with Thompson on the 3rd tall or small.

go with that instead of Thompson, Tarrant, Hansen and Firrito. Gives us an extra runner who can rotate through the midfield. At times this year our backline really lacked some drive and polish. Rotate, Dal, Wells, Atley, McMillan and McDonald through the extra spot.

 

[shniko11]

Seniors:
B: Sam Wright, Robbie Tarrant, Michael Firrito

HB: Jamie MacMillan, Scott Thompson, Shaun Atley

C: Sam Gibson, Ben Jacobs, Nick Dal Santo

HF: Brent Harvey, Drew Petrie, Shaun Higgins

F: Jed Anderson, Jarrad Waite, Jack Ziebell

R: Todd Goldstein, Ben Cunnington, Andrew Swallow

I: Daniel Wells, Ben Brown, Lachlan Hansen, Lindsay Thomas

Reserves:
B: Luke McDonald, Joel Tippett, Daniel Nielson

HB: Ed Vickers-Willis, Sam Durdin, Aaron Mullett

C: Declan Mountford, Brad McKenzie, Will Fordham

HF: Taylor Garner, Ben McKay, Mason Wood

F: Kayne Turner, Majak Daw, Robin Nahas

R: Braydon Preuss, Trent Dumont, Ryan Clarke

I: Aaron Black, Farren Ray, Corey Wagner, Mitch Hibberd

I couldn't squeeze Garner in due to the arrival of Anderson (I assume he will be best 22 from round 1) but if we decide to go smaller, does Hansen come out or can Garner push a presumably fully fit Thomas out?

Gee that's a Strong Seniors line up with Wells hopefully ready to go and the addition of Anderson.
Turner,Garner and a few others could start depending on pre season form. And i'm really hoping Mullet can find his way into the 22 at some stage with solid form.

 

[The Nostradamus]

I might get eaten apart here but I think our backline needs a little bit of a shake up. I wouldn't be against mixing it up. (I would also be happy if it stays the same as long as it maintains similar output to last year)

Going with Tippett on the gorillas, Tarrant on the 2nd tall and with Thompson on the 3rd tall or small.

go with that instead of Thompson, Tarrant, Hansen and Firrito. Gives us an extra runner who can rotate through the midfield. At times this year our backline really lacked some drive and polish. Rotate, Dal, Wells, Atley, McMillan and McDonald through the extra spot.

Agree and have been preaching this for a while now.
Tippett and Tarrant as the two big key defenders with Thompson 3rd tall.

So would look like this
B: Wright Tippett Thompson
HB: Atley Tarrant McDonald

 

[TooUglyForFugly]

I might get eaten apart here but I think our backline needs a little bit of a shake up. I wouldn't be against mixing it up. (I would also be happy if it stays the same as long as it maintains similar output to last year)

Going with Tippett on the gorillas, Tarrant on the 2nd tall and with Thompson on the 3rd tall or small.

go with that instead of Thompson, Tarrant, Hansen and Firrito. Gives us an extra runner who can rotate through the midfield. At times this year our backline really lacked some drive and polish. Rotate, Dal, Wells, Atley, McMillan and McDonald through the extra spot.

I think the majority is in agreement that Thompson does us absolutely zero good as a key defender anymore.

Just a query on Tippett's competence.

 

[the big lebowski]

I think the majority is in agreement that Thompson does us absolutely zero good as a key defender anymore.

Just a query on Tippett's competence.

If that's the case then you can't play all of Hansen spud and Thompson

 

[roos_fanatic08]

If that's the case then you can't play all of Hansen spud and Thompson

That was kind of my point. Thompson essentially plays Hansen's role, Tippo takes over from Thompson and Spud loses his place for more run and for someone who can rotate through the midfield a bit more.


The 4 big slow defenders (spud, Hansen, taz and Thompson) worked on occasions for us last year but it left us severely out of sorts whenever opposition got a quick clearance from our 50 arc

 

[kangaspurs]

I think the majority is in agreement that Thompson does us absolutely zero good as a key defender anymore.

Just a query on Tippett's competence.

There's no query about it. He's just not good enough to play a meaningful role in where we want to go. He's a good depth player and can step in and do a job in case of injury. He has a serious lack of offensive capability and teams can only carry a defender with poor rebounding skills and poor kicking skills if they're an absolutely elite lockdown defender and Tippett is nowhere near elite in that respect.

He should only play as a stop gap in case of injury and even then I'd rather see Nielsen or Durdin played before him as there is a fair chance that they'll be a part of our long term future.

 

[Rockstar6]

Agree and have been preaching this for a while now.
Tippett and Tarrant as the two big key defenders with Thompson 3rd tall.

So would look like this
B: Wright Tippett Thompson
HB: Atley Tarrant McDonald

I hope you have JMac and Spud in the team somewhere. As it stands right now, Firrito gets a game before Tippett and JMac before LMac. Tarrant didnt get a crack at Tex in 2015 and I can guarantee he will in 2016 (barring injury or suspension).

 

[Bigeasy]

Hansen Tarrant. Wright
JMac. Petrie. Atley
Wells Cunnington. Higgins
Garner. Waite. Anderson
Zeibell. Brown. LT

Goldy. Swallow. Dumont

Harvey, Jacobs. Dal. Hibberd

Notable outs

McKenzie - Needs more tricks apart from his kicking. Showed signs late last year with his attack on the ball and man so I would be grooming him for a high half forward line and add goal kicking to his game.

Firitto - love him but I feel we need a change in the backline so for Petrie to play CHB means Spud had to make way.

Thompson - I hear the howls of protestation from here but I don't rate Hunter's last two years and he seems to have lost a yard of pace this year. Not sure if he was carrying an injury but what really annoyed me about Thompson was that on more than one occasion he shirked a contest. Ducked his head and went up with one fist and not even looking at the ball. Poor example from a senior. Maybe harsh but in a grand final you need to go when you have to and I reckon he wouldn't.

LMac needs to up the ante and needs to burst the door down.

Turner needs to get more of the ball and kick goals. I think he will be a top player but until he can do more than lay tackles then he plays at Werribee

Gibson. One tagger is enough

Lastly, I have rekindled my desire for Petrie to CHB because I still believe it's the only way we could win a flag. Seeing True North team reminded me how much better balanced we look as a team. Watching a leaner and fitter Petrie begs the question, is he being groomed for another role?

 

[Jesslc]

Hansen Tarrant. Wright
JMac. Petrie. Atley
Wells Cunnington. Higgins
Garner. Waite. Anderson
Zeibell. Brown. LT

Goldy. Swallow. Dumont

Harvey, Jacobs. Dal. Hibberd

Notable outs

McKenzie - Needs more tricks apart from his kicking. Showed signs late last year with his attack on the ball and man so I would be grooming him for a high half forward line and add goal kicking to his game.

Firitto - love him but I feel we need a change in the backline so for Petrie to play CHB means Spud had to make way.

Thompson - I hear the howls of protestation from here but I don't rate Hunter's last two years and he seems to have lost a yard of pace this year. Not sure if he was carrying an injury but what really annoyed me about Thompson was that on more than one occasion he shirked a contest. Ducked his head and went up with one fist and not even looking at the ball. Poor example from a senior. Maybe harsh but in a grand final you need to go when you have to and I reckon he wouldn't.

LMac needs to up the ante and needs to burst the door down.

Turner needs to get more of the ball and kick goals. I think he will be a top player but until he can do more than lay tackles then he plays at Werribee

Gibson. One tagger is enough

Lastly, I have rekindled my desire for Petrie to CHB because I still believe it's the only way we could win a flag. Seeing True North team reminded me how much better balanced we look as a team. Watching a leaner and fitter Petrie begs the question, is he being groomed for another role?

This is a shocker...

 

[Bigeasy]

This is a shocker...

So is your reply. Got anything to put forward?

 

[Jesslc]

So is your reply. Got anything to put forward?

For starters, probably wouldnt switch Petrie to a position hes only played maybe 12 minutes of in his nearly, 300 game career. Why only 1 tagger? I could name you 17 teams apart from north that have two players that need to be nullified...

Just for starters....

Dont get me started on dropping our AA full back...

 

[Black2Blue]

Going on where they left off in this years' finals:

B: Wright Tarrant Thompson
HB: Atley Hansen JMac
C: Wells Cunners NDS
HF: Higgins Petrie Harvey
F: Thomas Waite Brown
R: Goldy JZ Spitta
Inter: Anderson Jacobs Gibson Firrito

But those who I would love to see push into the side on the back of pre-season games and training form (not injuries) are Garner, Daw, Wood, and one of the speed kids. Buggered if I know who they would push out. Perhaps Gibbo and Spud.

 

[Bigeasy]

For starters, probably wouldnt switch Petrie to a position hes only played maybe 12 minutes of in his nearly, 300 game career. Why only 1 tagger? I could name you 17 teams apart from north that have two players that need to be nullified...

Just for starters....

Dont get me started on dropping our AA full back...

Petrie has played far more games at CHB than you recall and probably played his best football there. And go a name others top 8 transcript play two taggers?

And all aa full back has been no good the last two years and is a liability with his weak efforts or do you just ignore that or maybe you don't notice?

 

[Jesslc]

Petrie has played far more games at CHB than you recall and probably played his best football there. And go a name others top 8 transcript play two taggers?

And all aa full back has been no good the last two years and is a liability with his weak efforts or do you just ignore that or maybe you don't notice?

- Petrie plays his best football at CHB
- Scott Thompson isnt best 22
- if other teams dont do it, then we cant.

Lol. What grade are you in?

 

[Joshen]

I do think we need to move on from having the overly cumbersome mix of Hansen, Thompson, Tarrant and Firrito (I am aware Taz is pretty athletic).

Having all four of them in there is too tall and from purely a balance perspective we looked far more effective in the Sydney final.

Taz is the only lock for mine as the sole true KPD.

 

[True North]

Hansen Tarrant. Wright
JMac. Petrie. Atley
Wells Cunnington. Higgins
Garner. Waite. Anderson
Zeibell. Brown. LT

Goldy. Swallow. Dumont

Harvey, Jacobs. Dal. Hibberd

Notable outs

McKenzie - Needs more tricks apart from his kicking. Showed signs late last year with his attack on the ball and man so I would be grooming him for a high half forward line and add goal kicking to his game.

Firitto - love him but I feel we need a change in the backline so for Petrie to play CHB means Spud had to make way.

Thompson - I hear the howls of protestation from here but I don't rate Hunter's last two years and he seems to have lost a yard of pace this year. Not sure if he was carrying an injury but what really annoyed me about Thompson was that on more than one occasion he shirked a contest. Ducked his head and went up with one fist and not even looking at the ball. Poor example from a senior. Maybe harsh but in a grand final you need to go when you have to and I reckon he wouldn't.

LMac needs to up the ante and needs to burst the door down.

Turner needs to get more of the ball and kick goals. I think he will be a top player but until he can do more than lay tackles then he plays at Werribee

Gibson. One tagger is enough

Lastly, I have rekindled my desire for Petrie to CHB because I still believe it's the only way we could win a flag. Seeing True North team reminded me how much better balanced we look as a team. Watching a leaner and fitter Petrie begs the question, is he being groomed for another role?

Jacobs as the inside tag and Gibson as the outside tag worked brilliantly. 2nd and 3rd picked for me, Goldy obviously 1st picked.

We are going to win with depth. So negating the oppositions best couple should hopefully leave our depth better than everyone elses.

I reckon Thompson is ahead of Lachy and would love to see Petrie play Lachy's spare role. He did it for 5 minutes this year and won us a match.

Garner is my new fav and seeing him do a full preseason fills me with hope for his 2016.

This is all moot if nobody can replace Petrie up forward. If Wood, Black, Daw and our younger talls all suck then Drew plays forward.

 

[Bigeasy]

- Petrie plays his best football at CHB
- Scott Thompson isnt best 22
- if other teams dont do it, then we cant.

Lol. What grade are you in?

Grade 45, you?

 

[Winter]

How is Anderson in everyone's team already?

Happy to see how he gets on in NAB Cup but the guy is behind Thomas, Garner and Turner at this stage.

 

[tiltraise]

How is Anderson in everyone's team already?

Happy to see how he gets on in NAB Cup but the guy is behind Thomas, Garner and Turner at this stage.

I dont see him competing for the small fwd roll more the high half fwd/mid rotations.