harry000
Brownlow Medallist
How good does it feel not having to put "Draft Pick 1" on the bench in an attempt to create a best 22.
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I don't think he's a smart enough footballer to play forward personally, he's more straight line than agile.
Interesting. You've solved the OMac v Frost argument by putting neither of them in your starting 22. You're asking Lever and Hibberd to play taller?B: Jetta - May - Hibberd
HB: Salem - Lever - Fritsch
C: Harmes - Brayshaw - vandenBerg
HF: Petracca - T McDonald - Nibbler
F: Spargo - Weideman - Melksham
R: Gawn - Oliver - Viney
I: Jones - KK - Preuss - Lewis
E: O Mac - Hannan - Hunt - Garlett
That’s the gist of it.Interesting. You've solved the OMac v Frost argument by putting neither of them in your starting 22. You're asking Lever and Hibberd to play taller?
Just a waste of Lever imo. May will take the best forward, but the best teams have more than one option, and Lever is flawed as a one-on-one defender.That’s the gist of it.
I concede that my 22 most likely won’t come to fruition. I haven’t given up on either O Mac or Frost but went for the 22 that I feel has the most upside.
I don’t doubt that I’m in the minority. My feeling is that Gawn and Fritsch can drop in the hole to intercept mark when required. Ideally we’re smacking other teams through the midfield enough to blunt opposition attacks. The sweet spot we were in from Round 6 through 11 and round 22 to the semi we only had two key defenders in O Mac & Lever and then O Mac and Frost. I don’t accept the unequivocal notion that Lever is a poor one on one defender. I accept the 6-6-6 and tactics could change structures and tactics but how many other teams play with 3 key defenders or players 193+?Just a waste of Lever imo. May will take the best forward, but the best teams have more than one option, and Lever is flawed as a one-on-one defender.
Take a look at the legitimate tall forwards in each team’s likely best 22:
West Coast: Kennedy, Darling, Vardy
Collingwood: Cox, Mihocek
Richmond: Riewoldt, Lynch
GWS: Cameron, Patton, Himmelberg
Geelong: Hawkins, Ratugolea
Sydney: Franklin, Reid, McCartin
Hawthorn: Roughead, Gunston, Schoenmakers
Essendon: Daniher, McKernan
North: Brown, Wood
Port: Dixon, Lycett, Westhoff
Adelaide: Walker, Jenkins, Fogarty
Western Bulldogs: Schache, Boyd
Fremantle: Hogan, Lobb, Taberner
Brisbane: Hipwood, McInerney, McStay
St Kilda: McCartin, Bruce, Membrey
Carlton: McKay, Curnow, McGovern
Gold Coast: Day, Wright
Not saying that these are all good players by any stretch, but from my count, that’s nearly two-thirds of teams in the league playing three bigs up front, meaning for those games we’ll be matching them up with May (193 cm, 102 kg), Lever (195 cm, 92 kg) and Hibberd (186 cm, 93 kg). Far too small I think, and it takes our two best loose/rebounding players away from their best role.
Think Oscar (196 cm, 100 kg) plays and takes the second best tall/resting ruck. Despite his form towards the end of the year, I believe Frost will be the odd man out (although he’ll play early in the year while Lever gets up to speed).
Think you’ve forgotten about a lot of players from each team. Josh Walker at the Lions, Scharenberg at the Pies, Plowman/Jones at the Blues, Clurey is best 18 at the Power. Taylor is best 22 for the Giants, if he wasn’t injured he probably would’ve played against Collingwood. Probably at least half of the teams play with 3 tall defenders.I don’t doubt that I’m in the minority. My feeling is that Gawn and Fritsch can drop in the hole to intercept mark when required. Ideally we’re smacking other teams through the midfield enough to blunt opposition attacks. The sweet spot we were in from Round 6 through 11 and round 22 to the semi we only had two key defenders in O Mac & Lever and then O Mac and Frost. I don’t accept the unequivocal notion that Lever is a poor one on one defender. I accept the 6-6-6 and tactics could change structures and tactics but how many other teams play with 3 key defenders or players 193+?
Adelaide have Talia and usually one of Keath/Hartigan.
Brisbane have Andrews and Gardiner (McStay sometimes but tends to swing forward)
Carlton have Marchbank and Weitering
Collingwood have Dunn/Goldsack and maybe Moore
Essendon - Hurley, Francis and Hooker (when he’s not playing forward)
Fremantle - Pearce, Hamling (Johnson retired, maybe Logue will play)
Geelong - Taylor, Henderson, Blicavs, Henry (they were way too cumbersome down back)
Gold Coast - Thompson (previously May, probably Hombsch now)
GWS - Haynes, Davis (occasionally one of Tomlinson, Corr, Finlayson or Taylor)
Hawthorn - Frawley, Stratton
North - Thompson, Tarrant
Port - Jonas, Howard (occasionally Clurey)
Richmond - Grimes, Astbury & Rance
St Kilda - Carlisle, Brown
Sydney - Allir, Grundy & Rampe
West Coast - Barrass, McGovern (Schofield played the GF because Sheppard was injured)
Western Bulldogs - Morris, Trengove/Naughton
The beauty of May’s recruitment is we can either play with 2 or 3 talls down back. Lever’s injury means O Mac & Frost will have an audition period to see if they can cut it. I expect Oscar will be there but it’s not my preference at this stage.
Whilst I’d be playing OMac, at the start of last year our KPD’ers were Lever and OMac so it’s highly probable that’s how well start.B: Jetta - May - Hibberd
HB: Salem - Lever - Fritsch
C: Harmes - Brayshaw - vandenBerg
HF: Petracca - T McDonald - Nibbler
F: Spargo - Weideman - Melksham
R: Gawn - Oliver - Viney
I: Jones - KK - Preuss - Lewis
E: O Mac - Hannan - Hunt - Garlett
Whilst I’d be playing OMac, at the start of last year our KPD’ers were Lever and OMac so it’s highly probable that’s how well start.B: Jetta - May - Hibberd
HB: Salem - Lever - Fritsch
C: Harmes - Brayshaw - vandenBerg
HF: Petracca - T McDonald - Nibbler
F: Spargo - Weideman - Melksham
R: Gawn - Oliver - Viney
I: Jones - KK - Preuss - Lewis
E: O Mac - Hannan - Hunt - Garlett
Walker and Jones are probably oversights, however I don’t think they are best 22 in 2019. Scharenberg and Plowman are tall but I wouldn’t call them KPD, similar to T Langdon and Howe. Clurey and Taylor I’d mentioned anyway. Hardly a lot of players by any measure.Think you’ve forgotten about a lot of players from each team. Josh Walker at the Lions, Scharenberg at the Pies, Plowman/Jones at the Blues, Clurey is best 18 at the Power. Taylor is best 22 for the Giants, if he wasn’t injured he probably would’ve played against Collingwood. Probably at least half of the teams play with 3 tall defenders.
Except we are paying Lever 800K a year. Surely we are not paying him that kind of money to be playing as an intercept defender alone. I dont really see his value making him one of the highest paid players in our team unless he can also hold down a key position forward and develop as our centre half back of the future.Brisbane just brought in Adams as well. Lever would be 100x better at that intercepting role than Fritsch, Frost or Oscar, and Oscar is better at taking a man than Lever. Makes sense to me.
Except we are paying Lever 800K a year. Surely we are not paying him that kind of money to be playing as an intercept defender alone. I dont really see his value making him one of the highest paid players in our team unless he can also hold down a key position forward and develop as our centre half back of the future.
Except we are paying Lever 800K a year. Surely we are not paying him that kind of money to be playing as an intercept defender alone. I dont really see his value making him one of the highest paid players in our team unless he can also hold down a key position forward and develop as our centre half back of the future.
FB: Hibberd May JettaHow good does it feel not having to put "Draft Pick 1" on the bench in an attempt to create a best 22.