Prediction Best 22 for Round 1, 2023

[Keys]

I totally agree with Sumich WCE held onto way to many older guys. Should have been another 5 delistings as a minimum

Which 5?

Replaced with who?

If contracted, how would you manage the salary cap?

 

[WA footy mad]

sheed, gaff, shuey, hurn, nat, cripps, mcgovern, take your pick

 

[Cursedsword02]

Nah WCE since inception, just dont like the path they are taking like sumich

Riddle me this, so-called "supporter since inception".

Did Sumich's strategy work for St Kilda?

Did it work for North Melbourne?

Did it work for Essendon?

Do you think it'll work for Hawthorn next year?

If your answer is yes, then you're somehow a greater fool than Sumich and you have no business supporting any club in the AFL.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

We had to retain the players - what, were we going to replace them with 4 extra late picks and rookies?

However, they should be played in less central roles or phased out throughout the season. Will this happen? I have major doubts.

 

[Keys]

sheed, gaff, shuey, hurn, nat, cripps, mcgovern, take your pick

Four of those had contracts for 2023 so we would have had to pay them out

McGovern was leading our B&F before his season ending injury

There’d be no experienced ruck depth behind Naitanui

Cripps was our best performed small forward last year and is training as well as anyone at the club

We used the 2nd last pick in the draft with multiple clubs passing in picks despite having list spots available as they weren’t happy with the players still left. That’s who you’d be replacing those veterans with

They wouldn’t help in 2023 and odds are people like you would be putting them on the delist pile in a year or two

We’ve seen clubs slash and burn their lists of experienced players, usually without succes

 

[bh90210fan]

sheed, gaff, shuey, hurn, nat, cripps, mcgovern, take your pick

Sheed is only 27

is that you Kaiser?

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

 

[Kegs15]

Really hope LEdwards comes good - he really stood up for us in that Richmond game in 2021, was watching the highlights the other day and even the commentators were getting around him saying they couldn't believe Adelaide didn't take him. Bit worried he's been struck with injury at the unfortunate 'prove yourself' period of his career and won't get a fair run at it - I want to see him play a good 6-7+ games of AFL or 15-17+ games of WAFL in a row either this season or next and have a chance to show that he's up to it or not with a sound body.

Regarding cutting veterans, it's exactly how others have said, got to do it in waves rather than annihilate your list for the sake of loading up on the dregs of the draft. I actually disagree with Suma in the sense that I wouldn't be upset if we won under 10 games next year as long as we see some development/clarity of roles from the younger players, the veterans help them develop and we go in with another good draft hand next year, moving up the ladder in 2024 and beyond.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Backs: Barrass, McGovern, Yeo, Hurn, Cole, Duggan, Hunt
Mids: Kelly, Sheed, Shuey, O’Neill, Gaff and Hough as the wings
Rucks: NicNat, Williams
Forwards: Darling, Allen, Waterman, Ryan, Cripps, Jones, Culley (rotating through mids)

Some question marks over some players there. Chesser, Ginbey and Hewett could pressure O’Neill and Culley for midfield spots with good preseasons. Jones goes forward because we’re light on there and there’s a squeeze for backline spots. If Yeo moves back to the middle that could change.

The reserves (WAFL side)
B: Bazzo, Edwards, Witherden
HB: Foley, Rotham, SPS
C: Chesser, Ginbey, Hewett
HF: Burgiel, Jamieson, West
F: Petruccelle, Williams, Long
R: Barnett, Clark, Edwards
I: Winder, Trew, Dewar, Baker

 

[NSLK]

That ressies side beats our league side most weeks in 2022

 

[WCE_phil]

Here's the thing. If your group of 22-26 year olds is s**t, contracted or not you can't just dump the older players even if you have picks to replace them with.

The club actively forced 2 players out of the club this year. One who had hit a contract trigger and one who was contracted.

Lastly I think people need to understand something else. It is even more difficult now for interstate sides to win the premiership than ever before. There's 2 extra sides in the competition, the competition is at the height of competitiveness where 1-2% can be the difference between winning and losing and due to the combination of the extra sides plus academies and compensation picks every club realistically needs an extra year near the bottom than they did prior to 2012 to rebuild to secure the same amount of talent.

Round 3, pick 1 used to be pick 33. That's around the point in most drafts where it really does become lucky dip. Round 3 pick 1 now is normally anywhere from 40-43 onwards. When WCE speaks about top 30 picks it's because thats where the club sees the cutoff in genuinely draftable talent with at least 1 elite trait is most years numbers wise.

So the club looks for as many top 30 or as close to it picks as possible.

 

[bzparkes]

Backs: Barrass, McGovern, Yeo, Hurn, Cole, Duggan, Hunt
Mids: Kelly, Sheed, Shuey, O’Neill, Gaff and Hough as the wings
Rucks: NicNat, Williams
Forwards: Darling, Allen, Waterman, Ryan, Cripps, Jones, Culley (rotating through mids)

Some question marks over some players there. Chesser, Ginbey and Hewett could pressure O’Neill and Culley for midfield spots with good preseasons. Jones goes forward because we’re light on there and there’s a squeeze for backline spots. If Yeo moves back to the middle that could change.

The reserves (WAFL side)
B: Bazzo, Edwards, Witherden
HB: Foley, Rotham, SPS
C: Chesser, Ginbey, Hewett
HF: Burgiel, Jamieson, West
F: Petruccelle, Williams, Long
R: Barnett, Clark, Edwards
I: Winder, Trew, Dewar, Baker

Imagine leaving out the captain of the team, as well as the captain of clunge?

Seriously though, imagine having a mostly fit team and actually being able to field a WAFL side?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Imagine leaving out the captain of the team, as well as the captain of clunge?

Didn’t include them for this exercise, but in real life there’ll be the tactical sub and probably an emergency held over, so there’s two WAFL spots for Nelson and Waterman.

 

[Flayin_Rayn17]

fb: hurn mcgovern cole
hb: yeo barrass duggan
c: gaff kelly hunt
hf: shuey allen cripps
ff: ryan darling petch
r: natanui sheed culley
i/c: hough o'neill williams jones


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[Winky]

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Backs: Barrass, McGovern, Yeo, Hurn, Cole, Duggan, Hunt
Mids: Kelly, Sheed, Shuey, O’Neill, Gaff and Hough as the wings
Rucks: NicNat, Williams
Forwards: Darling, Allen, Waterman, Ryan, Cripps, Jones, Culley (rotating through mids)

Some question marks over some players there. Chesser, Ginbey and Hewett could pressure O’Neill and Culley for midfield spots with good preseasons. Jones goes forward because we’re light on there and there’s a squeeze for backline spots. If Yeo moves back to the middle that could change.

The reserves (WAFL side)
B: Bazzo, Edwards, Witherden
HB: Foley, Rotham, SPS
C: Chesser, Ginbey, Hewett
HF: Burgiel, Jamieson, West
F: Petruccelle, Williams, Long
R: Barnett, Clark, Edwards
I: Winder, Trew, Dewar, Baker

Gaff doesn’t appear to add much in terms of help for young players. His main asset is running forward for short kicks and handballs and his disposals are not always damaging. I’d rather see someone else on the wing unless he improved considerably on last years form

 

[WA footy mad]

Hough Barrass Bazzo
Yeo Mcgovern Cole
Hunt Kelly Cheeser
Shuey Allan Burgiel
Gibney Darling Ryan
Natanui Culley Hewett
Cripps Barnett Edwards Clark

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Hough Barrass Bazzo
Yeo Mcgovern Cole
Hunt Kelly Cheeser
Shuey Allan Burgiel
Gibney Darling Ryan
Natanui Culley Hewett
Cripps Barnett Edwards Clark

Couldn’t find room for Long, Dewar or Baker in your best 22?

Do you think five debutants is enough?

 

[WA footy mad]

Thanks Miguel Sanchez you are correct ill find room for them in round 2​

 

[ArdentEagle]

Gibney back in the day made me Cheeser too.

 

[Mikevk123]

B Yeo Barrass Bazzo
HB Duggan McGovern Hunt
C Hough Sheed Gaff
HF Petrucclle Allen Ryan
F Waterman Darling Cripps
FOLL Naitanui Culley Kelly
I/C- B.Williams, Shuey, Hewett, Chesser
Sub- O’Neil

 

[ArdentEagle]

Team revision 1.3 - Why not!







*Duggan to start WAFL unless burns up the track pre-season.

*Gaff start WAFL

* No XON as I wanted the extra versatility on the bench - Sheed or XON for me with this team Sheed gets the nod.

Any of the young guys who burn up the track pre-season, I want to see given a very early crack.


This team is skilled, fast and versatile and pretty big

 

[JDWCE]

B Yeo Barrass Bazzo
HB Duggan McGovern Hunt
C Hough Sheed Gaff
HF Petrucclle Allen Ryan
F Waterman Darling Cripps
FOLL Naitanui Culley Kelly
I/C- B.Williams, Shuey, Hewett, Chesser
Sub- O’Neil

Cole has to be in the side. Only bloke who can shut down smalls

 

[Obeanie1]

G

Gaff doesn’t appear to add much in terms of help for young players. His main asset is running forward for short kicks and handballs and his disposals are not always damaging. I’d rather see someone else on the wing unless he improved considerably on last years form

We were playing a slow transition game plan then. Switch sides, retain posession etc.

I expect that our new quicker plan of running and handballing through the lines he can play a role. Overlap gut running to provide a 1 - 2 handball for a younger faster mid looking to get it back. Not as an inside mid either.

Gaff looks lighter, at his age I hope he is dropping kgs to help with his running and general wear and tear. Become that well positioned link man on the outside of a stoppage who will link up with a runner.

 

[WCE_phil]

FB Hough Barrass Hurn
HB Yeo Mcgovern Hunt
C Gaff Culley Sheed
HF Cripps Allen Jones
FF Ryan Darling Williams
R Nicnat Shuey Kelly
I Duggan Chesser O'Niell Petrucelle

Now this is not who I would pick or where I would pick them. It's just what I see happening

 

[Kegs15]

Team revision 1.3 - Why not!




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*Duggan to start WAFL unless burns up the track pre-season.

*Gaff start WAFL

* No XON as I wanted the extra versatility on the bench - Sheed or XON for me with this team Sheed gets the nod.

Any of the young guys who burn up the track pre-season, I want to see given a very early crack.


This team is skilled, fast and versatile and pretty big

Really like this team - not that I think they'll actually leave Gaff or Duggan out round 1 but I'd love if this was the case - good balance and sets a good selection standard.

Really highlights how much we need a specialist crumbing forward with Willie gone. We've got some good forwards who happen to be small but none of them are really natural crumbers first and foremost. Not heaps in reserve either.